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topic: Star Wreck - In the Pirkinning |
Cugat
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post #2
on October 2, 2005 - 5:29 AM PDT
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| OK, I'll bite... I want to hear what Klingon with a Finnish accent sounds like... |
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Cugat
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post #3
on October 2, 2005 - 11:44 AM PDT
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> On October 2, 2005 - 5:29 AM PDT pooja wrote:
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> OK, I'll bite... I want to hear what Klingon with a Finnish accent sounds like...
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Now to see if you acknowledge my existance ever again... |
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pooja
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post #4
on October 2, 2005 - 1:21 PM PDT
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I'm still here, and I must say I missed all the Babylon 5 references... I watched a lot of Star Trek but Babylon was more geared to boys, I think. I want to know what Woozy thought of it. It was funny how they made fun of the Russians. I liked the song at the end. Very nordic.
SPOILERS! (Like it matters)
All I can say is, if you only had enough power to beam 3 people off the bridge before the ship crashed, would YOU take along the android or the Klingon and leave the sexy leather-sheathed female helmsperson to die? The real Captain Kirk would NEVER do that! How would he perpetuate the species? Captain Kirk would ask himself that, because that's how DEEPLY he cares about humanity. |
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woozy
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post #5
on October 2, 2005 - 4:06 PM PDT
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>> I want to know what Woozy thought of it.
*slightly paranoid* What I thought of what? ST, Babylon 5, the parody, or the space opera tv genre in general? And why do you want to know what *I* thought.
Actually I'm embarrassed to say I haven't actually experimented with bittorrent yet, so I didn't see the parody yet.
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Cugat
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post #6
on October 2, 2005 - 5:14 PM PDT
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> On October 2, 2005 - 1:21 PM PDT pooja wrote:
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> I'm still here, and I must say I missed all the Babylon 5 references... I watched a lot of Star Trek but Babylon was more geared to boys, I think.
Well, a boy did write it.
Actually, since people keep calling it a space soap opera, and soap operas are mainly a female thing.
Actually I have the set, if you're careful with discs and on the home-city of GreenCine I can consider lending them.
> SPOILERS! (Like it matters)
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> All I can say is, if you only had enough power to beam 3 people off the bridge before the ship crashed, would YOU take along the android or the Klingon and leave the sexy leather-sheathed female helmsperson to die? The real Captain Kirk would NEVER do that! How would he perpetuate the species? Captain Kirk would ask himself that, because that's how DEEPLY he cares about humanity.
I caught that pretty quickly too, if anything I'd throw some startrek technobabble into the mix and try to get two copies of her down there with me.
If she ends up split into good and evil, or normal and anti, I think that'd still be quite tolerable. At least as episode material goes.
Woozy wrote: Actually I'm embarrassed to say I haven't actually experimented with bittorrent yet, so I didn't see the parody yet.
Grab a client, Bittornado is my usual choice for staying simple. Install, then go to a torrent link on the website, click it, if it asks it'd be really simple if it opened the .torrent driectly from the site. The torrent client will pop up with a progress bar and some speed throttling sliders, and futzing with them won't kill you, so have fun.
It downloads out-of-order, so you'll prolly wanna wait for it to complete to try playing the file. Feel free to be stingy on the uploading, I put up an extra two copies myself. Though if download is going slow and you arent firewalling the bittorrent port, it may be upload speed holding your download down (it actually can hurt speed in either direction).
The download window stays open after it finishes to push the file up to others, killing the window stops that and totally closes the client. |
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woozy
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post #7
on October 2, 2005 - 5:42 PM PDT
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> If she ends up split into good and evil, or normal and anti, I think that'd still be quite tolerable.
In women this is called madonna/whore. |
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Cugat
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post #8
on October 2, 2005 - 5:46 PM PDT
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> On October 2, 2005 - 5:42 PM PDT woozy wrote:
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> > If she ends up split into good and evil, or normal and anti, I think that'd still be quite tolerable.
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> In women this is called madonna/whore.
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I don't recall startrek having a teleporter accident split someone quite that way before...
But that sounds preferable to having one constantly trying to torture/kill you, or if they're effective fighters - killing each other. |
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woozy
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post #9
on October 2, 2005 - 6:11 PM PDT
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Yep. This experience with Bittorrent was much like all my earlier ones. Takes two hours to download, I check back every half hour or so and see it stalled waiting for a response to a dumb dialog box. Then when played there's no visuals and warnings that parts of the file are unplayable.
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Cugat
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post #10
on October 2, 2005 - 6:38 PM PDT
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> On October 2, 2005 - 6:11 PM PDT woozy wrote:
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> Yep. This experience with Bittorrent was much like all my earlier ones. Takes two hours to download, I check back every half hour or so and see it stalled waiting for a response to a dumb dialog box. Then when played there's no visuals and warnings that parts of the file are unplayable.
Wow, paying off some bad karma? I don't know what would pop up mid transfer to stop it except an out of disk warning (or maybe a BSOD, since I'm a big windows fan). If the file wasn't downloaded fully there will be holes, torrent is supposed to be good at resuming, I look forward to hearing how that fails for you...
Lack of visuals may just be a crap video player. Throw it at VLC and see how it goes. |
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woozy
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post #11
on October 2, 2005 - 8:18 PM PDT
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> Wow, paying off some bad karma?
I'm not sure which is a more uplifting philosophy; existantialism and I'm just really unlucky, or karma and I was some truly horrible person in a previous life.
I don't know what would pop up mid transfer to stop it except an out of disk warning (or maybe a BSOD, since I'm a big windows fan).
Actually my last attempt at bittorrent was much worse. In both cases they froze my entire computer so that it took a half an hour to restart (the power off button stopped working) but in this case I had a file when I came backe.
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> Lack of visuals may just be a crap video player.
Or not having bothered to download VidX...
Finnish humor takes a while to get used to. They had Babylon 5 down pretty well.
An hour and 43 minute satire is a bit much for a satire isn't it?
And I'm still paranoid about why pooja wanted *my* take on it. I don't believe I've ever said anything about being a Star Trek or Babylon 5 fan.
> > SPOILERS! (Like it matters)
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> > All I can say is, if you only had enough power to beam 3 people off the bridge before the ship crashed, would YOU take along the android or the Klingon and leave the sexy leather-sheathed female helmsperson to die? The real Captain Kirk would NEVER do that! How would he perpetuate the species? Captain Kirk would ask himself that, because that's how DEEPLY he cares about humanity.
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> I caught that pretty quickly too, if anything I'd throw some startrek technobabble into the mix and try to get two copies of her down there with me.
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I think "Bro's before Ho's" may be his, and his fellow gynaphobes' motto. To the slashers' delight, Spock *did* chastise Kirk is ST5 "Please Captain, not in front of the Klingons" |
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Cugat
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post #12
on October 2, 2005 - 8:36 PM PDT
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> On October 2, 2005 - 8:18 PM PDT woozy wrote:
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> > I don't know what would pop up mid transfer to stop it except an out of disk warning (or maybe a BSOD, since I'm a big windows fan).
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> Actually my last attempt at bittorrent was much worse. In both cases they froze my entire computer so that it took a half an hour to restart (the power off button stopped working) but in this case I had a file when I came backe.
If your system is freezing over torrents there might be something seriously wrong with the TCP/IP stack on your system.
> > Lack of visuals may just be a crap video player.
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> Or not having bothered to download VidX...
VLC doesn't care, its great that way.
> Finnish humor takes a while to get used to. They had Babylon 5 down pretty well.
As I'm a bit of a B5 fan and I have the whole series, seen all the movies, etc. I think their take on B5 was rather craptastic. Not one child was killed on the station, no aliens were complaining about their last barber, and how bester got on a victory class destroyer (let alone in command of one) baffles me. That and putting a few warlock class destroyers in the mix instead would have been utterly awesome.
> An hour and 43 minute satire is a bit much for a satire isn't it?
They spent 7 years on it, I'd be pretty sorry for them if it was a half hour.
> And I'm still paranoid about why pooja wanted *my* take on it. I don't believe I've ever said anything about being a Star Trek or Babylon 5 fan.
Yeah, it is creepy, its like shes part of a conspiracy, whats your take on it? |
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pooja
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post #13
on October 2, 2005 - 8:58 PM PDT
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> On October 2, 2005 - 8:18 PM PDT woozy wrote:
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> And I'm still paranoid about why pooja wanted *my* take on it. I don't believe I've ever said anything about being a Star Trek or Babylon 5 fan.
What, wasn't it obvious? It was pretty early in the film, when Pirk and Info and Dwarf are sitting at a table and Pirk starts explaining his plan... he pulls out what he thinks is Tieda, a science magazine, and instead it's LOLLO, a magazine featuring big boobies. So I thought you'd enjoy it, or at least have a pithy comment or two. I thought you knew about the WWW and Sci-Fi and all since your profile says your website is some kind of internet business or something... I didn't think you'd need several hours to get bittorrent to work. We have a bunch of networked Macs of various vintages (one of my housemates has the newest G5 but I only have an older G4 that I bought refurbished) in our house, but we've never had trouble with bittorrent. I use the original bittorrent client and my housemate uses Azureus I think.
So I apologize if I assumed too much and made you overwork yourself over this silly film. I thought you'd have a T1 line or something and take a minute to download the thing. I hope you didn't spend the whole day trying to download it...
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woozy
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post #14
on October 2, 2005 - 9:01 PM PDT
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> If your system is freezing over torrents there might be something seriously wrong with the TCP/IP stack on your system.
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I don't think so. I think my computer, myself, and the concepts of torrents, or having a misunderstanding. I'm one of those type of people who absolutely can not do *anything* unless I understand it and so's my computer. I think we are having a battle of wills with the universe since neither of us exactly understand how bit torrent works.
> VLC doesn't care, its great that way.
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> > Finnish humor takes a while to get used to. They had Babylon 5 down pretty well.
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> I think their take on B5 was rather craptastic. ...
I meant their posturing and delivery.
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> > An hour and 43 minute satire is a bit much for a satire isn't it?
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> They spent 7 years on it, I'd be pretty sorry for them if it was a half hour.
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Well, I'd say something about spending 7 years on this ... except I've got even less to show for my last seven years.
> > And I'm still paranoid about why pooja wanted *my* take on it. I don't believe I've ever said anything about being a Star Trek or Babylon 5 fan.
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> Yeah, it is creepy, its like shes part of a conspiracy, whats your take on it?
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Well, I *do* know the entire universe is out to get me, but I was just hoping pooja might be one of the exceptions.
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pooja
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post #15
on October 2, 2005 - 9:11 PM PDT
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> On October 2, 2005 - 8:36 PM PDT Cugat wrote:
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> > > Lack of visuals may just be a crap video player.
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> > Or not having bothered to download VidX...
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> VLC doesn't care, its great that way.
I have VLC and I use it for some difficult files... It seems to work better with MKVs. But for playing most of the TV shows and Bollywood and stuff I use MPlayer because I like the smooth fast forward/reverse feature using the arrow keys. Neither VLC or Quicktime Player has that ability, which is really handy for skipping over looooong opening credits or theme songs that you've already heard a dozen times. Actually, I use an interface called djo player which I think uses the MPlayer as its engine, but has a cute penguin icon that "looks surprised" when you drag a movie file to it.
> > And I'm still paranoid about why pooja wanted *my* take on it. I don't believe I've ever said anything about being a Star Trek or Babylon 5 fan.
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> Yeah, it is creepy, its like shes part of a conspiracy, whats your take on it?
Oh, you boys and your conspiracy theories! Who really killed JFK? Is the government covering up evidence of alien visitors? Where did all the Homeland Security funding actually go?
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Cugat
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post #16
on October 2, 2005 - 9:17 PM PDT
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> On October 2, 2005 - 9:01 PM PDT woozy wrote:
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> > If your system is freezing over torrents there might be something seriously wrong with the TCP/IP stack on your system.
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> I don't think so. I think my computer, myself, and the concepts of torrents, or having a misunderstanding. I'm one of those type of people who absolutely can not do *anything* unless I understand it and so's my computer. I think we are having a battle of wills with the universe since neither of us exactly understand how bit torrent works.
Start a thread asking about it, I'll fill it with answers.
Frankly though, the bittorrent client should be the only one that needs to know the details, and the computer shouldn't be freezing if its running 2k or XP (pretty much regardless of the app).
> > > Finnish humor takes a while to get used to. They had Babylon 5 down pretty well.
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> > I think their take on B5 was rather craptastic. ...
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> I meant their posturing and delivery.
I dunno, seemed very off to me, chaotic timing perhaps.
> > > An hour and 43 minute satire is a bit much for a satire isn't it?
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> > They spent 7 years on it, I'd be pretty sorry for them if it was a half hour.
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> Well, I'd say something about spending 7 years on this ... except I've got even less to show for my last seven years.
Been a pretty slow near-decade here too. At least my geekage has kept me technically up to date. :-)
> > > And I'm still paranoid about why pooja wanted *my* take on it. I don't believe I've ever said anything about being a Star Trek or Babylon 5 fan.
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> > Yeah, it is creepy, its like shes part of a conspiracy, whats your take on it?
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> Well, I *do* know the entire universe is out to get me, but I was just hoping pooja might be one of the exceptions.
Well, maybe she only works on the conspiracy part-time. |
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Cugat
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post #17
on October 2, 2005 - 9:25 PM PDT
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> On October 2, 2005 - 9:11 PM PDT pooja wrote:
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> > On October 2, 2005 - 8:36 PM PDT Cugat wrote:
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> > > > Lack of visuals may just be a crap video player.
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> > > Or not having bothered to download VidX...
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> > VLC doesn't care, its great that way.
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> I have VLC and I use it for some difficult files... It seems to work better with MKVs. But for playing most of the TV shows and Bollywood and stuff I use MPlayer because I like the smooth fast forward/reverse feature using the arrow keys. Neither VLC or Quicktime Player has that ability, which is really handy for skipping over looooong opening credits or theme songs that you've already heard a dozen times. Actually, I use an interface called djo player which I think uses the MPlayer as its engine, but has a cute penguin icon that "looks surprised" when you drag a movie file to it.
I've tried MPlayer repeatedly, it has stabbed back at me repeatedly. Needs a major attitude adjustment (is that buried in the settings somewhere?).
> > > And I'm still paranoid about why pooja wanted *my* take on it. I don't believe I've ever said anything about being a Star Trek or Babylon 5 fan.
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> > Yeah, it is creepy, its like shes part of a conspiracy, whats your take on it?
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> Oh, you boys and your conspiracy theories! Who really killed JFK? Is the government covering up evidence of alien visitors? Where did all the Homeland Security funding actually go?
> ;-p
JFK was killed by Captian Pirk, all homeland security funding is going towards paying Pirk's "protection" fee.
Did we take a sharp turn off-topic a few miles back? :-) |
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woozy
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post #18
on October 2, 2005 - 9:25 PM PDT
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> On October 2, 2005 - 8:58 PM PDT pooja wrote:
> What, wasn't it obvious? he pulls out what he thinks is Tieda, a science magazine, and instead it's LOLLO, a magazine featuring big boobies. So I thought you'd enjoy it, or at least have a pithy comment or two.
Yes, but it wasn't *all* about boobies. In my life I've always managed to keep my boobie mags hidden. In fact, a rather embarrassing incident of the other sort occured to me in he school in that one of my ... well, I can't actually call him a friend, as I didn't have friends in high school so much as a serious of random people who'd assume I'd be of some benefit to them for reasons I never understood, and this ... compatriot... was a bit of a macho pig for my taste and frequently cracked raunchy sexist jokes that left me a little discomforted. So one day he grabbed my binder and out slipped ... my latest issue of The Baum Bugle featuring rare "Wizard of Oz" paper-dolls. A bit embarrassing.
Actually, my favorite scene was when one of the starships took a hit and a row of women in classic Trek miniskirt uniforms all jumped in unison with a shriek.
>>I thought you knew about the WWW
... mmmmmaybe...
and Sci-Fi
... maybe but I never attempted to cultivate that impression...
> and all since your profile says your website is some kind of internet business or something...
Well, yes...
> I didn't think you'd need several hours to get bittorrent to work.
Well, today was just one of those days. Actually, I'm very ancient and very old school about the web. I designed my first web page in 1994 (actually in those days it was easier to get a server running than to get a browser running). Anyway, I hadn't really played with bit torrent before. The first time I tried to run it, the windows version was very buggy so I didn't bother again untill I had a good reason. This time... well, it actually went fine but I assumed it went badly.
> So I apologize if I assumed too much and made you overwork yourself over this silly film. I thought you'd have a T1 line or something and take a minute to download the thing. I hope you didn't spend the whole day trying to download it...
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I was a bit surprised how long it took to download. I thought bittorrent was supposed to be fast. Well, I don't know. I think one of the torrents had the weird dialog box but on the whole it seemed to be using the slowest of my upload time rather than the fastest of my download.
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Cugat
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post #19
on October 2, 2005 - 9:33 PM PDT
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On October 2, 2005 - 9:25 PM PDT woozy wrote:
> I was a bit surprised how long it took to download. I thought bittorrent was supposed to be fast. Well, I don't know. I think one of the torrents had the weird dialog box but on the whole it seemed to be using the slowest of my upload time rather than the fastest of my download.
Well, it often depends. Download speed tends to reflect everyone else's upload speeds, as modified by the "social" interactions between clients, seeding ratios, wether your system is being autistic towards clients spontaneously offering you data, if your upload speeds are tapped out causing delays in data reciept notifications, etc. |
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woozy
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post #20
on October 2, 2005 - 9:36 PM PDT
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> > Well, I'd say something about spending 7 years on this ... except I've got even less to show for my last seven years.
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> Been a pretty slow near-decade here too. At least my geekage has kept me technically up to date. :-)
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I actually let my geekage keep me *out* of date. After years of building my computers and watching my friends install the absolute earliest of every alpha-version of kitchen-ware with the result of having a big monstrosity of buggy stuff that with constant tweekage and huge amounts of money runs benchmarks blindingly fast but overheats and has bizaar memory leaks when actually used. It took me ten years, but I discovered if you wait ten years you can get astonishing laptops that run just fine out of the box.
Actually, I've always been a *theory* and *idea* geek, over hardware geek, and a librarian and information fanatic over computer and web extensions geek. Give me a MiniSQL and some Perl and an NCSA server... |
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