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Convert woozy!
Topic by: jross3
Posted: May 28, 2004 - 10:17 PM PDT
Last Reply: June 21, 2004 - 12:09 AM PDT

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author topic: Convert woozy!
jross3
post #1  on May 28, 2004 - 10:17 PM PDT  
> On May 28, 2004 - 5:23 PM PDT woozy wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Speaking of tangents, I rented Spirited Away last night. Um, considering the number of anime fans out there I figure I must just be missing something. Anyone want to take a stab at explaining simply, in few sentences, the appeal of anime? I kinda just don't get it. I've tried it about a dozen times and well... I don't get it. I wanna get it... but I don't.


This is just a big cry for help, isn't it?

> I'm not saying Spirited Away wasn't visually pleasant and extremely well done... I just figured if it was so universally praised as it seemed to be, it might be the anime that'd convert me... Sigh... it didn't.

Oh! I wanna help! But I can't do it alone!

Mr. woozy needs our help, anime friends! Spirited Away wasn't enough to convert our squarish feline friend! As I and SinnyG have given him some advice, it may be that he just needs a little itty bitty push to bring him to our side for good!
So what say you, comrades? Can we save this person?
Catullus
post #2  on May 28, 2004 - 10:46 PM PDT  
spirited away pretty much sucks in my opinion. I know a lot of people disagree with me for some strange reason.

I don't really think he should have watched that for his first anime.

I don't know enough about Woozy to recommend an anime he would like perhaps if I knew more about him I would.
DBooher
post #3  on May 28, 2004 - 11:33 PM PDT  
You think Spirited Away s-sucked!

dbooher staggers

Oh-kay. I'm fine.
Deep breaths...pheeeew.

Opinions...entitled...everyone...yes

Maybe you should try a classic. Ninja Scroll or Wicked City. Or perhaps more movie like ones: Perfect Blue and alot of ppl seemed to like Millenum Actress.

I personally really didn't like Akira that much but it's suppose to be a classic. I really liked Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust. If you like vampires you'll like that. If you don't I will come over, Mr. Woozy, and be your slave for a day. Yes, I am that confident. But then again, u didn't like Spirited Away. Maybe I'm getting ahead of myself.
Catullus
post #4  on May 29, 2004 - 12:02 AM PDT  
Okay having read one of his posts I have some ideas

1) Perfect Blue
2) Monster (still airing in japan available on fansub)
3) Serial Experiments Lain
4) Witch Hunter Robin
5) Shingetsutan Tsukihime (coming to US soon as Lunar Legend Tsukihime, I believe thats what they call it anyway)
6) Neon Genesis Evangelion or Rahxephon
7) Ghost in the Shell movie and tv series Stand Alone Complex (SAC more so than the movie)

I am certainwithout a doubt your friend Woozy would enjoy all of those with the exception of perhaps Ghost in the Shell.

Actually Im more than certain, I hope he puts this too the test.
Catullus
post #5  on May 29, 2004 - 12:06 AM PDT  
"I'm not saying Spirited Away wasn't visually pleasant and extremely well done... I just figured if it was so universally praised as it seemed to be, it might be the anime that'd convert me... Sigh... it didn't.

Anyway, you guys who like anime, seem to REALLY like anime that I'm wondering what I'm missing."


From Woozy ^

Yeah looks like he thinks Spirited away sucks too although he was nicer than I was about it.

He really should check out some of those titles I just named, he probably would get it then.... XD
DBooher
post #6  on May 29, 2004 - 12:07 AM PDT  
Okay I'm sorry I can't just leave this alone. I've been racking my brain for the--what--hour or so I've been gone. I don't want to weigh a newbie down with series'--as good as they may be--so here's a few movies that are super good. ONE of these (along w/ the before mentioned ones) HAS to tickle your fancy Woozy.

Princess Mononoko

Ghost in the Shell

Grave of the Fireflies

My Neighbor Totoro

Jin-Roh The Wolf Brigade

Wings of Honneamise

Try one of these or the before mentioned. Don't give up!
We will turn you by golly!


Catullus
post #7  on May 29, 2004 - 12:14 AM PDT  
hisses at Dbooher

stop recommending studio ghibli films if he didn't like Spirited Away a studio ghibli film hes not going to like one of the 3 you mentioned.

Grave of the Fireflies only saving grace is that miyazaki didn't direct it, but then again I didn't think it was that good either, it was just a see through attempt at a tear jerker.

Other than that your list is decent :P

sorry for giving you a hard time.

I haven't seen totoro yet, but the only good miyazaki film ive seen is Nausicaa.
DBooher
post #8  on May 29, 2004 - 12:31 AM PDT  
> On May 29, 2004 - 12:14 AM PDT Catullus wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> hisses at Dbooher
>
> stop recommending studio ghibli films if he didn't like Spirited Away a studio ghibli film hes not going to like one of the 3 you mentioned.

Well, that's not necessarily true. Let's not discriminate against studios entirely.

I didn't like Abenobashi Magical Shopping District as much as I liked Neon Genesis Evangelion; entirely two different plots from the same studio. Let's see what Woozy prefers anime-wise not studio-wise.

But I totally understand where your coming from.
And note taken.
markhl
post #9  on May 29, 2004 - 8:22 AM PDT  
sheesh.. break it up you two.. and stop making such long lists.. that'll probably scare him away before he even has a chance to try anything. give Woozy a chance to tell us what he likes.. man...

Hey DBooher.. Spirited Away sucked.. Mononoke was only a tad better. kekeke >B)
dpowers
post #10  on May 29, 2004 - 8:58 AM PDT  
why convert woozy to anime. let's convert him to PAL!
Eoliano
post #11  on May 29, 2004 - 10:52 AM PDT  
Woozy is incontrovertibly square and cannot be converted!
jross3
post #12  on May 29, 2004 - 10:55 AM PDT  
> On May 29, 2004 - 10:52 AM PDT Eoliano wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Woozy is incontrovertibly square and cannot be converted!
> ---------------------------------

Don't give up hope, Brother Eoliano! As long as we have hope in our hearts, any soul can be salvaged!
DBooher
post #13  on May 29, 2004 - 11:14 AM PDT  
> On May 29, 2004 - 8:22 AM PDT markhl wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> sheesh.. break it up you two.. and stop making such long lists.. that'll probably scare him away before he even has a chance to try anything. give Woozy a chance to tell us what he likes.. man...
>

I'm not asking him watch them all, I'm simply putting a few out there to choose from. He's new to the scene--he may not really knows what he likes. :-P


> Hey DBooher.. Spirited Away sucked.. Mononoke was only a tad better. kekeke >B)

That's it. It's on now.
dbooher purchases voodoo doll
Catullus
post #14  on May 29, 2004 - 11:18 AM PDT  
The problem with Mononoke was the similar themes it shared with Nausicaa

Miyazaki truly did rip himself off on that one.

PM is overratted greatly, but its alright.

I also consider FF the spirits within to have ripped off both of those movies too. probably why I thought it sucked (because it ripped off mononoke)
woozy
post #15  on May 29, 2004 - 11:23 AM PDT  
Hey! Hey! I never said Spirited Away sucked!

And I didn't dislike it because it was a children's movie; I disliked it because it was anime.

(woozy ducks his head to avoid the flaming projectiles tossed his way.)

I'm not sure what is is about anime that leaves me cold, but something does.

I'm just curious if anyone can give a capsule description as to why it appeals.

For example, I've always disliked westerns. Always have, always will I suspect. There've been a few westerns that were good movies in their right but the genre just doesn't do it for me. A good friend of mine loves westerns and explains they pit human elements and bare them to force the hero to face himself with no constructs natural or societal to block his view.

So, okay, I get that. Still don't like westerns but I can see what he sees in them. (Actually when Star Trek: Deep space nine first came on TV I was watching an episode where Keiko decides to start a school and it suddenly hit me: "Hey, they're trying to do a western!")

I'm just wondering if there's a similar theme or ethos to describe what anime is "about" because... well, I just don't "get" it.

That's all.
jross3
post #16  on May 29, 2004 - 11:23 AM PDT  
> On May 29, 2004 - 11:18 AM PDT Catullus wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> I also consider FF the spirits within to have ripped off both of those movies too. probably why I thought it sucked (because it ripped off mononoke)
> ---------------------------------

Not that it was such a great movie, but I totally don't follow you there. Unless sharing a very common theme (man's existance within nature, or something to that effect) is what you mean by "ripping off".

Remember, Cat! We're here for woozy! Think positively!
jross3
post #17  on May 29, 2004 - 11:27 AM PDT  
> On May 29, 2004 - 11:23 AM PDT woozy wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Hey! Hey! I never said Spirited Away sucked!
>
> And I didn't dislike it because it was a children's movie; I disliked it because it was anime.
>
> (woozy ducks his head to avoid the flaming projectiles tossed his way.)
>
> I'm not sure what is is about anime that leaves me cold, but something does.

Ok, now that you're here, maybe you could give us a short list of what you've seen. Maybe if we know that, we can find out what the problem is and help you better!
DBooher
post #18  on May 29, 2004 - 11:32 AM PDT  

(woozy ducks his head to avoid the flaming projectiles tossed his way.)
>
Dammit, my aim's not right from this angle.
Woozy, could you duck a liiittle more to the left?
^_^
Catullus
post #19  on May 29, 2004 - 11:39 AM PDT  
"Not that it was such a great movie, but I totally don't follow you there. Unless sharing a very common theme (man's existance within nature, or something to that effect) is what you mean by "ripping off"."

Spoilers to follow for FFTSW and Princess Mononoke
1) the nature theme
2) the deaths by the monsters were just like the forrest spirit in mononoke
3) there are nature spirits in TSW
4) the plots of both suck and involve saving the world from something that is ethereal and if it touches you, you automatically die (this theme happens in xenosaga too but it is done 1000000x better, xenosaga is a ps2 game)
Eoliano
post #20  on May 29, 2004 - 11:45 AM PDT  
> Don't give up hope, Brother Eoliano! As long as we have hope in our hearts, any soul can be salvaged!

I haven't given up hope, O my brothers, for neither mine nor woozy's soul need be rescued. Keep in mind that I share his over-all opinion, although I'm not as adamant as he.
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