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Feeling like Bruce Banner...
Topic by: Ursus
Posted: March 21, 2006 - 5:59 PM PST
Last Reply: April 10, 2006 - 12:35 PM PDT

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author topic: Feeling like Bruce Banner...
Ursus
post #1  on March 21, 2006 - 5:59 PM PST  
Rage. Not just a once brilliant, now defunct political band bent on "sticking it to the man," but, the burning intensity of a thousand white-hot suns that disgorges itself from the dark, primative reaches of our reptilian brain for the purposes of havoc, ruination, and extirpation. Left to fester, rage begets revenge to succor and molify these "unacceptable" feelings.

Sadly, not having acceptable outlets for rage or revenge, and lacking the super-human abilities of the Hulk to "Smash!" the sh#t out of those things, situations, institutions that cause me so much grevious mental injury, I often turn to the genre of REVENGE FILMS for solace.

So, let me hear your opinions, GC. I want to know those lovely gems of revenge that hold warm and dark places within your film loving heart.

I want REVENGE!
Only the vengeful need apply :)

Three of my guilty REVENGE favorites:
Get Carter- The Original with Michael Caine and the Remake with Sly (The only movie of Sly's that I can stomach/enjoy)
Man on Fire- The remake with Denzel (The most delicious Black Actor alive- according to a southern, female friend)
Sin City- Robert Rodriguez and Frank Miller (Marv's Story gets me every time)
lizzoqops
post #2  on March 21, 2006 - 6:16 PM PST  
Sadly, in real life, revenge brings no solace, and is perpetuated by a guilty conscience. Hence:

Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance

Oldboy

Lady Vengeance

We can only hope for atonement.
Ursus
post #3  on March 21, 2006 - 7:31 PM PST  
In taking revenge, a man is but even with his enemy; but in passing it over, he is superior.
Sir Francis Bacon
English author, courtier, & philosopher (1561 - 1626)

Forgiveness is the fragrance the violet sheds on the heel that has crushed it.
Author Unknown

The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong.
Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948)


Too True. Yet, like chocolate (Hmmmm... Chocolate.) sometimes only revenge will do. At my best I am thinking and rational, at my worst I am lower than an animal, but far more dangerous.

Still, I know you cats like the revenge films. Give'm up, GC.
DLeonard
post #4  on March 22, 2006 - 12:52 AM PST  
Revenge movies?
There's a member list of these floating around here I'm pretty sure.

On the top of my list would most likely be Point Blank.

Forget about that neutered remake with Mel Gibson.
woozy
post #5  on March 22, 2006 - 12:16 PM PST  
White is a good revenge film that's very different from the norm.

It is a very cold revenge (and very bitter).

As a thread hijack, 'cause everyone loves them, what is UP with the GC search function when you search on "White"?
underdog
post #6  on March 22, 2006 - 12:47 PM PST  
> On March 22, 2006 - 12:16 PM PST woozy wrote:
> --------------------------------->
> As a thread hijack, 'cause everyone loves them, what is UP with the GC search function when you search on "White"?
> ---------------------------------

That *was* annoying. It's because the catalog only had it listed as "Three Colors: White" instead of also having it under "White." I fixed it now.

Come on, can't you just search under Krsytof Kieslewski... er, Krystof Kies... er, Krzysztof Kieslowski?

Rage subsiding...



woozy
post #7  on March 22, 2006 - 3:10 PM PST  
> That *was* annoying. It's because the catalog only had it listed as "Three Colors: White" instead of also having it under "White." I fixed it now.
>
Do the same for Blue and Red, please. Thank you.

But what was wierd was on the top ten matches only two films had "White" in the title at all so why the heck were they showing up? And even if "Three colors: white" doesn't come up first you'd think it come in somewhere before 100.

> Come on, can't you just search under Krsytof Kieslewski... er, Krystof Kies... er, Krzysztof Kieslowski?
>
I tried "Krzysztof Kieslowski" and got nothing.

> Rage subsiding...
>
Mine too, and BTW, I didn't want to hijack. Just recommend "White" as a different type of revenge film. And then there's always This bit in the more familiar revenge format.
underdog
post #8  on March 22, 2006 - 4:53 PM PST  
> On March 22, 2006 - 3:10 PM PST woozy wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> > That *was* annoying. It's because the catalog only had it listed as "Three Colors: White" instead of also having it under "White." I fixed it now.
> >
> Do the same for Blue and Red, please. Thank you.

Done!
Tres bien.

And no worries, I was just keeping with the Incredible Hulk theme. Didn't Homer Simpson say the same thing in their Shining parody (The Shinning)? Anyway...
SonjaBlue
post #9  on March 22, 2006 - 7:31 PM PST  
Ursus wrote:

> ...Left to fester, rage begets revenge to succor and molify these "unacceptable" feelings.<

The problem with rage is that it is more apt to create unnecessary collateral damage. In my experience, it simply isn't capable of fathering anything because it lacks focus and burns itself out much too quickly. Are you sure you aren't thinking of hatred or perhaps, fear?

> Sadly, ...lacking the super-human abilities...<

So you're not a Were- then?

Ursus, for entire films based upon revenge...

1) Kill Bill: Vol. 1 & Vol. 2
2) First Blood (aka Rambo: First Blood)
3) Carrie
4) Christine
5) Maniac Cop 2
6) Heathers
7) V For Vendetta
8) Blade & Blade II
9) Batman Begins
10) Batman: Mask Of The Phantasm
11) Spawn (TV series)
12) Friday The 13th (the first film)

Aspects or major scenes of revenge:

1) Tombstone (Earps/Clantons)
2) True Romance (Virgil/Alabama)

If you tire of films, how about a few things published?

1) The Werewolf & The Vampire -- a novella by Mr. R. Chetwynd-Hayes (If you are unfamiliar with this story, it's not what you think. It's what happens to lovers when the...pillar of the community decides to f*ck with them.)
2) Batman
3) The Crow (absolutely pass over the bastardized film and TV versions)
4) The Ghost Rider
5) Ahem...
SonjaBlue
post #10  on March 22, 2006 - 7:34 PM PST  
For the lighter side of films, try:

1) Kill The Man
2) Office Space
SonjaBlue
post #11  on March 22, 2006 - 7:39 PM PST  
B-Movie:

Attack Of The 50ft Woman
SonjaBlue
post #12  on March 22, 2006 - 7:45 PM PST  
Oder...

Sie tötete in Ekstase (aka She Killed In Ecstasy)
Ursus
post #13  on March 23, 2006 - 10:35 AM PST  
To SonjaBlue: I feel hatred is more of a state of being (static), whilst Rage has impetus to action (dynamic) beyond a state of being... but that's just one humble bear's opinion.

And, no, I am not a Were-Bear. I was only waxing over the possibility of having "Hulk-like" invulnerable/immunity from harm when seeking revenge against one's oppressors.
Ahhh... Good Times [he said wistfully]

Beware the Fury of a Patient Man.

or

Beware the Furry of a Patient Man.
(To each their own, I guess)
SonjaBlue
post #14  on March 23, 2006 - 11:51 AM PST  
Ursus wrote:

> To SonjaBlue: I feel hatred is more of a state of being (static), whilst Rage has impetus to action (dynamic) beyond a state of being... but that's just one humble bear's opinion.<

Ursus, it is acceptable for you to call me Sonja.

I'll meet you halfway. Hatred is a state of being, but if you truly believe that it is static, Yogi has one up on you.


> And, no, I am not a Were-Bear. I was only waxing over the possibility of having "Hulk-like" invulnerable/immunity from harm when seeking revenge against one's oppressors.<

There is no need to rely on a perceived lack of invulnerability/immunity as long as one possesses motivation, persistence, and better aim.

> Beware the Fury of a Patient Man.<

Effectual change is made by an impatient (wo)man.

I have to rest now...it's been a long night.
Ursus
post #15  on March 23, 2006 - 12:56 PM PST  
>I'll meet you halfway.
Fair'nough... besides, there are far worse things than meeting a lady "half-way" ; )


Sleep well, Sonja. It has been a pleasure, and thank you for the candor and fellowship; I would doff my cap were I wearing one.

NLee
post #16  on March 23, 2006 - 1:29 PM PST  
> On March 23, 2006 - 11:51 AM PST SonjaBlue wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Ursus, it is acceptable for you to call me Sonja.

> ---------------------------------

Ursus take note: that one of those Blue's Clues.
Ursus
post #17  on March 23, 2006 - 3:38 PM PST  
Well, NLEE, I'm not Steve or Joe... but I wouldn't presume that you would have to be to see Blue's paw prints : ) I would like to consider myself to be smarter than the avg. bear (if I may be so boastful), however, even smart-bears need the occassional clue. A smart bear should never assume... unless of course the hint drops with the subtlety of a brick through pane.

Side Note:
I do love me some Blue's Clues. My 3 yr. old niece and I do enjoy watching Blue's Clues together whenever I get out to NC to visit.
woozy
post #18  on March 23, 2006 - 4:03 PM PST  
> Side Note:
> I do love me some Blue's Clues. My 3 yr. old niece and I do enjoy watching Blue's Clues together whenever I get out to NC to visit.
> ---------------------------------

I was hoping my nieces might like blue's clues so I'd get to watch it but somehow they didn't get into it. I did get to watch tele-tubbies (which I consider brilliant) and zaboomaphoo with my oldest but my three younger nieces, despite my prompting, seem to have managed a television free lifestyle. (Yet, *gad*, that interminable barbi still got through to them, which my oldest, oddly as she is the most aggressively fem-pink of the bunch, never took to.) My oldest, now nine, is into things I've never heard of. She's still my darling though.

SonjaBlue
post #19  on March 24, 2006 - 8:21 PM PST  
Sonja wrote:

>Ursus, it is acceptable for you to call me Sonja.<

NLee wrote:

> Ursus take note: that one of those Blue's Clues.<

NLee, what clue is that?
woozy
post #20  on March 24, 2006 - 10:52 PM PST  
>
> > Ursus take note: that one of those Blue's Clues.<
>
> NLee, what clue is that?
> ---------------------------------

I'll wager Ac||MajScRev5

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