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"Tully" -likes anyone?
Topic by: cruzer
Posted: October 8, 2004 - 1:52 PM PDT
Last Reply: October 22, 2004 - 1:23 AM PDT

author topic: "Tully" -likes anyone?
cruzer
post #1  on October 8, 2004 - 1:52 PM PDT  
Hey film gurus,

I recently saw "All the Real Girls"
and then "Tully" and I completely fell for both..
Guess I'm in that state of mind right now.

Instead of fightin it - I'm craving for more!
For the usual suspects, "George Washington" has just
arrived, "the station agent" and "spring forward"
have already paid me a visit, but can people please
throw similar jems at me?

(just dont send me to my GC's recommendations list ;)

Thx!!!
DLeonard
post #2  on October 8, 2004 - 2:34 PM PDT  
Haven't seen either yet, but from what I know about them you may want to check out Raising Victor Vargas.

It's hard to tell, i could be on the wrong track. What about those 2 films has got you wanting more?

underdog
post #3  on October 8, 2004 - 2:43 PM PDT  
Hey Cruzer,

Have you seen the films of Terrence Malick? David Gordon Green (the director of All the Real Girls and George Washington) has made it quite public how influential Malick's work has been on his own.

I'd highly recommend Days of Heaven and Badlands, as examples of elegiac, lyrical indie Americana...

I'd also recommend:

Heavy

Charlotte Sometimes, which I think definitely shares a lot with the types of films you're looking at/for

And then even more so, this one:
XX/XY

Definitely a good double-bill with All the Real Girls

Hope this is a start!

Craig of GreenCine
cruzer
post #4  on October 8, 2004 - 11:26 PM PDT  
> On October 8, 2004 - 2:34 PM PDT DLeonard wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Haven't seen either yet, but from what I know about them you may want to check out Raising Victor Vargas.

Thanks, DLeonard.
I've actually already seen it.
Didn't care for it much. I found the acting
of the main characters quite lame. Gave me flashbacks
of my elementary school 'graduation' play..


>
> It's hard to tell, i could be on the wrong track. What about those 2 films has got you wanting more?
>
>

the characters, the storyline.
I guess Girls gave me flashbacks too, but of a more
cherished nature.
And Tully was even better...
cruzer
post #5  on October 8, 2004 - 11:31 PM PDT  
Hey, Craig - thx a lot!!

I saw the two malick's but quite some time ago.
Maybe it's time to pay him another visit, although
I seem to recall his story lines had elements of violence,
and otherwise greater than life feel to them.

The other three i did not know!
All shot to the top of my queue.
In fact XX/XY is the first I think on my queue
with a GC rating of < 6, but I'm a trusting person ;)

thx again!!!
underdog
post #6  on October 9, 2004 - 5:36 PM PDT  
You're welcome! :-)

Now, just a caveat - XX/XY isn't a "great" film in my opinion, but it is definitely worth seeing. I think some of the things it tackles are really interesting, real... but I particularly like the acting. I think Ruffalo is a fine actor. So don't expect something great, but it's an interesting film, and reminded me of some of the others you had mentioned. Give us your thoughts after you see it (and the others).

C
Cinenaut
post #7  on October 14, 2004 - 9:57 AM PDT  
Have you seen Pieces of April?
underdog
post #8  on October 15, 2004 - 11:23 AM PDT  
> On October 14, 2004 - 9:57 AM PDT Cinenaut wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Have you seen Pieces of April?
> ---------------------------------

I thought that was surprisingly superb! A great script, and Patricia Clarkson wonderful as always. A fine Thanksgiving treat. Yeah, add that to your queue, too!
cruzer
post #9  on October 21, 2004 - 12:40 AM PDT  
> On October 15, 2004 - 11:23 AM PDT underdog wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> > On October 14, 2004 - 9:57 AM PDT Cinenaut wrote:
> > ---------------------------------
> > Have you seen Pieces of April?

i thought the thread has sank into oblivion :)

thanks, cinenaut - that's a good match.
i know 'cause i saw it already. real good match...

Meanwhile I got to seeing "heavy".
Did not sit that well with me.
I just couldn't relate to the main character.
He seemed rather unpleasant and the way his eyes
kept shifting around really got to me...
sorry, underdog - i can see the resemblance and
would have probably enjoyed it had i been able to relate
to the guy.

I haven't been organizing my queue very well recently
and lady luck just brought me "all or nothing" and then
"time out", day after day.
The first upset me some but the latter with the total
defeat at the end. sigh...

Anyway - still got two more to check :)

cheers!
Cinenaut
post #10  on October 21, 2004 - 8:49 AM PDT  
What aspects of Tully did you enjoy?
underdog
post #11  on October 21, 2004 - 10:30 AM PDT  
Yeah, Heavy is kind of... Heavy. I suppose it does depend on how much you can empathize with the main character, he is kind of pathetic, but I thought, with Vince's performance, really human and sad, too. I dunno, I thought the script was very good but I could see how it wouldn't be everyone's cuppa joe.

All or Nothing is far from Mike Leigh's best work so I hope you'll check out some of his other films (although my favorite, LIFE IS SWEET, is *still* not out on DVD here in the states, sigh...) In fact, quite a few of his best are not on DVD here yet. But keep an eye out. And his latest, with Imelda Swaunton, VERA DRAKE, is out in theaters now and supposed to be excellent.

And the latest by David Gordon Green, UNDERTOW, is coming to theaters this month, too. You might want to check that out, given this discussion...

Keep us posted on your opinions!

C
Cinenaut
post #12  on October 21, 2004 - 10:39 AM PDT  
Why aren't more Mike Leigh movies out on DVD here? I loved Career Girls and Naked. For some reason, I was disappointed with All or Nothing. Maybe because there was no Katrin Cartildge in it?
underdog
post #13  on October 21, 2004 - 11:05 AM PDT  
> On October 21, 2004 - 10:39 AM PDT Cinenaut wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Why aren't more Mike Leigh movies out on DVD here? I loved Career Girls and Naked. For some reason, I was disappointed with All or Nothing. Maybe because there was no Katrin Cartildge in it?
> ---------------------------------

Sigh. I get really sad thinking about her, too - didn't she pass away from cancer a year or 2 ago? :-( I think more of Leigh's films will become available here soon - they've already begun releasing his oldest works, and with the new film out theatrically I'm optimistic the others won't be far behind. Naked is incredible - both Cartlidge and David Thewlis are superb in it. I still like Life is Sweet and Secrets and Lies the best.

underdog
post #14  on October 21, 2004 - 11:37 AM PDT  
Actually, Katrin Cartildge died of complications resulting from pneumonia and blood poisoning, at the ripe old age of 41(!). Really sad.

Er, sorry for bringing this thread down...

cruzer
post #15  on October 22, 2004 - 1:06 AM PDT  
> On October 21, 2004 - 10:30 AM PDT underdog wrote:
> ---------------------------------

> All or Nothing is far from Mike Leigh's best work

agreed! I've been a fan of Leigh ever since I saw
High Hopes. Shirley and Cyril are my heroes ;)

Bu then I almost stopped "all or nothing" half way through.
But I struggled on, and was quite disappointed.
Then a day later I thought somewhat better of it,
realizing that the script was as dull and bleak
as these folks' lives... I'm just left wondering if this
was done intentionally, or the result of rehitted leftovers.

GC's Leigh selection (inc requests) is kinda weird.
With oldies goldies I never heard of (mostly requests,
but then this one which debuts both Tim Roth and Gary Oldman
(wow! somebody give this guy a medal!!! I almost died
laughing in Roz & Guild - another non-DVDed jem!)

and thx for the great tips on them new flicks!

cruzer
post #16  on October 22, 2004 - 1:15 AM PDT  
> On October 21, 2004 - 8:49 AM PDT Cinenaut wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> What aspects of Tully did you enjoy?
> ---------------------------------

this is a tough one to quantify...
i really liked the characters, the story was credible
and struck a chord, and the rural setting was appealing.
but mostly i think its whether you connect to the
characters. and some of that, sometimes at least, has to do
with one's own experiences. if it happens that the film
resonates with them (like tully and all the real did for me)
then i think you really get a kick out of it.
and guessing the next movie that gives you that is tough ...
cruzer
post #17  on October 22, 2004 - 1:23 AM PDT  
> On October 21, 2004 - 11:05 AM PDT underdog wrote:
> ---------------------------------
>
> Naked is incredible - both Cartlidge and David Thewlis are superb in it.
>

first time i saw it, i went out of the theatre carrying
a motorcycle helmet, and I almost smasheds it into a glassy
surface just to unload some of the anger Naked conjoured in me...

Poor Katrin :(



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