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How the Movies Show the 'Net
Topic by: underdog
Posted: February 29, 2004 - 1:54 PM PST
Last Reply: June 2, 2004 - 2:49 PM PDT

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author topic: How the Movies Show the 'Net
underdog
post #1  on February 29, 2004 - 1:54 PM PST  
Howdy folks,

I'm putting together a presentation/project for a course on digital technology -- the subject of my project is the way movies have depicted internet usage. I've been first collecting films that should be included in any such discussion and then going into more depth about each one. Many of these films have a sort of dystopian view of the 'net and computers, but others show them in more realistic or mainstream fashion.

What I'm looking for (without having people write the paper for me ;-) ) is:

a) more film recommendations
and
b) examples of "only in the movies" 'net/web behavior, interfaces, and so on.


Films I have so far: (sorry for not linking these, I'm in a bit of a hurry)
THE NET
WAR GAMES
YOU'VE GOT MAIL
ON_LINE
MATRIX
FEAR DOTCOM
THOMAS IN LOVE
TERMINATOR (i think?)

Examples of cliched or fake behavior:
Showing a character connecting to the web using a mock DOS-like web interface.
Building an animated web page in a matter of seconds

etc

If you can think of any other examples, post 'em here!

Eventually I'll make a web page out of all this.

Thanks!

logging off,
C

underdog
post #2  on February 29, 2004 - 2:07 PM PST  
Ooo, I forgot to add a couple more to the initial list:

in the "DUMB MOVIES ABOUT SMART HACKERS" category, or is it vice versa? :

Swordfish

Hackers

Other hacking movies?
hamano
post #3  on February 29, 2004 - 6:24 PM PST  
Are you staying away from anime titles? Serial Experiments Lain had a lot of "interface" moments, but degenerated into the cords and cables turn into tentacles finale. How can cords and cables move like tentacles, I ask you?
hamano
post #4  on February 29, 2004 - 6:28 PM PST  
AMicone's List

undiedog, someday you'll be able to write a comedy-romance screenplay about a college TA who gets his work done by going on-line to get ideas from chat-room members all over the world...
hamano
post #5  on February 29, 2004 - 6:32 PM PST  
Hey, remember River Phoenix in Sneakers? What a waste...dying so young....
hamano
post #6  on February 29, 2004 - 6:37 PM PST  
> On February 29, 2004 - 2:07 PM PST underdog wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> "DUMB MOVIES ABOUT SMART HACKERS" category, or is it vice versa? :
> ---------------------------------

Remember Jurassic Park with that really wimpy annoying girl? "This is UNIX... I can do this!" and she figures out how to operate the park security system from a terminal?
rmarkd
post #7  on February 29, 2004 - 9:43 PM PST  
Howdy dog,

How 'bout
andromedia
Hackers
Avalon
Ghost in the Shell
Tron?

Have they made a movie out of Ender's Game yet?

-Mark



> On February 29, 2004 - 1:54 PM PST underdog wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Howdy folks,
>
> I'm putting together a presentation/project for a course on digital technology -- the subject of my project is the way movies have depicted internet usage. I've been first collecting films that should be included in any such discussion and then going into more depth about each one. Many of these films have a sort of dystopian view of the 'net and computers, but others show them in more realistic or mainstream fashion.
>
> What I'm looking for (without having people write the paper for me ;-) ) is:
>
> a) more film recommendations
> and
> b) examples of "only in the movies" 'net/web behavior, interfaces, and so on.
>
>
> Films I have so far: (sorry for not linking these, I'm in a bit of a hurry)
> THE NET
> WAR GAMES
> YOU'VE GOT MAIL
> ON_LINE
> MATRIX
> FEAR DOTCOM
> THOMAS IN LOVE
> TERMINATOR (i think?)
>
> Examples of cliched or fake behavior:
> Showing a character connecting to the web using a mock DOS-like web interface.
> Building an animated web page in a matter of seconds
>
> etc
>
> If you can think of any other examples, post 'em here!
>
> Eventually I'll make a web page out of all this.
>
> Thanks!
>
> logging off,
> C
>
>
> ---------------------------------

underdog
post #8  on February 29, 2004 - 10:06 PM PST  
> On February 29, 2004 - 6:28 PM PST hamano wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> AMicone's List
>
> undiedog, someday you'll be able to write a comedy-romance screenplay about a college TA who gets his work done by going on-line to get ideas from chat-room members all over the world...
> ---------------------------------

Ah, no one would pay to see such dreck. ;-) Actually, this is for a class in my master's program, as a student, not a TA, thus my work can be more slovenly. Hee.

Btw, as much as I admire and dig anime, I decided to just focus on feature live-action films for this assignment, but I may still give mention to anime by way of comparison. (Could write a whole book on that topic!)

thanks
underdog
post #9  on February 29, 2004 - 10:09 PM PST  
Ooh yeah, that Jurassic Park moment is perfect!!


> On February 29, 2004 - 9:43 PM PST rmarkd wrote:
> ---------------------------------

And all good suggestions, RMarkD. I wondered about Tron -- wasn't that more video game-ish, and not about internet (since it was actually before that was a real known entity to most people)... Hmm, may have to see that again.

Also thought of another one to write about, even though it's a terrible movie: Strangland (with Dee Snider). A maniac who lures (very stupid) teenage girls via internet chat rooms. Ugh.
hamano
post #10  on February 29, 2004 - 10:58 PM PST  
> On February 29, 2004 - 10:09 PM PST underdog wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> And all good suggestions, RMarkD. I wondered about Tron -- wasn't that more video game-ish, and not about internet
> ---------------------------------

Yeah, that was the reason I didn't mention the latest Spy Kids movie, the 3D one with Stallone. Cyber, but game, not internet.

I know you're staying away from anime, but Ed's interfaces in Cowboy Bebop were VERY interesting!
dwhudson
post #11  on March 1, 2004 - 1:14 AM PST  
Way back in GC's salad days, some dang fool blathered on for a couple pages on a topic that may be somewhat related. He also used to hide opening paragraphs as front-page blurbs, which seemed smart at the time, but of course, he realized later that that only meant those paragraphs would disappear later. Anyway:

==

Of the zillion different effects movies can have on you, one of them is the jolt that comes with being reminded of a specific historical moment you'd not only all but forgotten but which also suddenly seems very, very far away. The jolt is all the more severe if that moment, mathematically at least, hasn't really been gone all that long. There was that year, for example, Hollywood decided we were afraid of the Internet. And if we weren't, that we ought to be...

Becoming the Other.

==
hamano
post #12  on March 1, 2004 - 4:05 AM PST  
June 13, 2002?!? By god, underdog, your project was already finished for you 2 years ago! Or should we call you copycat from now on rather than underdog?
^_^
dh22
post #13  on March 1, 2004 - 5:40 AM PST  
You've Got Mail
Jumpin Jack Flash (one of the first)
artifex
post #14  on March 1, 2004 - 8:26 AM PST  
I have to think that Hackers was tongue in cheek about the thing... There were too many in-references, I think, to say that the writers really had no idea what they were talking about. Also, I think they took a cool approach to displaying things in a way that non-geeks could understand. How effective is showing text screens of a worm execution, to someone who doesn't know what one might even look like?

The whole hackers-of-the-world climax is silly, and coupled with the soundtrack, it's just cool. :)
Brockton
post #15  on March 1, 2004 - 9:17 AM PST  
My memory is kind of fuzzy about this, but the first Mission Impossible movie had an incredibly inept portrayal of the UseNet.
underdog
post #16  on March 1, 2004 - 9:48 AM PST  
> On March 1, 2004 - 1:14 AM PST dwhudson wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Way back in GC's salad days, some dang fool blathered on for a couple pages on a topic that may be somewhat related. He also used to hide opening paragraphs as front-page blurbs, which seemed smart at the time, but of course, he realized later that that only meant those paragraphs would disappear later. Anyway:

> Becoming the Other.


Hah! Thanks for the reminder about that David! I totally forgot about it. A fine piece it was, too, you're too modest. Well, let's see.... hmmm... erase the byline, replace with my name, change the date.... voila! I'm done. I'm kidding (Hamano) ! Seriously, though, that will be worth referencing and footnoting. I'd forgotten about Copycat. And Virtuosity's on my list though I won't talk much about it.

All fine suggestions, everyone.

Mission Impossible 1, yes, good, I remember chuckling at that Usenet bit.

Thanks!

C


> ==
> ---------------------------------

sinisterguffaw
post #17  on March 1, 2004 - 10:01 AM PST  
did Antitrust have any net stuff? I didn't see it. It just popped into my head.

lizzoqops
post #18  on March 1, 2004 - 12:59 PM PST  
I don't know if you want to include tv shows, but X-Files used to do this a lot. The coolest effect (but still ridiculous) was Scully sitting in front of her computer late at night, and the screen would be reflected on her glasses.

And what about that virus attack in "Independence Day"?

Liz

Tuna
post #19  on March 1, 2004 - 2:37 PM PST  
Suicide Circle gave a pretty funny representation of the online community by using ONE message board as the location of information and rumor exchanges regarding mass suicides..either that I completely forgot the movie.
hamano
post #20  on March 1, 2004 - 2:57 PM PST  
All About Lily Chou Chou also explores characters who lead double lives, actual and virtual. The virtual world is a refuge and sanctuary for like minded youngsters, the real world is violent and scary.
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