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Texas Hold 'Em instructional titles?
Topic by: artifex
Posted: September 20, 2004 - 10:25 PM PDT
Last Reply: October 13, 2004 - 1:39 PM PDT

author topic: Texas Hold 'Em instructional titles?
artifex
post #1  on September 20, 2004 - 10:25 PM PDT  
Anyone have suggestions as to some good Texas Hold 'Em instructional videos or shows on tv?
dh22
post #2  on September 21, 2004 - 7:01 AM PDT  
Well I can say the game itself is rather easy to play. You can watch WSOP which has been on ESPN the past week, or even celebrity poker. The only thing you need to figure out are the betting rules. If you want to learn more, like reading players, and so forth, you can probably watch any poker video for that.

Howard Lederer has a DVD out. He is very analytical in style, so he probably tries to teach a lot of numbers.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0002E5L5I/qid=1095773969/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/102-5713212-3005737?v=glance&s=dvd

Phil Hellmuth also has a DVD coming out, and he is a very good player, but he is a total dick. I wouldn't want to give him any money.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0002JP5FE/ref=pd_ecc_rvi_f/102-5713212-3005737

There is also computer software out there that you may want to try.
dh22
post #3  on September 21, 2004 - 7:09 AM PDT  
People seem to like this one. I may buy it myself

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0002719LK/qid=1095775499/br=1-1/ref=br_lf_vg_1//102-5713212-3005737?v=glance&s=videogames&n=11006281
Cinenaut
post #4  on September 21, 2004 - 9:00 AM PDT  
It's amazing how popular poker (and Texas Hold'em in particular) has become. I'd been playing poker with buddies in the 1990s, but we played all kinds of crazy games like Baseball, Anaconda and Do Ya. It was a $20 buy-in. Now it's like everybody and their mother is playing poker.
kohnfused1
post #5  on September 21, 2004 - 10:00 AM PDT  
> On September 21, 2004 - 9:00 AM PDT Cinenaut wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> It's amazing how popular poker (and Texas Hold'em in particular) has become. I'd been playing poker with buddies in the 1990s, but we played all kinds of crazy games like Baseball, Anaconda and Do Ya. It was a $20 buy-in. Now it's like everybody and their mother is playing poker.
> ---------------------------------

I like playing poker, with the ladies. Suffice it to say, a whollata pokering was going on. ;P
dh22
post #6  on September 21, 2004 - 12:41 PM PDT  
I think it has become so popular because it is kinda like a sport, but you don't have to be athletic, or have hand-to-eye coordination. It's just one step below golf.
Cinenaut
post #7  on September 21, 2004 - 2:43 PM PDT  
> On September 21, 2004 - 12:41 PM PDT dh22 wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> I think it has become so popular because it is kinda like a sport, but you don't have to be athletic, or have hand-to-eye coordination. It's just one step below golf.
> ---------------------------------

That's what James McManus says in his book Positively Fifth Street. Poker is like a sport. The top poker players all have that sports-like competitive streak and some of them are former athletes.

Positively Fifth Street is a great read.
dpowers
post #8  on September 21, 2004 - 11:18 PM PDT  
> It's just one step below golf.

instead of spoiling a good walk, it spoils a good sit down.

hold 'em was never popular at games i've played because it takes a few more people to be worth playing - i mean, so that more than one player has a hand - at least we thought so. however we liked games like it. we played four on the floor a lot, where everybody holds 4 and there's a pool of 4 on the table. like most of the games at that table we played it high-low.

some military buddies have of course played thousands of hands of 2-card, 3-card poker. fast games, quick decisions.
artifex
post #9  on September 22, 2004 - 1:09 AM PDT  
Great suggestions. I'm watching some of the poker competitions on my Replay (or will, once they finish transferring), and I've also heard some good things about the books recommended, especially the Positively Fifth Street. I'm also reading a bit of this blog, now.
Who's to blame for my sudden interest? Wil Wheaton. Just kidding. I enjoy his commentary on his games, but it wasn't until I was invited to sit in on a friend's game that I realized that it's become almost a necessity to get along with the more social of geeks I know.
kohnfused1
post #10  on September 22, 2004 - 9:11 AM PDT  
> On September 22, 2004 - 1:09 AM PDT artifex wrote:

> Who's to blame for my sudden interest? Wil Wheaton. Just kidding. I enjoy his commentary on his games, but it wasn't until I was invited to sit in on a friend's game that I realized that it's become almost a necessity to get along with the more social of geeks I know.
> ---------------------------------

Wow! It's been a while since I've heard of that name. So, that's where he ended up, huh? What happened to his mother, Gates McFadden? Grrr!
KPman1
post #11  on September 27, 2004 - 11:36 PM PDT  
Slightly off topic: What's the best computer program for learning hold em strategy?
dh22
post #12  on September 28, 2004 - 6:30 AM PDT  
> On September 27, 2004 - 11:36 PM PDT KPman1 wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Slightly off topic: What's the best computer program for learning hold em strategy?
> ---------------------------------

That computer program I posted from Amazon looks to be pretty good. In fact, I did buy it. I haven't gotten it yet, but when I do I'll try to remember to post something here.
dh22
post #13  on October 3, 2004 - 10:30 AM PDT  
I've been playing the game for a couple days now. Its pretty decent. It has a lot of different options that help in learning (cheat options.) There are also different style tournaments you can play. You can also keep track of all the money you have won and lost, and the place you came in, so you can track how you are doing
toddfrye
post #14  on October 13, 2004 - 1:39 PM PDT  
I suggest going to Partypoker, setting up an account, and playing in the 'fake money' sections. You can pretend it's real money and make your decisions accordingly. Then, when you're ready, you can move up to the Real Money tables.

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