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Screw ups in Movies!
Topic by: Chamelion
Posted: August 8, 2005 - 10:08 PM PDT
Last Reply: August 14, 2005 - 2:31 PM PDT

author topic: Screw ups in Movies!
Chamelion
post #1  on August 8, 2005 - 10:08 PM PDT  
Dunno if there's a topic like this on here, but going out on a limb and trying it here anyway.

Ever notice mistakes in movies, whether its vocal, visual or otherwise? Or something is said and a later event contradicts it severely?

One example of course is Mark Hamil calling Carrie Fisher by name at the end of Star Wars, instead of Leia.

Two I recently stumbled upon.

1) In the movie BATS, with Lou Diamond Phillips, they go into the mine at the end of the film wearing protective suits and oxygen tanks, because the bat guano would be strong enuff to kill them. But when they enter the cave area where the freezing machine is located, all the dead army guys are maskless... no sign of any breathing equipment at all!

2) In Days of Thunder, during the country side walk with Cole, his DR/GF, Rowdy and his wife.. Rowdy's wife calls Tom by name, ala Star Wars.


What do you have?

C
woozy
post #2  on August 8, 2005 - 11:29 PM PDT  
> One example of course is Mark Hamil calling Carrie Fisher by name at the end of Star Wars, instead of Leia.
>

Wha' ...


> 1) In the movie BATS, ...

The entire movie BATS is a screwup.

> What do you have?
>
Wizard of Oz. Scene where dorothy takes the scarecrow off the pole. Look and Dorothy's braid lengths. Boinga-boinga-boinga.

And freakin' stupid hollywood. The sappy Drew Barrymore Cinderella story "Ever After" in which Drew's character marries Prince Henry IV of France. Has the following: a) Leonardo da Vinci was ten years dead at this time b) The Mona Lisa is painted on wood, not canvas and couldn't be rolled in a tube, c) the da Vinci sketch the batty old woman should the brothers Grim was of Catherine de Medici, not the country farm girl that Drew played and d) Henry IV married Catherine de Medici in an arranged marriage and not a country farm girl for love.

Chamelion
post #3  on August 8, 2005 - 11:52 PM PDT  
> On August 8, 2005 - 11:29 PM PDT woozy wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> > One example of course is Mark Hamil calling Carrie Fisher by name at the end of Star Wars, instead of Leia.
> >
>
> Wha' ...
>
>

You didn't know? It's when Luke gets out of his X-wing after blowing up the Deathstar. The Princess runs to him and in his excitment, he yells CARRIE and embraces her.

> > 1) In the movie BATS, ...
>
> The entire movie BATS is a screwup.

Yeah, but I like those kinf of films.... 90 minutes of brain dead fun :)

>
> > What do you have?
> >
> Wizard of Oz. Scene where dorothy takes the scarecrow off the pole. Look and Dorothy's braid lengths. Boinga-boinga-boinga.
>
> And freakin' stupid hollywood. The sappy Drew Barrymore Cinderella story "Ever After" in which Drew's character marries Prince Henry IV of France. Has the following: a) Leonardo da Vinci was ten years dead at this time b) The Mona Lisa is painted on wood, not canvas and couldn't be rolled in a tube, c) the da Vinci sketch the batty old woman should the brothers Grim was of Catherine de Medici, not the country farm girl that Drew played and d) Henry IV married Catherine de Medici in an arranged marriage and not a country farm girl for love.
>
>
> ---------------------------------

well, for Ever After, thats a screw up of mythology... Im aiming for in-movie gaffs.

One that was intentional, that I always loved was in Ghostbusters.

"LISTEN!" *pause* "Do you smell something!?"

I love that.

C
woozy
post #4  on August 9, 2005 - 10:02 AM PDT  
>>
> You didn't know? It's when Luke gets out of his X-wing after blowing up the Deathstar. The Princess runs to him and in his excitment, he yells CARRIE and embraces her.
>

Never heard that. According to IMDB:

"Incorrectly regarded as goofs: It is frequently claimed that upon returning to the Rebel base after destroying the Death Star, Luke exclaims, "Carrie!" when he hears Leia (Carrie Fisher) call "Luke!" Sound designer Ben Burtt has confirmed that, after extensive listening, it appears to be "Hey" or "Yay"; 'Mark Hamill' reports that he said, "Hey! There she is!" but mumbled the last word. Yet, trained lip readers report only two syllables being spoken and they look like Carrie."

> well, for Ever After, thats a screw up of mythology... Im aiming for in-movie gaffs.
>

Wizard of Oz has got a lot. The witch before the poppy scene refers to insects to give them a bite, and the scene is never explained, in the haunted forest they are carrying butterfly nets, water pistols, and other objects that disappear and so on. Not a goof but interesting, the initial B&W scenes were shot in sepia but replaced with ... er non-sepia and the only remaining sepia shot is of aunt em in the chrystal ball.
ALittlefield
post #5  on August 9, 2005 - 2:05 PM PDT  

> >
>
> Wizard of Oz has got a lot. The witch before the poppy scene refers to insects to give them a bite, and the scene is never explained, in the haunted forest they are carrying butterfly nets, water pistols, and other objects that disappear and so on. Not a goof but interesting, the initial B&W scenes were shot in sepia but replaced with ... er non-sepia and the only remaining sepia shot is of aunt em in the chrystal ball.


Also, there's a scene where you can clearly see the string holding the cowardly lion's tail, and towards the end of the film, we see the scarecrow fumbling with a rope tied to a balloon; he's supposed to drop it accidently, but he appears to be untying it on purpose.
Another interesting kind of gaffe is the sequel that forgets/ignores what happened in previous films: The happy ending of FRANKENSTEIN is completely forgotten in the sequel ; the indestructable Alien in ALIEN becomes much wimpier in ALIENS; in Friday the 13th.Pt. V someone mentions that Jason Vorhees was cremated, the next film starts at his gravesite!
And while we're on the subject, why doesn't anyone notice how James Bond gets years younger every few films?
> ---------------------------------

jross3
post #6  on August 9, 2005 - 2:50 PM PDT  
The movie The Princess Blade has a lot of these... but rather than them being on-set screw ups, I think they just didn't care.

One example: During a fight scene, the fighters roll down a small hill - both lose their swords; at one is thrown off into the woods as they fall, and the other was lost beforehand (thus leading to the hand-to-hand brawl leading to the hill-rolling). But when they get to the bottom, they fight a bit more, and then one actress stabs the other through the hand with a sword she didn't have.
aacevedo
post #7  on August 9, 2005 - 4:51 PM PDT  
LAST ACTION HERO had so many errors (both intentional {so they claimed} and otherwise) that they had a contest to find them all.
lizzoqops
post #8  on August 10, 2005 - 7:21 PM PDT  
I saw the Exorcist too many times in the theater when it came out. Wnen Ellen Burstyn's character first talks to Father Karras (they're walking), she's smoking a cigarette. She throws it away, and then 2 seconds later she still has it. I thought I was the only one who saw this, but it's on IMDB.
ALittlefield
post #9  on August 11, 2005 - 12:34 PM PDT  
You can see boom mikes in THE GRIFTERS and IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER, which are both good anyway.
Chamelion
post #10  on August 12, 2005 - 7:51 PM PDT  
In the theatrical run of TREMORS, you could see the Boom Mic during the night scene with the Doc and his wife, before they get eaten... but in the DVD release, they fixed the screen. Bummer.

I'll have to watch that part of Star Wars again; but each time I do, I swear I hear Carrie. heheh.

Older movies like Wizard of Oz and so on, are bound to have mistakes when it was less important to make sure every little detail was correct.

C
ALittlefield
post #11  on August 14, 2005 - 7:23 AM PDT  
In the French movie BREATHLESS there are scenes where the poor editing makes the movie jump forward slightly. How sloppy! And in NATURAL BORN KILLERS there are scenes where the picture goes black and white or the film stock changes.
Shaky
post #12  on August 14, 2005 - 2:31 PM PDT  
I'm surprised nobody has brought up the "mistake" in the name of the company Neo works for in the first Matrix movie. The sign outside the building says "Metacortex." The sign on the wall inside Neo's office says "Meta Cortechs." The movie mistake websites and books all point to this as a big continuity error.

In reality, the "mistake" was intentional. The Wachowski brothers are big anime fans and put a number of anime references in the Matrix films. One common mistake that happens in anime is that a name written in English will be spelled differently in different places. For example, the evil Hugh Geit corporation that shows up in some of the the Bubblegum Crisis series and in the Armitage franchise is alternately spelled "Hugh Gite" and "Hu-Gite." This happens because the artists are working from Japanese kana phonetic script, with which all three of those names would be spelled the exact same way. One guy working on one scene will translate it from katakana with one English spelling, while another guy working on a different scene will translate it with a different spelling. Or perhaps the same guy will draw both, but won't remember how he spelled it three weeks ago when working on the other scene and will make his best guess. It happens a lot, with difficult (to the Japanese) western character or organization names often changing several times throughout a series.

So the Wachowskis threw in a "translation error" as a sort of inside joke for their fellow anime fans, who they hoped would see the Matrix films as a sort of live action English language anime. Now that you know, you can be a dork like me and correct your friends when they bring up the Matrix in conversations about movie errors.

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