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Oscars
Topic by: SRhodes
Posted: February 9, 2003 - 12:20 PM PST
Last Reply: March 18, 2003 - 5:05 PM PST

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SRhodes
post #1  on February 9, 2003 - 12:20 PM PST  

The Oscar nominations will be announced at 5:30 am pacific time on Tuesday (E!, CNN, etc. will carry them live and the morning shows will have interviews with the humbled nominees).

There already has been reams written about the Oscars (David has linked to some in the news section).
Recent stuff can be found at Google News, and Yahoo has the more edited but slower full coverage along with related links.


SRhodes
post #2  on February 9, 2003 - 12:22 PM PST  

Oh and the reason I was originally prompted to start this topic, AO Scott in the NYT, As Requested, My Thoughts on the Oscars (if you don't have an account, I think cypherpunk for both username and password works).
AKrizman
post #3  on February 9, 2003 - 12:47 PM PST  
Another pre-nomination prediction:
I bet The Two Towers won't get a best picture nom.
dpowers
post #4  on February 9, 2003 - 2:20 PM PST  
> I bet The Two Towers won't get a best picture nom. <

i bet we have to listen to the music from the two towers five times on oscar night. five times.
underdog
post #5  on February 10, 2003 - 10:59 AM PST  
> On February 9, 2003 - 12:47 PM PST AKrizman wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Another pre-nomination prediction:
> I bet The Two Towers won't get a best picture nom.
> ---------------------------------

I'm with you in the cynicism department and yet I disagree on this one -- I think TWO TOWERS will get a best picture nom and multiple others...

Or a lifetime spent in Mordor if it doesn't! ;-)

My other Best Picture predictions:
THE HOURS
FAR FROM HEAVEN
GANGS OF NY
CHICAGO

These are NOT all my choices, mind you, just what I think Oscar noms will be...

But for good measure here's an slightly different list that is just as feasible:

CATCH ME IF YOU CAN (OR MINORITY REPORT)
TWO TOWERS
ANTWONE FISHER
GANGS OF NY
THE PIANIST
(except I think the Academy still thinks of Polanski as a pervert who shouldn't be allowed back "in" so the backlash may prevent it)

We'll see soon!

A lot of deserving candidates, but I know there will be at least one schmaltzy not quite deserving film on the list.

C




DLeonard
post #6  on February 10, 2003 - 4:40 PM PST  
Sure, why not?

Here's what I'm thinkin'

Chicago
Gangs of New York
The Hours
About Schmidt
Adaptation
AKrizman
post #7  on February 10, 2003 - 6:26 PM PST  
Me too - almost

Chicago
Gangs of New York
The Pianist
The Hours
About Schmidt
SRhodes
post #8  on February 11, 2003 - 5:52 AM PST  

The complete list which unfortunately isn't easy to paste (nobody seems to have told the academy webdesigners not to use all caps).
dwhudson
post #9  on February 11, 2003 - 8:38 AM PST  
Here's a sanely formatted version from the Guardian:

Complete list of Oscar nominations
Staff and agencies
Tuesday February 11, 2003

Best motion picture of the year
· Chicago
· Gangs Of New York
· The Hours
· The Lord Of The Rings: The Two Towers
· The Pianist

Achievement in directing
· Chicago - Rob Marshall
· Gangs Of New York - Martin Scorsese
· The Hours - Stephen Daldry
· The Pianist - Roman Polanski
· Talk To Her - Pedro Almodóvar

Performance by an actor in a leading role
· Adrien Brody in The Pianist
· Nicolas Cage in Adaptation
· Michael Caine in The Quiet American
· Daniel Day-Lewis in Gangs Of New York
· Jack Nicholson in About Schmidt

Performance by an actor in a supporting role
· Chris Cooper in Adaptation
· Ed Harris in The Hours
· Paul Newman in Road To Perdition
· John C Reilly In Chicago
· Christopher Walken In Catch Me If You Can

Performance by an actress in a leading role
· Salma Hayek in Frida
· Nicole Kidman in The Hours
· Diane Lane in Unfaithful
· Julianne Moore in Far From Heaven
· Renée Zellweger in Chicago

Performance by an actress in a supporting role
· Kathy Bates in About Schmidt
· Julianne Moore in The Hours
· Queen Latifah in Chicago
· Meryl Streep in Adaptation
· Catherine Zeta-Jones in Chicago

Best animated feature film of the year
· Ice Age
· Lilo & Stitch
· Spirit: Stallion Of The Cimarron
· Spirited Away
· Treasure Planet

Achievement in art direction
· Chicago; art Direction: John Myhre; set decoration: Gord Sim
· Frida; art direction: Felipe Fernandez Del Paso; set decoration: Hannia Robledo
· Gangs Of New York; art direction: Dante Ferretti; set decoration: Francesca Lo Schiavo
· The Lord Of The Rings: The Two Towers; art direction: Grant Major; set decoration: Dan Hennah And Alan Lee
· Road To Perdition; art direction: Dennis Gassner; set decoration: Nancy Haigh

Achievement in cinematography
· Chicago: Dion Beebe
· Far From Heaven: Edward Lachman
· Gangs Of New York: Michael Ballhaus
· The Pianist: Pawel Edelman
· Road To Perdition: Conrad L Hall

Achievement in costume design
· Chicago: Colleen Atwood
· Frida: Julie Weiss
· Gangs Of New York: Sandy Powell
· The Hours: Ann Roth
· The Pianist: Anna Sheppard

Best documentary feature
· Bowling For Columbine
· Daughter From Danang
· Prisoner Of Paradise
· Spellbound
· Winged Migration

Best documentary short subject
· The Collector Of Bedford Street
· Mighty Times: The Legacy Of Rosa Parks
· Twin Towers
· Why Can't We Be A Family Again?

Achievement in film editing
· Chicago: Martin Walsh
· Gangs Of New York: Thelma Schoonmaker
· The Hours: Peter Boyle
· The Lord Of The Rings: The Two Towers: Michael Horton
· The Pianist: Hervé De Luze

Best foreign language film of the year
· El Crimen Del Padre Amaro (Mexico)
· Hero (China)
· The Man Without A Past (Finland)
· Nowhere in Africa (Germany)
· Zus & Zo (The Netherlands)

Achievement in makeup · Frida: John Jackson and Beatrice De Alba
· The Time Machine: John M. Elliott, Jr and Barbara Lorenz


Achievement in music written for motion pictures (original score)
· Catch Me If You Can: John Williams
· Far From Heaven: Elmer Bernstein
· Frida: Elliot Goldenthal
· The Hours: Philip Glass
· Road To Perdition: Thomas Newman

Achievement in music written for motion pictures (original song)
· Burn It Blue from Frida; music by Elliot Goldenthal; lyric by Julie Taymor
· Father And Daughter from The Wild Thornberrys Movie; music and lyric by Paul Simon
· The Hands That Built America from Gangs Of New York; music and lyric by Bono, the Edge, Adam Clayton and Larry Mullen
· I Move On from Chicago; music by John Kander; lyric by Fred Ebb
· Lose Yourself from 8 Mile; music by Eminem, Jeff Bass and Luis Resto; lyric by Eminem


Best animated short film
· The Cathedral
· The Chubbchubbs!
· Das Rad
· Mike's New Car
· Mt Head


Best live action short film
· Fait d'hiver
· I'll Wait For The Next One... (J'attendrai Le Suivant...)
· inja (Dog)
· Johnny Flynton
· This Charming Man (Der Er En Yndig Mand)

Achievement in sound
· Chicago
· Gangs Of New York
· The Lord Of The Rings: The Two Towers
· Road To Perdition
· Spider-Man

Achievement in sound editing
· The Lord Of The Rings: The Two Towers
· Minority Report
· Road To Perdition


Achievement in visual effects
· The Lord Of The Rings: The Two Towers
· Spider-Man
· Star Wars Episode II Attack Of The Clones


Adapted screenplay
· About A Boy: screenplay by Peter Hedges and Chris Weitz & Paul Weitz
· Adaptation: screenplay by Charlie Kaufman and Donald Kaufman
· Chicago: screenplay by Bill Condon
· The Hours: screenplay by David Hare
· The Pianist: screenplay by Ronald Harwood

Original screenplay
· Far From Heaven: written by Todd Haynes
· Gangs Of New York: screenplay by Jay Cocks and Steve Zaillian and Kenneth Lonergan; story by Jay Cocks
· My Big Fat Greek Wedding: written by Nia Vardalos
· Talk To Her: written by Pedro Almodóvar
· Y Tu Mamá También: written By Carlos Cuarón and Alfonso Cuarón


dpowers
post #10  on February 11, 2003 - 8:44 AM PST  
so the two towers got six nominations, mostly techie categories. well, huh, peter jackson wasn't nominated for best director - i figured if none of the cast got nominated, he would be given credit for their performances as a group.

i'm honestly, actually shocked that mexico chose to submit the crime of father amaro over y tu mamá tambien for best foreign film. they must have known that y tu mamá had super press and industry buzz going for it but i guess they couldn't swallow it as an official national representative. or maybe people liked amaro better than it seemed.
SRhodes
post #11  on February 11, 2003 - 9:01 AM PST  

I have to run to see a screening of Charlotte Sometimes (which was nominated for 3 Independent Spirit Awards), but you can see Mike's Car which was nominated for best animated short on the Monster's Inc. DVD (I think it is on the bonus disc).

Also, Daughter from Danang which was nominated for best documentary will be on American Experience on PBS on April 7th. There also is a site from the theatrical release.

It is an intense documentary which explores a lot of interesting history. I first saw it about a year ago at a press screening for the SF Int. Asian American Film Fest (which is where I'm headed now).
underdog
post #12  on February 11, 2003 - 10:51 AM PST  
My thoughts so far...


The Best Actor category has to be one of the strongest in years; you could make a case for everyone one of those guys. I'm leaning towards Daniel Day Lewis, but won't make any bets in Vegas.

Words most likely to make me choke on my popcorn and turn a shade of purple with rage: "And for Best Animated Feature, the Oscar goes to... Treasure Planet!"
(If Spirited Away doesn't win animated feature I will throw something large at my television.)
Director: I'm *very* happy about Almodovar and Polanski; and would agree, how lame is that, no Peter Jackson?? For his towering achievement?? I mean, Rob Marshall? Come on, it's a nice job and all, but compare the two efforts. What a joke.
Sick joke: Will anyone mix up "Twin Towers" with "Two Towers" if it wins best doc short? ;)
Speaking of which, congrats to Berkeley filmmaker Gail Dolgin for the nod for Daughter from Danang
Agree about the weird snub of Y Tu Mama, replaced instead by El Crimen, which was in some ways even more controversial than Y Tu Mama! That whole category seems like a surprise to me this year since I've never even heard of the other 4 noms. Oh well, at least Y Tu Mama got a screenplay nomination.
Supporting actor: My personal fave is Chris Cooper but I bet it goes to Paul Newman as a sentimental vote (not that he wasn't good either)
Question: Did Spielberg cancel himself out with two potential nominees, or is it the Academy reflecting their bias against him as a "non artsy" filmmaker?


C/U

Eoliano
post #13  on February 11, 2003 - 11:08 AM PST  
> i'm ...shocked that mexico chose to submit the crime of father amaro over y tu mamá tambien for best foreign film.

Also lost in the shuffle were the following:

Almodovar's Talk to Her Spain.

Nanni Moretti's The Son's Room Italy

Eric Rohmer's The Lady and the Duke France

Sandra Nettelbeck's Mostly Martha Germany

Manoel de Oliveiras Im Going Home Portugal

DLeonard
post #14  on February 11, 2003 - 11:19 AM PST  
> On February 11, 2003 - 8:44 AM PST DPOWERS wrote:

> i'm honestly, actually shocked that mexico chose to submit the crime of father amaro over y tu mamá tambien for best foreign film.

It really seems absurd considering most reviews of Father Amaro were not favorable. But what is truly absurd is that Y Tu Mama Tambien wasn't nominated for Best Picture. I've seen all 5 of the nominees, and I feel that it is a better film than all 5, though they are all strong films.
dwhudson
post #15  on February 11, 2003 - 11:27 AM PST  
My initial thoughts:

Best Picture: There is nothing funky on this list. Sorry, that's just the first sentence that leapt to mind. But really, what a dusty old list this is. 2002, as so many have noted, was a pretty rich year for the movies, especially rich in fresh mainstream fare. You could easily replace Chicago or The Hours with a Far From Heaven (I certainly would have) or an Adaptation (and I guess it's getting the nod in the screenplay category since, after all, it's the screenplay that's the star), or like, DLeonard says, Tambien, and so on.

Director: What Craig said. Yes, Peter Jackson ought to be occupying Rob Marshall's spot. And get Stephen Daldry off that list. Sheesh. In his place, I'd even consider Spike Jonze, who's work with Cage, Streep and Cooper is overshadowed by that screenplay.

Actor: Gotta withhold judgment til I see Gangs, but I have a hunch the Academy will skip over Caine and Nicholson since they've been blessed before the other three are so strong and give one of those three their shot. Long-shot: Caine gets it because there are either enough anti-Weinstein votes or enough voters want to "make a statement."

Actress: Nicole is wonderful but please don't give it to her for this. They will.

Supporting actress: Streep, please.

Supporting actor: I have to see Catch Me first, but Cooper sure looks good to me.

I wonder if Conrad Hall will take the Oscar for Perdition, and if so, will there be mumbles about posthumous honors, etc.
dpowers
post #16  on February 11, 2003 - 12:32 PM PST  
nick davis's predictions. he got a lot right.

underdog8 wrote:
> The Best Actor category has to be one of the strongest in years <

yeah really!

> (If Spirited Away doesn't win animated feature I will throw something large at my television.) <

this year, if there are stars in the heavens and the roxie is doing an "up the oscars," i'm there. haven't been in a while and now i sense it is my time to return.

> Director: ... no Peter Jackson? ... Rob Marshall? Come on, [Chicago]'s a nice job and all, but compare the two efforts. What a joke. <

i heard that catherine zeta-jones's legs were even prosthetics left over from the LOTR shoot.

> [The Best Foreign Film] category seems like a surprise to me this year since I've never even heard of the other 4 noms. <

no no, you know some of them, the hero movie by zhang yimou people have been talking about here. DWH wrote about nowhere in africa as an oscar contender as part of his "berlin and beyond" comments in the daily 5 thread. and the man without a past is the new aki kaurismaki movie which was actually mentioned in passing back in may. the dutch one i don't know either.

okay wait, check out this article about how the films were selected. turns out y tu mamá wasn't eligible for a foreign film oscar this year.

> Question: Did Spielberg cancel himself out with two potential nominees, or is it the Academy reflecting their bias against him as a "non artsy" filmmaker? <

nah. look again at what was nominated. i think minority report was out of the running for looking forward; catch me if you can for being lightweight. yes chicago is another feather but now that broadway is backpedaling faster than hollywood, fosse is "serious."

eoliano wrote:
> Also lost in the shuffle were the following:

i found the actual submissions! listed by country: A - E, F - N, O - Z

> Almodovar's Talk to Her Spain. <

young director chosen instead.

> Nanni Moretti's The Son's Room Italy <

they sent pinocchio instead. hello miramax? can i have a job working for the academy of motion pictures arts and sciences? you don't handle that? oh i'm sorry, my mistake.

> Eric Rohmer's The Lady and the Duke France <

8 women, the submission, just as good.

> Sandra Nettelbeck's Mostly Martha Germany <

lots of people think nowhere in africa will win it.

> Manoel de Oliveiras Im Going Home Portugal <

portugal sent o delfim instead.
dpowers
post #17  on February 11, 2003 - 12:46 PM PST  
when i said broadway was backpedaling faster than hollywood, that was wrong. broadway has actually turned itself around and is riding the bicycle backwards.

DLeonard wrote:
> But what is truly absurd is that Y Tu Mama Tambien wasn't nominated for Best Picture. <

it was eligible for this, but as unlikely as prez bush quoting bill burroughs at his inauguration. roots! roots! it's about roots.

dpowers
post #18  on February 11, 2003 - 12:49 PM PST  
right in case anyone missed this inside that huge ugly post i just did, the film experience has posted all the officialsubmissions for the best foreign film oscar.

listed by country: A - E, F - N, O - Z
SRhodes
post #19  on February 11, 2003 - 3:27 PM PST  

Aaron Barnhart writes it is great that Michael Moore was nominated for Bowling, but Daughter should win. He also says there is a chance that Spellbound (which played at the SF Indie Doc fest last year)might win.

Nowhere in Africa is scheduled to open in the Bay Area on April 5th. The Man Without A Past will be out on April 4th (though that may just be NYC and LA) and it has gotten a lot of praise at festivals.

Paul Simon wasn't nominated for the Graduate, but he got his first nomination for a song in the Wild Thornberries Movie.

dpowers
post #20  on February 12, 2003 - 1:05 PM PST  
i don't want to know who's going to win. i want to see what people are thinking about wearing! i wonder if that's on the web somewhere. see, you could do it with flash, a little "dress the nominees" page, paper-doll style. or just leave them naked!
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