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Movies that should be on DVD but aren't
Topic by: yulek
Posted: September 16, 2002 - 11:00 AM PDT
Last Reply: November 12, 2008 - 2:42 PM PST

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author topic: Movies that should be on DVD but aren't
yulek
post #1  on September 16, 2002 - 11:00 AM PDT  
my list of movies that need to be on DVD but currently aren't:

. The Mission - i can't think of a more deserving movie of high quality DVD treatement
. Lost Highway - there's a horrible canadian DVD out (it's also out of print now), but i want a proper treatement of this Lynch masterpiece
. Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead - with commentary by William Shakespear would be nice :)
. Naked Lunch - now that Burroughs is dead we can't count on his commentary, but i think a DVD treatement of this film is a must. my VHS version is starting to wear out.
. Miller's Crossing - imo the best Coen Brothers film, can't understand why it's not on DVD yet.
. Wild At Heart - the greatest David Lynch film period. again, my tape of it is on it's last leg.
. Yume - otherwise known as Akira Kurosawa's "Dreams". the most colorful and magical of Kursawa's film. it's a bit out there, but would make a splendid DVD. gorgeous visuals and soundtrack that simply don't work on VHS.
. Raiders of the Lost Ark - duh. well they missed the 20th anniversary, maybe waiting for the 25th? and i hope when it does get released it's not some "extended" version with added CGI from Lucas' twisted mind.
. Star Wars episodes IV-VI - this is a dream that won't happen, i know, but i wish that when they finally release this it'll be of the ORIGINAL cuts, not that crap Lucas tried to pull with the "extra" scenes in the re-releases in the late 90s.
. Colonel Wolodyjowski / The Deluge / With Fire and Sword - really outstanding trilogy of Polish films (based on books by Henryk Sienkiewicz). available on DVD but only in PAL.
. Battle Royale - this japanese splatter flick about kids who have to kill each other on an island is destined to be a cult classic. a bit of the ultraviolence and the american censors go nuts. there's a DVD out, but i'm not sure if it's Region 1/All Region encoded.
. The Thief of Baghdad - the 1940 version by the Korda brothers. total mishmash of arabian nights stories but grandly presented and one of my favourite films of all.
. Arizona Dream - a very strange and excellent film. what a cast: J.Depp, F.Dunaway, J.Lewis, L.Taylor.
. Eraserhead - we already have most of the Lynch commentary for that film on Pretty as a Picture but it really deserves a DVD on it's own.
. My Own Private Idaho - in my opinion Gus Van Sant's best film.
. Silent Tongue - written and directed by S.Shepard this is a film on par with Jarmusch's "Dead Man" in terms of mood and strangeness (and obviously setting).

how about the rest of y'all, what are you waiting for?
oldkingcole
post #2  on September 16, 2002 - 2:23 PM PDT  
Yulek,

Interesting list! I second your desire for a Naked Lunch DVD. The laserdisc release of this film was only pan and scan, so I refused to buy it. A good DVD is needed! Also, Cronenberg's long-time composer, Howard Shore -- who won an Oscar for the music he wrote for last year's Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring -- wrote one of the best musical underscores of the 1990s for this film, utilizing jazz great Ornette Coleman as a soloist. In fact, Shore's score to Naked Lunch ranks, in my opinion, as one of the best films scores of all time.

Raiders of the Lost Ark will inevitably be released on DVD. I think that's a given. Good point about the potential for Lucas and Co. to screw it up, though, by making gratuitous "improvements". Ugh.

As for Star Wars, Eps. IV-VI, Lucas has already gone on record as saying he has no intention of ever releasing the original versions of these films again. See my GreenCine article for more thoughts on revisionist film releases.

With respect to Eraserhead, you're in luck! David Lynch has self-released this film on DVD. You can get it direct from him at http://www.davidlynch.com. Most likely, it won't have chapter-stops, though. In some misguided attempt to force viewers to watch his films from start to finish, Lynch has a philosophy of not putting any chapter stops on the DVDs of his films. Personally, I find this annoying, and it makes it much harder to study individual sequences (or even *find* individual sections of the film for later reference).

I would add the following films to your list:

A Pure Formality -- Guiseppe Tornatore's moody, surreal identity crisis film, with Gérard Depardieu and Roman Polanski in the lead roles. I channel surfed into this film on cable tv one day, and was completely hooked. Ran out and got the laserdisc. But this film is so cool, I long for DVD I can loan out to friends.

Homicide: Life on the Streets -- probably the best "cops and robbers" (or in this case, "detectives and murderers") show ever created for american TV. Superb acting, unbelievably great writing; this show deserves season-by-season boxed set DVD releases.

Short Cuts -- My favorite Robert Altman film.

Painted Faces -- A Hong Kong film detailing the early lives of Jackie Chan, Sammo Hung, and Yuen Biao, among others, at the Peking Opera orphanage/school where they grew up. Sammo Hung plays the character of the man who, in real life, was his schoolmaster.

There are others -- like Ed and his Dead Mother, In the Cold of the Night, Love is a Gun, and the 1948 Kirk Alyn Superman serial -- that I'd be glad to see on DVD, but this is a good start.
DLeonard
post #3  on September 16, 2002 - 5:22 PM PDT  
I too am eager to see Short Cuts on DVD. The title is actually listed on this site, but other places list it as not available, which made me think it had been available at one time but not now.

It turns out that most of Altman's films are unavailable on DVD, well over half. And the period from Buffalo Bill to The Player (about 15 years of work) is a total void.

Maybe things are starting to change, because McCabe & Mrs. Miller was recently released and tomorrow The Long Goodbye hits the shelves. Sure hope so. It would be nice to see Images, 3 Women, Vincent & Theo, California Split, Thieves Like Us, Cold Day in the Park, Steamers, A Wedding, or hell, Popeye.
underdog
post #4  on September 19, 2002 - 5:15 PM PDT  
I've got some more favorites to add to your fine list:

THE AWFUL TRUTH -- classic screwball comedy with Cary Grant

THE BUTCHER BOY -- Neil Jordan's dark, memorable 1997 flick

RED, WHITE and BLUE -- Unless I'm mistaken, these three beautiful films from the late Krzysztof Kieslowski are not out on DVD -- for which its cinematography are perfectly suited. Strange.

DELICATESSEN -- one of my personal faves!

KISS OF THE SPIDER WOMAN -- I think this one may finally be coming out soon but don't know for sure

LITTLE BIG MAN -- another personal favorite, with a young Dustin Hoffman

LIVING IN OBLIVION -- talk about a title serving as prescient

and where the hell is TREASURE OF THE SIERRA MADRE??

Also waiting interminably for: SLACKER; REDS; SCHINDLER'S LIST;

We could go on and on. And hopefully we will. ;)

C aka U

dpowers
post #5  on September 19, 2002 - 9:12 PM PDT  
this is a dupe from the other thread ... because i don't know how these things are distributed but put work into the list so i want people to see it!

weird though i think there isn't much duplication between this list and others. i would have figured on having something more in common with people. :<

here's a list of movies that i think need a dvd, and soon:

1. After Hours (1985, Martin SCORSESE)
2. * Anxiety (1998, Manoel DE OLIVEIRA)
3. Apu Trilogy (1955-1959, Satyajit RAY)
4. L'Atalante (1934, Jean VIGO)
5. The Battle of Algiers (1965, Gillo PONTECORVO) -- ESPECIALLY NOW!!!
6. Blush (1994, LI Shaohong)
7. Boudu Saved from Drowning (1932, Jean RENOIR)
8. Celine and Julie Go Boating (1974, Jacques RIVETTE)
9. Cyclo (1995, TRAN Anh Hung)
10. * Diary for My Children (1984, Márta MÉSZÁROS)
11. * Dust in the Wind (1986, HOU Hsiao-Hsien)
12. * Erotikon (1929, Gustav MACHATY)
13. The Exterminating Angel (1962, Luis BUÑUEL)
14. The Golden Coach (1952, Jean RENOIR)
15. * Guelwaar (1992, Ousmane SEMBENE)
16. The Horse Thief (1986, TIAN Zhuangzhuang)
17. Housekeeping (1987, Bill FORSYTH)
18. Jour de fête (1948, Jacques TATI)
19. * Killer of Sheep (1977, Charles BURNETT)
20. Ladybird Ladybird (1994, Ken LOACH)
21. Latcho Drom (1993, Tony GATLIF)
22. Letter from an Unknown Woman (1948, Max OPHÜLS)
23. A Man Escaped (1956, Robert BRESSON)
24. * Nausicaä of the Valley of Wind (1984, Hayao MIYAZAKI)
25. Night and Day (1991, Chantal AKERMAN)
26. French Cancan (1954, Jean RENOIR)
27. Out of the Past (1947, Jacques TOURNEUR)
28. Pandora's Box (1929, Georg Wilhelm PABST)
29. Pennies from Heaven (1981, Herbert ROSS)
30. * Pompoko (1994, Isao TAKAHATA)
31. Rosetta (1999, Jean-Pierre DARDENNE/Luc DARDENNE)
32. Le Samouraï (1967, Jean-Pierre MELVILLE)
33. Sans Soleil (1983, Chris MARKER)
34. * The Sensualist (1991, Yukio ABE)
35. The Singing Detective (1986, Jon AMIEL)
36. Tess (1979, Roman POLANSKI)
37. Time of the Gypsies (1989, Emir KUSTURICA)
38. * A Touch of Zen (1969, King HU)
39. * Trouble in Paradise (1932, Ernst LUBITSCH)
40. * Werckmeister Harmonies (2000, Béla TARR/Ágnes HRANITZKY)

* = not even on vhs.
dpowers
post #6  on September 19, 2002 - 9:16 PM PDT  
> Arizona Dream

> 37. Time of the Gypsies (1989, Emir KUSTURICA)

we should form a kusturica gang and force somebody to release all of them. i think new yorker video has "black cat, white cat" on dvd, let's get 'em.
dpowers
post #7  on September 19, 2002 - 9:23 PM PDT  
>Short Cuts -- My favorite Robert Altman film.

okay wait, last little message, you like short cuts over mccabe and mrs. miller? for real? of course you said "favorite" which can mean anything.
oldkingcole
post #8  on September 19, 2002 - 9:47 PM PDT  
> On September 19, 2002 - 9:23 PM PST DPOWERS wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> >Short Cuts -- My favorite Robert Altman film.
>
> okay wait, last little message, you like short cuts over mccabe and mrs. miller? for real? of course you said "favorite" which can mean anything.
> ---------------------------------

In this case "favorite" means "I haven't seen McCabe and Mrs. Miller!" Thanks for the recommendation! :-)

I've actually seen very little Altman. I think just Quintet, M*A*S*H, Short Cuts, and Nashville. Of those, Short Cuts is my favorite.
oldkingcole
post #9  on September 19, 2002 - 10:10 PM PDT  
> On September 19, 2002 - 9:12 PM PST DPOWERS wrote:

> 29. Pennies from Heaven (1981, Herbert ROSS)
> [...]
> 35. The Singing Detective (1986, Jon AMIEL)

Oh, yes, yes, yes. What we need, really, is a nice Dennis Potter boxed set. You know, something like The Complete Television Works of Dennis Potter, Volumes I - n.

But I do feel compelled to point out that you've listed the *wrong* Pennies from Heaven. It's not the 1981 Hollywood version starring Steve Martin that we need, but the original 1978 British TV version starring Bob Hoskins! The American remake was a failure in too many ways for me to want to rewatch it. The original is one of Potter's two great masterpieces. The other being the 1986 miniseries, The Singing Detective, which is some of the most amazing TV ever committed to the open airwaves.

If we can't get a Complete Works series, I'd at least like to see DVD releases of Double Dare, Cream In My Coffee, Blade on the Feather, Karaoke, Cold Lazarus and Potter's moving Last Interview with Melvyn Bragg. This is in addition to Pennies...(1978) and Singing...(1986), of course.

Although it wasn't produced for TV, I also wouldn't mind a DVD of Potter's (only?) film, Secret Friends.

Evidently, François Girard (The Red Violin) is directing a remake of The Singing Detective starring Robert Downey Jr. It's hard to see how it could hope to compare to the original, but perhaps interest in the remake will convince someone to release the original on DVD (though that didn't happen with Pennies from Heaven and its remake, alas).
oldkingcole
post #10  on September 19, 2002 - 10:56 PM PDT  
A few others I've been waiting for:

Lonely Are the Brave
El Cid
The Coming of the Humanoids
Colossus: The Forbin Project


Oh, and since we're dreaming, I'd love to see a DVD release of the complete 9-episode run of Quark, the short-lived 1978 sci-fi parody TV show starring Richard Benjamin as the title character. The two-parter, "All the Emperor's Quasi-Norms", in which Ficus the Vegeton (a "Spock" parody) explains to Princess Libido that "Vegetons don't mate, we pollenate!" and proceeds to show her how (!), is priceless, as is nearly any scene with Andy the cowardly robot. Upon being captured by Zorgon the Malevolent, Capt. Adam Quark tries to negotiate for the release of himself and his crew, including Andy. Andy prefers to just beg. Raising one hand and waving it about as if waiting for Zorgon to call on him (as if he were in school), he blurts out (in that that now-cliched vocoder/cylon monotone mechanical voice): "Emperor Zorgon, I am willing to grovel." :-) Funny stuff from Buck Henry, the creator of another funny genre spoof series, Get Smart (which, come to think of it, is another show I wouldn't mind seeing on DVD -- especially that Don Rickles two-parter!).
sappho
post #11  on September 19, 2002 - 11:17 PM PDT  
Valley Of The Dolls- I am shocked this is not on DVD.

I have to agree on A Pure Formality as well. That was an incredible film and I've seen it several times. It never fails to grip me and it's the kind of film that would be SO enhanced in DVD format.

Also, does anyone know if they released more of the Muppet Shows on DVD? I know that there are a few here on GC (which I scooped up right away)...but there were so so many muppet shows that it would be great to have more on DVD. I think there are more on video though.
oldkingcole
post #12  on September 19, 2002 - 11:25 PM PDT  
I was just reading GreenCiner sappho's list of lesbian films and I was surprised that Lianna wasn't on it. Then I realized, Lianna's not out on DVD. In fact, most of John Sayles' work is unrepresented on the shiney disc. So I guess I'd want to add Lianna, Matewan, Return of the Secaucus 7, and The Brother from Another Planet to the list. Actually Brother... is, or was, available on a really cheapo pan-and-scan DVD at one time, though the Internet Movie Database doesn't note this. I read somewhere a while back that a new widescreen edition DVD of it was in the works. But since then, I haven't heard anything more about it.

Ok, I'll shut up now and let someone else have a turn! :-)
oldkingcole
post #13  on September 20, 2002 - 7:53 AM PDT  
> On September 19, 2002 - 9:47 PM PST oldkingcole wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> > On September 19, 2002 - 9:23 PM PST DPOWERS wrote:
> > ---------------------------------
> > >Short Cuts -- My favorite Robert Altman film.
> >
> > okay wait, last little message, you like short cuts over mccabe and mrs. miller? for real? of course you said "favorite" which can mean anything.
> > ---------------------------------
>
> In this case "favorite" means "I haven't seen McCabe and Mrs. Miller!" Thanks for the recommendation! :-)
>
> I've actually seen very little Altman. I think just Quintet, M*A*S*H, Short Cuts, and Nashville. Of those, Short Cuts is my favorite.
>
> ---------------------------------
...I forgot to mention that I've also seen Altman's The Player and Gosford Park. Still like Short Cuts best, though.

JHeath
post #14  on September 20, 2002 - 8:15 AM PDT  
I think the entire 7-up series should be released on dvd. You can get 42 up now but I will not watch it without viewing the first ones in order.
hneline1
post #15  on September 20, 2002 - 10:05 AM PDT  
I'll add to this list --

Tango Bar -- my all time favorite argentine tango movie with some of the most sublime authentic dancing. Raul Julia dances with heart. I think that the dancing here is much better than in Tango or Tango Lesson.

Shall We Dance? -- the Japanese movie about a salaryman learning how to dance ballroom. If you've ever tried to learn how to dance, this movie captures that weird feeling oh so well. :-)
dpowers
post #16  on September 20, 2002 - 12:21 PM PDT  
> On September 19, 2002 - 10:10 PM PST oldkingcole wrote:
>It's not the 1981 Hollywood version starring Steve Martin
>that we need, but the original 1978 British TV version
>starring Bob Hoskins!

that's what i heard. i was even going to london this december to try to rent the mini-series. (i have other plans, too, like sight-seeing, but isn't renting foreign videos in a foreign country "sight-seeing"?) in the herbert ross version's defense, certain numbers are incredible, the title dance, the school room dance.

plus, i liked the dark steve martin.

lipstick on your collar, the 1993 miniseries where ewan mcgregor lipsyncs elvis, can be rented at le video in san francisco (because you can't get it from greencine because it's not on dvd but it's very fun).

also, dreamchild, dennis potter's story about lewis carroll, will play at the castro in san francisco, october 4-10. it's probably on tour and playing other cities too. it's a trip, especially if you like ian holm.
underdog
post #17  on September 20, 2002 - 1:05 PM PDT  
Add my name to the clamoring for SINGING DETECTIVE. One of my all time favorites, and I was tempted to buy the VHS box set just to have it but keep holding out, hope against hope, for DVD.

And, ditto for Kustarica films. UNDERGROUND is another one of my lil favorites -- completely unforgettable from the first moment on, from the first appearance by the roving Slavic band and all the chaos that comes afterwards. Anyone know why ALL of his other films (besides BCAT/WCAT) are held up?

Oh and a PS: re the Muppet Show: Yes, there are quite a few more episodes out on DVD now. I just rented (from a local store, not GreenCine, ack, sorry!) a DVD that had the Peter Sellers (a classic), John Cleese and Dudley Moore episodes. Wonderful. I am quite sure GreenCine will be getting more of these very soon...

e-mail them a request if you want though.

Piiiiiiiiiiiigs in spaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaace!

udog
sappho
post #18  on September 20, 2002 - 1:06 PM PDT  
AHA! I thought of another one...Zorba The Greek- one of my favorites!
oldkingcole
post #19  on September 20, 2002 - 4:48 PM PDT  
> On September 20, 2002 - 12:21 PM PST DPOWERS wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> > On September 19, 2002 - 10:10 PM PST oldkingcole wrote:
> >It's not the 1981 Hollywood version starring Steve Martin
> >that we need, but the original 1978 British TV version
> >starring Bob Hoskins!
>
> that's what i heard. i was even going to london this december to try to rent the mini-series. (i have other plans, too, like sight-seeing, but isn't renting foreign videos in a foreign country "sight-seeing"?)

The Museum of Radio and Television in New York has the TV version in its collection, if I recall correctly. A branch of that museum opened in Los Angeles a few years ago; they also might have it. Or, you might find it in London. But so far as I know, it is unavailable, even in Europe. A lady who had a "British TV" video booth at the San Diego Comic-Con a couple of years ago speculated (she actually asserted this as fact, but I'm not so sure) that part of the deal in which the makers of the 1981 film secured the rights to Dennis Potter's screenplay involved denying the right to anyone to release the original 1978 TV version so as to not create any competition or confusion in the market place. I hope that's not true, but stranger things have happened.

> lipstick on your collar, the 1993 miniseries where ewan mcgregor lipsyncs elvis, can be rented at le video in san francisco (because you can't get it from greencine because it's not on dvd but it's very fun).

I found Lipstick... kind of disappointing.

>
> also, dreamchild, dennis potter's story about lewis carroll, will play at the castro in san francisco, october 4-10. it's probably on tour and playing other cities too. it's a trip, especially if you like ian holm.
>

Dreamchild, on the other hand, is wonderful. How could I have forgotten it? We definitely need a Dreamchild DVD! It's not just Ian Holm who turns in a great performance, but Coral Brown and Peter Gallagher are also terrific in it.

How can so many DVDs have been released, and so few of Dennis Potters works? I tell ya, it just ain't fair!
Dwoodwoo
post #20  on September 20, 2002 - 5:15 PM PDT  
Yes, Craig, there the Muppets will be here soon ;) As far as the Henson company goes, I'm hoping for a release of The Storyteller -- the short lived series of the late 1980s starring John Hurt that was the pop culture embodiment of all the literary theory that was floating about around the time I was in college (meta-narrative/conscious attention to the narrator; magic realism; modernization of folklore...Italo Calvino would be been proud). Borrowed a few of these from a friend on VHS. Web search show DVDs might be release in other regions (I didn't run Babelfish to confirm this :) but jeez, this would be great to have in our favorite media format around here.

Production obviously takes longer for DVD than for VHS but I don't have industry figures. One hopes there's enough market to get a shovelware release out, like Bladerunner: The Director's Cut, for a licensee to produce revenue and to satisfy the market while a premium edition of the same title is produced. For less popular titles, it's a turkey shoot.

dennis!




> On September 20, 2002 - 1:05 PM PST underdog8 wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Add my name to the clamoring for SINGING DETECTIVE. One of my all time favorites, and I was tempted to buy the VHS box set just to have it but keep holding out, hope against hope, for DVD.
>
> And, ditto for Kustarica films. UNDERGROUND is another one of my lil favorites -- completely unforgettable from the first moment on, from the first appearance by the roving Slavic band and all the chaos that comes afterwards. Anyone know why ALL of his other films (besides BCAT/WCAT) are held up?
>
> Oh and a PS: re the Muppet Show: Yes, there are quite a few more episodes out on DVD now. I just rented (from a local store, not GreenCine, ack, sorry!) a DVD that had the Peter Sellers (a classic), John Cleese and Dudley Moore episodes. Wonderful. I am quite sure GreenCine will be getting more of these very soon...
>
> e-mail them a request if you want though.
>
> Piiiiiiiiiiiigs in spaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaace!
>
> udog
> ---------------------------------

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