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Oscars 2009
Topic by: Cinenaut
Posted: February 20, 2009 - 8:43 AM PST
Last Reply: March 8, 2009 - 7:55 AM PDT

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Cinenaut
post #1  on February 20, 2009 - 8:43 AM PST  
Is anybody planning to watch this? Do you think Hugh Jackman will do a good job?

I watched Frozen River last night. Melissa Leo gave a great performance. She's always been great, since back in her Homicide: Life On the Street days.

I read an article yesterday about the lengths the Academy had to go to to figure out what to do if Heath Ledger wins an Oscar. It would normally go to his daughter, but she's only three years old, so she can't sign the contract that all Oscar recipients have to sign: the one in which you promise not to hock your Oscar. So, they came up with this plan: Michelle Williams can hang on to it until their daughter is 18, and then she can either sign the contract, or Oscar goes back to the Academy.
weezy
post #2  on February 20, 2009 - 12:06 PM PST  
Not only am I planning to see this, I'm helping Underdog out with the GreenCine Live Blog Event!. I hope you'll join us there this Sunday evening. Last year was a really fun event, Aaron Hillis and Erin Donovan never fail to crack me up.

I have high hopes for Hugh Jackman. I think with his theater background he'll put on a good show, I just hope they don't make him play up his debonair charms to the point of being cheesy. It would be so freaking awesome if he could come out in his Wolverine gear for a minute, but, that will sadly never happen.

I was thinking the speech from Marketa from Once today and was wondering who could possible give another heart felt speech like that at this year's awards. Nothing came to mind.

I would have been more disappointed about the Academy turning the Best Original Song performances into a medley if there were a greater variety of songs nominated.

Think you can accurately guess all of this year's winners? Well the Auteurs are giving away $10,000, collectively, to those who guess all of them right! Rules and more info here.
underdog
post #3  on February 20, 2009 - 3:14 PM PST  
> On February 20, 2009 - 12:06 PM PST weezy wrote:
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> I have high hopes for Hugh Jackman. I think with his theater background he'll put on a good show, I just hope they don't make him play up his debonair charms to the point of being cheesy. It would be so freaking awesome if he could come out in his Wolverine gear for a minute, but, that will sadly never happen.

I hope he fares well, too. He's very charming, I just don't expect it to be as funny as some of the ones year's past. But there's only so many times you can subject the world to American comedians I guess.

>
> I was thinking the speech from Marketa from Once today and was wondering who could possible give another heart felt speech like that at this year's awards. Nothing came to mind.

Maybe the aforementioned Michele Williams for Heath Ledger -- or whoever picks up his Oscar on stage? Or some sleeper person from a smaller category, or foreign or documentary.

>
> I would have been more disappointed about the Academy turning the Best Original Song performances into a medley if there were a greater variety of songs nominated.
>


Bruce Springsteen got jobbed!

Yes, join us for Oscar live blog, will be some cool people on the panel this year.
Vanamonde
post #4  on February 21, 2009 - 11:40 AM PST  
I will it - it is the only award show that I never miss. But not live. My analog TV died of old age (I bought in 1984!) last fall and now I watch video only on my computer. My connection is too slow for streaming, so I only watch what I can download. So, it will be delayed about a week or two.

Which is also the reason that I am avoiding the discussion on "Heroes".

But mostly, I watch DVD's!! They rule!
Vanamonde
post #5  on February 21, 2009 - 11:55 AM PST  
OH, and I bet Hugh Jackman will be FABULOUS! The man has skills and I just hope he has good comedy writers and then he will deliver. He certainly will outdo Letterman but probably not Whoopi or Ellen.

I think that Ellen was my favorite Oscar host since Bob Hope quit. For many reasons but most of all that one line:

"Is there anything that would piss off the Taliban more than a lesbian hosting a room full of Jews?"

Priceless!
underdog
post #6  on February 22, 2009 - 1:42 PM PST  
I'm surprised there's nowhere to watch the Oscars live online. ABC.com doesn't seem to offer it. They could, with commercials, you'd think. There are some illicit sites offering video feeds of it but I can't officially recommend them. Well, there's always our live blog, Van! I'll announce the winners as they happen.
doozer
post #7  on February 22, 2009 - 2:10 PM PST  
Come on guys, any projected winners? Any fingers crossed for anybody? I personally hope Heath Ledger doesn't win best supporting. No offense to him, and RIP and everything...but there is someone else I strongly believe is more deserving.
Cinenaut
post #8  on February 23, 2009 - 10:11 AM PST  
The camera zooming in and out during the memorial sequence was extremely irritating!

It would be much better for the TV viewing audience if they'd just switch to a full screen image like they used to.

weezy
post #9  on February 23, 2009 - 11:01 AM PST  
Agreed! I thought in general the camera work was poor this year. It seemed like every time the camera looked out into the audience it was the same shot of Meryl Streep and her daughter in the front row or a wide shot of the whole audience. The venue looked so amazing I wanted SuperBowl-style overhead swooping shots, and more crystal curtain action!

During our live blog someone said that on their tiny TV they couldn't even see who was being commemorated in the memorial sequence.

Also, the way they pieced together the montage for the best-picture noms in the last sequence was very confusing. Lots of movies that didn't seem related to one another at all being edited together like they definitely were related.

Overall, I like how the Oscars tried some new tricks this year with the intros, but not all of them were successful. I was a little sad no animated characters made an appearance "on stage". I would have loved to see Wall-E up there. Kung Fu Panda would have helped saved Jennifer Aniston and Jack Black's horrible scripted intro for sure.

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> The camera zooming in and out during the memorial sequence was extremely irritating!
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> It would be much better for the TV viewing audience if they'd just switch to a full screen image like they used to.
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Cinenaut
post #10  on February 23, 2009 - 9:12 PM PST  
You're right. I think the camerawork was putting me subconsciously on edge through a lot of the show.

After just having watched her gritty performance in Frozen River the other night, I totally did not recognize Melissa Leo at the Oscars.

> On February 23, 2009 - 11:01 AM PST weezy wrote:
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> Agreed! I thought in general the camera work was poor this year. It seemed like every time the camera looked out into the audience it was the same shot of Meryl Streep and her daughter in the front row or a wide shot of the whole audience. The venue looked so amazing I wanted SuperBowl-style overhead swooping shots, and more crystal curtain action!
>
> During our live blog someone said that on their tiny TV they couldn't even see who was being commemorated in the memorial sequence.
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> Also, the way they pieced together the montage for the best-picture noms in the last sequence was very confusing. Lots of movies that didn't seem related to one another at all being edited together like they definitely were related.
>
> Overall, I like how the Oscars tried some new tricks this year with the intros, but not all of them were successful. I was a little sad no animated characters made an appearance "on stage". I would have loved to see Wall-E up there. Kung Fu Panda would have helped saved Jennifer Aniston and Jack Black's horrible scripted intro for sure.
>
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> > The camera zooming in and out during the memorial sequence was extremely irritating!
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> > It would be much better for the TV viewing audience if they'd just switch to a full screen image like they used to.
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DLeonard
post #11  on February 23, 2009 - 11:35 PM PST  
> On February 22, 2009 - 2:10 PM PST doozer wrote:
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> Come on guys, any projected winners? Any fingers crossed for anybody? I personally hope Heath Ledger doesn't win best supporting. No offense to him, and RIP and everything...but there is someone else I strongly believe is more deserving.
> ---------------------------------

Doozer, who was more deserving? Right now I can't even think who the other noms were. Oh yeah, Josh Brolin was one.
DLeonard
post #12  on February 23, 2009 - 11:37 PM PST  
Also, last night's show contained one of the most inspired moments I have ever seen on an Oscar show; Jackman's interpretive dance for "The Reader".

" I didn't see The Reader."
doozer
post #13  on February 24, 2009 - 11:25 AM PST  
> On February 23, 2009 - 11:35 PM PST DLeonard wrote:
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> Doozer, who was more deserving? Right now I can't even think who the other noms were. Oh yeah, Josh Brolin was one.
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While Tropic Thunder wasn't a great movie, Robert Downey Jr. was great in it and I really think he should have won. If not him, Philip Seymour Hoffman for Doubt.
underdog
post #14  on February 24, 2009 - 11:36 AM PST  
> On February 23, 2009 - 11:37 PM PST DLeonard wrote:
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> Also, last night's show contained one of the most inspired moments I have ever seen on an Oscar show; Jackman's interpretive dance for "The Reader".
>
> " I didn't see The Reader."
> ---------------------------------

I loved that too! At first I was worried it wasn't supposed to be funny and we had another Rob Lowe + Snow White on our hands, but it was clearly tongue and cheek. Like, if Sprockets re-created The Reader.

I thought the best moments were Sean Penn winning and his speech, and some of the actors circle saluting the acting nominees -- though those went on a bit too long and I missed seeing clips of the nominees in their films. I also liked the Pineapple Express short.

What did you think of Ben Stiller's impersonation of Joaquin Phoenix? I thought it was pretty funny as it's own thing but seemed to kind of deride the cinematography category he was there to announce. A lot of the scripted stuff overall was pretty bad.
troublemaker
post #15  on February 24, 2009 - 12:47 PM PST  
I'll be honest and say I think I enjoyed the GC live-blog more than I did the Oscars. It was much more entertaining reading the snarky comments during the chat then the actual show itself. And after seeing Mickey Rourke's speech at the Spirit Awards, I wish I had seen that bare bones ceremony instead.

Plus, count me as appalled by the omission of Don LaFontaine from the memorial montage.
Catullus
post #16  on February 26, 2009 - 7:51 AM PST  
> On February 24, 2009 - 11:25 AM PST doozer wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> > On February 23, 2009 - 11:35 PM PST DLeonard wrote:
> > ---------------------------------
> > Doozer, who was more deserving? Right now I can't even think who the other noms were. Oh yeah, Josh Brolin was one.
> > ---------------------------------
>
>
> While Tropic Thunder wasn't a great movie, Robert Downey Jr. was great in it and I really think he should have won. If not him, Philip Seymour Hoffman for Doubt.
> ---------------------------------

lol no, tropic thunder was crap and robert downey jrs blackface was not deserving of any awards, he was not that great either.

playing a stereotype isn't hard.
weezy
post #17  on February 26, 2009 - 10:31 AM PST  
I was a little disappointed Robert Downey Jr. didn't get any noms for his performance in Iron Man at ANY awards. Thought maybe he would have at least had a chance at SAG. Twas a much better performance for me, than in Tropic Thunder.

> lol no, tropic thunder was crap and robert downey jrs blackface was not deserving of any awards, he was not that great either.
>

Was anyone else disappointed all the stars played it safe this year for style, with the notable exception of Micky Rourke? I thought Penelope Cruz's vintage dress was outstanding, and Ann Hathaway always looks gorgeous, but, all the rest had the same look of structured gowns with assymetrical draping. No crazy Bjork or Cher dress for this year. Or perhaps I just didn't watch enough of the E! pre-awards show bit. I'll wait till my next trip to the dentist to see what the style gods thought of this year's awards or take your word for it.
doozer
post #18  on February 26, 2009 - 10:36 AM PST  
> On February 26, 2009 - 7:51 AM PST Catullus wrote:
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>
> lol no, tropic thunder was crap and robert downey jrs blackface was not deserving of any awards, he was not that great either.
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> playing a stereotype isn't hard.
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lol yea, like I said Tropic Thunder wasn't a great movie. Robert Downey Jr. and Tom Cruise were the only redeeming factors. Robert Downey Jr. did a fine job, and he's a great actor all the time. They talked about Heath Ledgers legacy. Oh really, what's that again? Brokeback Mountain, 10 things I Hate About You? Well we all know The Order and A Knights Tale are the most epic movies of all time. That's some legacy. Stacked up the two actors don't even compare.

Here's some irony. Hollywood scorned Robert Downey Jr. for his addiction(s) and then turned around and gave an Oscar to the guy who OD'd.
underdog
post #19  on February 26, 2009 - 10:42 AM PST  
I thought Tropic Thunder no classic but often hilarious. So we agree to disagree I guess. And I thought Downey playing an Australian pretending to be African American was damn challenging, actually. I heard he spent a lot of time on the set in character because otherwise he was afraid he'd lose the character(s). His "full retard" monologue at Ben Stiller was quite inspired, I thought. It's a silly movie but definitely gave me some belly laughs. But I agree with Weezy, he was especially good in Iron Man, a movie that was all but totally overlooked by the Academy. I guess if they were gonna overlook Dark Knight, then Iron Man was definitely not gonna get any love, but it's underrated. Ditto Hellboy II.

I heard the film that one foreign language, the Japanese film Departures, won because it made more of the older academy voters who watched all of those nominees cry. The more tears the more votes I guess. Hard to believe it's better than The Class or Waltz with Bashir. That category seems a farce to me every year.
doozer
post #20  on February 26, 2009 - 11:29 AM PST  
It seems like the Academy passes over people who they expect will be up again the following year...or they give Oscars to make up for not giving one the previous year. Russell Crowe for example. He didn't win one for The Insider, in which he was amazing, but he got one the following year for something else. Maybe Robert Downey Jr. will snag best actor for The Soloist or Sherlock Holmes next year. More likely The Soloist.

The whole Oscars seem like a farce to me honestly, and I like how they made fun of themselves as much as they did this year (like when Jack Black said he does a Dreamworks picture but puts his money on Pixar). I just wish they'd go beyond poking fun at themselves and fix some of those things.
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