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What's next?
Topic by: ahogue
Posted: March 18, 2005 - 3:33 PM PST
Last Reply: May 18, 2005 - 8:00 AM PDT

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author topic: What's next?
ahogue
post #1  on March 18, 2005 - 3:33 PM PST  
Hello everyone, I'm sort of new around here.

I just started watching anime regularly several months ago. So far I've managed to find some excellent stuff by trial and error, as well as some series which I sent back partially watched.

I realize there are other recent "recommendations" threads around, but I was hoping someone would be willing to provide some recommendations for me based on the sorts of shows I've liked and not liked so far.

I loved:
Boogiepop Phantom
Texhnolyze
Akira
Haibane Renmei
His and Her Circumstances
Ghost in the Shell (both movies)
Perfect Blue (with reservations)

I'm lukewarm on:
Last Exile (still renting)
Hellsing (probably won't finish it)
Kino's Journey (first disc didn't grab me)
Millenium Actress

I basically hated:
Key the Metal Idol
Noir
Roujin Z
Requiem from the Darkness

Basically, I tend to like my anime either really cute or really serious. Good characters are a big deal to me.

Thanks alot in advance for any help!
Alan
ahogue
post #2  on March 18, 2005 - 3:39 PM PST  
Oh yeah...I also thought Lain was quite good. Basically I've seen or have in my cue everything of Abe's that's out, according to Anime News Network.

Thanks!
jross3
post #3  on March 18, 2005 - 3:59 PM PST  
> On March 18, 2005 - 3:33 PM PST ahogue wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Basically, I tend to like my anime either really cute or really serious. Good characters are a big deal to me.

For cute:
Card Captor Sakura
Chobits
Mahoromatic

For serious:
Berserk
Neon Genesis Evangelion
and probably Berserk.

Really good character stories:
Someday's Dreamers
Fruits Basket
Berserk

Berserk is probably as serious as it gets (as I've yet seen). Grave of the Fireflies is supposed to be both good and very serious, but I haven't seen it.... you might look into it, though.

If you really like ABe's work.... it would be hard for me to pin down something I think you'd like. He's an odd guy. You didn't mention Neia_7 (but I assume it's in your queue), which I enjoyed.... to a degree.
Shaky
post #4  on March 18, 2005 - 4:49 PM PST  
> On March 18, 2005 - 3:33 PM PST ahogue wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> I loved:
> Boogiepop Phantom
> Texhnolyze
> Akira
> Haibane Renmei
> His and Her Circumstances
> Ghost in the Shell (both movies)
> Perfect Blue (with reservations)

Based on that, I would definitely suggest Paranoia Agent. It's a thirteen episode series made by Satoshi Kon, the guy who did Perfect Blue, and it kind of shares the freaky nature of Boogiepop and Lain while remaining a little more optimistic.

Since you also seem to like the dark cyberpunk stuff, I would suggest checking out my Bubblegum Crisis list. The masterpiece in that group is Parasite Dolls, which has a similar feel to Ghost in the Shell and Texhnolyze. However, that film assumes you know what Genom and Boomers are, so you should probably watch the original 2032 series first so you'll know what's going on. Don't let the older animation style and music turn you off; the show is better than its art.

Also, if you really liked Boogiepop Phantom, I would suggest watching the live-action prequel, Boogiepop and Others. It's not nearly as good as the anime, but it will answer a lot of questions and fill in a lot of holes the anime never addresses. In other words, watch it not for itself, but to make the anime that much better.
DBooher
post #5  on March 18, 2005 - 10:49 PM PST  
No one recommended Azumanga Daioh for cute? What? Hamano's the cute expert. I agree, Noir sucked. And Key, oh man, it's good if you want to be talked TO DEATH. (Sorry Jross3)

Gungrave has a great and yet not too overly drawn out story line. Twelve Kingdoms is also very well done, a little drawn out but not enough to make your eyes glaze over, as Key the Metal Idol does (sorry Jross3).

X the series I recommend to everyone because it's just awesome and I'll second b-b-b....what's on Jross3's list for serious.

hamano
post #6  on March 19, 2005 - 7:36 AM PST  
> On March 18, 2005 - 3:33 PM PST ahogue wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> I loved:
> Boogiepop Phantom
> Texhnolyze
> Akira
> Haibane Renmei
> His and Her Circumstances
> Ghost in the Shell (both movies)
> Perfect Blue (with reservations)

> Basically, I tend to like my anime either really cute or really serious. Good characters are a big deal to me.

Hmmm.... I'm not really getting a sense for what is "really cute" for you. None of these are "cute" in the way Cardcaptor Sakura is "cute". And none of these are "silly" (which I usually like). If you don't like "cute cute" or "silly" obviously Azumanga Daioh is going to be a bad recommendation.

The titles you "loved" if you include Lain tend to gravitate toward the more serious titles (dare I say humorless), with Haibane and KareKano rounding out what you're perhaps categorizing as "cute" or maybe "whimsical".

Strictly based on your list, I would recommend Macross Plus, Saikano, and Gasaraki. Maybe add Lunar Legend Tsukihime (a vampire romance, MUCH better than Hellsing IMHO), Elfen Lied (I think it's coming soon), and GANTZ. GANTZ is soooooooo cute!

And of course you can't go wrong with Samurai X Trust and Betrayal although the TV series and other movies/OAVs might not measure up for you. This is on my anime top ten list... Jin Roh, another darkly excellent serious anime movie for thinking adults, would have been in my top twenty.

It might help if you could pinpoint exactly what you didn't like about Key the Metal Idol... animation style? Character or mecha design? Music? Plot?
hamano
post #7  on March 19, 2005 - 7:47 AM PST  
Oh, I want to add that Gasaraki, Twelve Kingdoms, and Crest of the Stars are good shows (I'm actually lukewarm about Gasaraki, but I like TwelveK and Crest very much) they are all VERY verbose. They feature a lot of talking by the characters and narrators to move the plot along... things don't just "happen" in them. I wonder if you've seen any of the Patlabor movies... if you've seen them, especially the second one, you'll know what I mean by verbose.

If you can concentrate on an anime title enough to get Boogiepop Phantom or Lain, you'd probably have no problem with these, but mileage varies with some people.

Maybe I'll second that recommendation for Berserk...
markhl
post #8  on March 19, 2005 - 9:33 AM PST  
Just tacking on one more in the serious category. This isn't for everyone though..

Now and Then, Here and There
DBooher
post #9  on March 19, 2005 - 10:00 AM PST  
Strictly based on your list, I would recommend Macross Plus, Saikano, and Gasaraki. Maybe add Lunar Legend Tsukihime (a vampire romance, MUCH better than Hellsing IMHO), Elfen Lied (I think it's coming soon), and GANTZ. GANTZ is soooooooo cute!

Sensei actually sat through Saikano? Wow. I wanna say something but it's Saturday morning and why is One Piece a saturday morning cartoon?
Dcran1955
post #10  on March 19, 2005 - 3:58 PM PST  
I'll second Berserk (if you like to see people get butchered like cattle) aswell as Lunar Legend, Azumanga Daioh, and Twelve Kingdoms.

I would also recommend The vision of Escaflowne(the series, not the movie).

Did Noir suck that bad? I just started it.
markhl
post #11  on March 19, 2005 - 7:55 PM PST  
> On March 19, 2005 - 3:58 PM PST Dcran1955 wrote:
> Did Noir suck that bad? I just started it.


No, it's ok. People who criticize it are usually retaliating from some of the undue fawning by some of its worshippers-I-mean-fans. It's not a "great" piece of anime but it's good enough I thought. (It doesn't sustain the level of the first few episodes but not many series does?)
hamano
post #12  on March 19, 2005 - 7:59 PM PST  
> On March 19, 2005 - 3:58 PM PST Dcran1955 wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Did Noir suck that bad? I just started it.
> ---------------------------------

There were some really excellent episodes, especially toward the beginning. The last two volumes, though, got all bogged down in that Grand Retour conspiracy thing and got pretty repetitious and boring, IMHO. Kirika totally loses her knack for using odds and ends to kill in imaginative ways.
hamano
post #13  on March 19, 2005 - 8:01 PM PST  
> On March 19, 2005 - 10:00 AM PST DBooher wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Sensei actually sat through Saikano?

Actually, I haven't seen all of it yet. But based on the information ahogue gave, I would recommend it... I'm basing my recommendations on his list, not my top ten... I would pick more stuff like SuperGals for myself!
DBooher
post #14  on March 19, 2005 - 8:22 PM PST  
> On March 19, 2005 - 7:59 PM PST hamano wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> > On March 19, 2005 - 3:58 PM PST Dcran1955 wrote:
> > ---------------------------------
> > Did Noir suck that bad? I just started it.
> > ---------------------------------
>
> There were some really excellent episodes, especially toward the beginning. The last two volumes, though, got all bogged down in that Grand Retour conspiracy thing and got pretty repetitious and boring, IMHO. Kirika totally loses her knack for using odds and ends to kill in imaginative ways.
> ---------------------------------


Hamano is totally correct. It's good in the beginning, the first fight scene in the construction area is awesome--the tie grabbing part especially. But after the first 5 or 6 episodes the series follows the same pattern of unlocking a secret--assasin fight and destroy--another secret hinted--the end. The music's great and even though the fight scenes are awesome they're a bit methodical. I think the series was spread too thin. ...Like an M Night Shyamalan movie. dodges rain of rotten tomatoes from M-fans
hamano
post #15  on March 19, 2005 - 8:36 PM PST  
That shootout where Kirika uses popcorn to find the bad guys in the dark to shoot them was totally awesome! I really wish there were more scenes like that, especially as the series reached the climax!
jross3
post #16  on March 19, 2005 - 9:02 PM PST  
> On March 19, 2005 - 8:36 PM PST hamano wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> That shootout where Kirika uses popcorn to find the bad guys in the dark to shoot them was totally awesome! I really wish there were more scenes like that, especially as the series reached the climax!
> ---------------------------------

If you're starved for creative murder, Case Closed might help. It's not action-packed, but they do get creative. Just off the top of my head, I remember one episode where a man kills someone by casting a heavy fishing weight from a nearby building. Aparently, expert fishermen are also pretty good assassins.
hamano
post #17  on March 19, 2005 - 9:18 PM PST  
Also, part of the fun was the interaction between the hard-boiled and experienced Mireille who refined all her killer skills over time, and the devil-may-care natural that Kirika was. Kirika never shows any pleasure or surprise over her skills. She's a natural, but she has no appreciation of it. Mireille is in turns extraordinarily impressed by Kirika's capabilities, and then disgusted by her matter of fact, straightforward way of killing. Mireille believes there's a certain degree of learned skill and proper style to be followed, and calls Kirika's killing ge-hin or tasteless. This "odd-couple" act is a lot of fun, but it's lost over the course of the series.
Dcran1955
post #18  on March 19, 2005 - 10:04 PM PST  
Well if it's worth watching I'll watch it, but I'm really looking forward to the next volume of Samurai Champloo. I got DVD 1 at the same time as Noir 1 and I thought Noir was good but SC was great!
hamano
post #19  on March 20, 2005 - 6:27 AM PST  
> On March 19, 2005 - 10:04 PM PST Dcran1955 wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Well if it's worth watching I'll watch it, but I'm really looking forward to the next volume of Samurai Champloo. I got DVD 1 at the same time as Noir 1 and I thought Noir was good but SC was great!
> ---------------------------------

Oh, yeah, SC is miles more fun than Noir! The final episode just aired in Japan last week! I think it's a 26 ep series. Fuu is so cute, especially when she overeats.
DBooher
post #20  on March 20, 2005 - 10:06 AM PST  
> On March 19, 2005 - 10:04 PM PST Dcran1955 wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Well if it's worth watching I'll watch it, but I'm really looking forward to the next volume of Samurai Champloo. I got DVD 1 at the same time as Noir 1 and I thought Noir was good but SC was great!
> ---------------------------------

I agree!
SC starts off awesome and ends awesome (volume 1). I remember having to pick my jaw up from up the floor after the last episode on volume one. I am constantly stalking best buy even though I know it won't be out for another week and a half.

I even used that series to convert someone whose not so into anime after he said Vampire Hunter D bloodlust had him nodding off--but he said Champloo had him doing the same thing. He saw ten minutes and turned it off....
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