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Anime shows we'll never see licensed in America
Topic by: OKhan1
Posted: January 25, 2004 - 3:39 AM PST
Last Reply: June 4, 2005 - 11:15 PM PDT

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author topic: Anime shows we'll never see licensed in America
OKhan1
post #1  on January 25, 2004 - 3:39 AM PST  
Why? In a word, AGE. Despite the record number of titles available in the US market, few shows (excluding the major ones like Yamato and Macross) older than 15 years are available. Another reason, LONGEVITY. Commiting to a standard 26 episode series is one thing, its totally another when you've picked up a show with over a 100 episodes (one of the reasons MANGA video was unable to continue with "Fist of the Northstar," never mind poor marketting and awful dubbing). Heres my list of anime TV series which should have been licensed long ago.

Future Boy Conan (26 episodes): Miyazaki's first full TV series, and IMHO his finest work before he shifted to anime feature films. Its a mystery to me why, despite a huge fanbase in the US the series is STILL unavailable.

Space Pirate Captain Harlock (46 episodes): You would think with his numerous apperances in the Galaxy Express 999 movies, Arcadia of my Youth and a slew of Matsumoto titles that this 1977 classic series would be available by now. I've been pestering Animeigo for years to pick it up, if any company would do it, it would be them. Hey, watch Arcadia of my Youth and tell me you dont want to see more of Harlock.

Galaxy Express 999 (116 episodes) : I dont know why VIZ hasnt released the 2 movies on DVDs yet. Galaxy Express 999 has a solid fan base which would be more than willing to fork out good money for this show. A Macross style pre-order is just whats needed.

Ashita no Joe (73 episodes) : There is NO way I see this 1970 megahit series become licensed. I WANT to be proved wrong on this. Hands down, this show had THE best character development I've ever seen. Notoriously bold in its story content and realism.

Yes, there are many other shows I could list, but of all of them I want to see the above mentioned. Thankully most are available in the form of fansubs and Hong Kong DVDs, but frankly I've always wanted to see these titles licensed and widely distributed.
hamano
post #2  on January 25, 2004 - 8:23 AM PST  
So no hope for Hikaru no Go? 75 episodes plus a New Year Special, but it IS pretty new. I guess Candy Candy won't ever be ported to R1 DVD.

I don't know if length is such a limiting factor though. Cardcaptor Sakura went on for a good while, as has Sailor Moon in its various guises (although Sailor Stars will probably never see the light of day here).

There's just so much material out there (I saw 5 new shows in Japan, and those were just kid's shows) that a lot of the decisions to lisence them probably depends on overseas marketing efforts by the Japanese producers... some committee at Bandai or Pioneer decides which of their properties are likely to do well in American, and markets those to American execs...
cryptoc
post #3  on January 25, 2004 - 9:08 AM PST  
In a word, TOPIC: I know of at least one case where the subject matter is way over the top of what American censors can tolerate: Narutaru. I don't want to spoil it for anyone, so I'll just say it gets psychotically cruel, and it involves mostly elementary and middle school kids. Makes Now and Then, Here and There look tame in comparison. Also, the most misadvertised show ever with a cutesy opening sequence and aired on Kids Station in Japan, and frequently compared to Pokemon based on the first few eps. The US manga translators/distributors actually had to stop work on the project once it took its decisive turn for the worse.

That said, what holds most series up is budget. Thanks to this wierd trans-pacific licensing scheme that doesn't have the Japanese distributors getting part of the profit, they hold out for more money on many of the very good shows. Consequently, few if any American distributors can afford to buy them at the prices they command, and when they do buy it's often only for a season. Memories is a splendid film with three shorts that has been out for about a decade now, and no one has been able to pay for it. Naruto is still unlicensed. I don't know about Jungle wa Itsumo Hale Nochi Guu but I reckon that's the problem there too.
Cheekytenshi
post #4  on January 26, 2004 - 4:11 PM PST  
Kodacha (Child's play == cant remember the actual jap title) == I've seen some fansubbed version only up to 38. Hoping it'll get picked up but I've been hearing stories that it will never get picked up. :(
name0000
post #5  on January 26, 2004 - 7:04 PM PST  
Legend of Galactic Heroes

I paid like $120 for the Taiwan 13 disc version and it feel alot already. LOL

(I have excuse because I want the manderin dub. :) )
OKhan1
post #6  on January 27, 2004 - 1:14 AM PST  
> On January 26, 2004 - 7:04 PM PST name0000 wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Legend of Galactic Heroes

Thanks for reminding me, I forgot to list L.O.G.H. I think many so called fans would find the complex politics of the show "boring."
>
> I paid like $120 for the Taiwan 13 disc version and it feel alot already. LOL

Tell me, how is the quality of the english subtitles ? I'll probably end up buying the Hong Kong version, any information on its quality and such would be much appreciated.
dpowers
post #7  on January 27, 2004 - 10:06 AM PST  
and how many eps per disc...?
BBendall
post #8  on January 27, 2004 - 10:13 AM PST  
Doraemon! Its being fansubbed now at least.
kamapuaa
post #9  on January 27, 2004 - 1:33 PM PST  
What's up with the remaining Ghiblis? Does Disney have any plan to release "Omohide Poro Poro" or "Mimi o Sumaseba"?
dpowers
post #10  on January 27, 2004 - 4:27 PM PST  
> What's up with the remaining Ghiblis? Does Disney have any plan to release "Omohide Poro Poro" or "Mimi o Sumaseba"?

let's ask the magic 8-ball

"will disney release omohide poro poro / only yesterday in the next 3 years?"

SIGNS POINT TO NO

"then, what about mimi o sumaseba / whisper of the heart?"

WITHOUT A DOUBT
hamano
post #11  on January 27, 2004 - 5:53 PM PST  
Magic eight ball! How about Neko no ongaeshi?
dpowers
post #12  on January 27, 2004 - 6:26 PM PST  
AS I SEE IT, YES

there you have it. however i don't see anywhere that they've done a dub for it yet and they're sure to want one. might be next year?
larbeck
post #13  on January 27, 2004 - 10:30 PM PST  
The way the fansubbing is getting, we have have yazuka hunting them down like mad Ninja RIAA agents in a Tarantino film. I have since some fansubs that were better quality than many professionals and on shows that appear only about a week after broadcast!

And I should mention for those who have miss my ranting before, it seems that those spuds at Toei have been to the Disney/Eisner school of exploitation and all had the lobotomy. They have decided that the SailorMoon Sailorstars season will probably never ever be available in any licensed format! They are afraid of a backlash interfering with their plans for world domaination with the new live action version. And so, there will not be any genderbending and S/M styled costumes will be toned down. I don't know if Sailor Uranus and Sailor Neptune will be cousins...gawd, I hope not!
markhl
post #14  on January 28, 2004 - 6:57 AM PST  
Uhh going back to the topic at hand... I thought of one..

Not really age but the combination of sexual humor with kiddy cartoon-like appearance will make Gainax's Oruchuban Ebichu a candidate to never grace these shores in licensed form. Damn censoring...
hamano
post #15  on January 28, 2004 - 10:09 AM PST  
> On January 28, 2004 - 6:57 AM PST markhl wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Uhh going back to the topic at hand... I thought of one..
>
> Not really age but the combination of sexual humor with kiddy cartoon-like appearance will make Gainax's Oruchuban Ebichu a candidate to never grace these shores in licensed form. Damn censoring...
> ---------------------------------

I seriously doubt that a GAINAX title will go unlicensed! There's a big market of fans in place, so one of the distributors that also publishes hentai would surely grab it...
dpowers
post #16  on January 28, 2004 - 11:20 AM PST  
don't ask for Oruchuban Ebichu, ask for anime no awa awa awa, the anthology series of which ebichu is 1/4. the other parts are not as splatterific but they are very fun and sexy.
name0000
post #17  on January 28, 2004 - 10:01 PM PST  
> On January 27, 2004 - 1:14 AM PST OKhan1 wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> > On January 26, 2004 - 7:04 PM PST name0000 wrote:
> > ---------------------------------
> > Legend of Galactic Heroes
>
> Thanks for reminding me, I forgot to list L.O.G.H. I think many so called fans would find the complex politics of the show "boring."
> >
> > I paid like $120 for the Taiwan 13 disc version and it feel alot already. LOL
>
> Tell me, how is the quality of the english subtitles ? I'll probably end up buying the Hong Kong version, any information on its quality and such would be much appreciated.
>
> ---------------------------------


From what I have seen. They are no bad, espcially for a HK sub. There are about 8-9 episodes in a disc. There's only about 48 episodes of English fan sub out there currently. There is no way in hell somebody will pick up from there and continue the rest of the series. I actually mailed the 3rd season to Defiler (of the DefilerPak fame) so he can make avi file with them.

I dont think he has done anything since. So if you want to know what happen in the end, buying them is the only option. And if you are buying them, buy the 3rd box and the 4th box at the same time. They put disc4 of season 3 in the last box. The season 3 is longer and the most important event happened in the end of that season.

I actually read the book before I watched s3 and s4 because I got so siiiiiickkkkkk of waiting. I would say it's pretty faithful to the book but I rather see a little bit more dramatic ending. I expected Julian to do a little bit more. No like "Tom Clancy dramatic", but a little bit bigger than life. You know what I mean.

At this point, I just want more people to watch it so I can talk about LOGH with people.
OKhan1
post #18  on January 30, 2004 - 7:02 PM PST  
> From what I have seen. They are no bad, espcially for a HK sub. There are about 8-9 episodes in a disc. There's only about 48 episodes of English fan sub out there currently. There is no way in hell somebody will pick up from there and continue the rest of the series. I actually mailed the 3rd season to Defiler (of the DefilerPak fame) so he can make avi file with them.
>
> I dont think he has done anything since. So if you want to know what happen in the end, buying them is the only option. And if you are buying them, buy the 3rd box and the 4th box at the same time. They put disc4 of season 3 in the last box. The season 3 is longer and the most important event happened in the end of that season.
>
> I actually read the book before I watched s3 and s4 because I got so siiiiiickkkkkk of waiting. I would say it's pretty faithful to the book but I rather see a little bit more dramatic ending. I expected Julian to do a little bit more. No like "Tom Clancy dramatic", but a little bit bigger than life. You know what I mean.
>
> At this point, I just want more people to watch it so I can talk about LOGH with people.
> ---------------------------------


Thanks a bundle for the info. I'll be ordering a bunch of HK DVDs through a family friend who frequently visits Hong Kong. I heard the DVDs are dirt cheap if bought there.
And yes, I look forward to watching LOGH, I'm tired of the crap available here. Are there any other HK titles you'd recommend ?
name0000
post #19  on January 30, 2004 - 10:06 PM PST  

> Thanks a bundle for the info. I'll be ordering a bunch of HK DVDs through a family friend who frequently visits Hong Kong. I heard the DVDs are dirt cheap if bought there.
> And yes, I look forward to watching LOGH, I'm tired of the crap available here. Are there any other HK titles you'd recommend ?
>
> ---------------------------------


Anime is so big in US now you can get most of the stuff here. You can get the boxsets I mentioned on line and on ebay btw.
BBendall
post #20  on February 1, 2004 - 3:03 PM PST  
I have my doubts about ever seeing Popotan be licensed. A lot of bath scenes with a nude preteen girl may be a problem for the distributors. Its all perfectly innocent but who knows...
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