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Do any non-green availability titles ever ship?
Topic by: Rhyslin
Posted: June 16, 2012 - 11:32 AM PDT
Last Reply: June 19, 2012 - 11:00 PM PDT

author topic: Do any non-green availability titles ever ship?
Rhyslin
post #1  on June 16, 2012 - 11:32 AM PDT  
From comments here, it seems that the chance of getting a non-green title is low, maybe even zero. Is that the case?

Say I really, really want to get one that's blue. I set my queue ordering locked so that I won't get any DVD except the one at the top of my queue. Will a blue one *ever* ship? What kind of wait time might I expect?

I guess if the answer really is "never", what's the difference in the colors/length other than green or not-green?
kaream
post #2  on June 16, 2012 - 12:08 PM PDT  
> On June 16, 2012 - 11:32 AM PDT Rhyslin wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> From comments here, it seems that the chance of getting a non-green title is low, maybe even zero. Is that the case?
>
> Say I really, really want to get one that's blue. I set my queue ordering locked so that I won't get any DVD except the one at the top of my queue. Will a blue one *ever* ship? What kind of wait time might I expect?
>
> I guess if the answer really is "never", what's the difference in the colors/length other than green or not-green?
> ---------------------------------

No, that's not the case; people do receive blue, yellow and orange titles, and perhaps even an occasional red.

But there's no way to guess when any non-green title might be sent to you. When they get a disc back in, the computer looks to see which subscriber first queued it, and sends it to them.

Locking your queue won't make the slightest bit of difference in determining your priority for that title. It could help only to the extent that if you are next in line for receiving that title when it's returned, you will have a free slot open at that time. Probably what usually happens is that someone will be next up for a specific title, but already has their full number of discs checked out, so instead it gets sent to the next person in line who has a free slot at that time.
Cinenaut
post #3  on June 16, 2012 - 9:54 PM PDT  
I just put a bunch of orange, yellow and red stuff at the top of my queue, with green stuff from around the 90 position up. Always keep some green stuff in the first 100 positions.

Every once in a while, a yellow, orange or red one will get shipped. Mostly it's green these days.
Rhyslin
post #4  on June 16, 2012 - 10:36 PM PDT  
I guess I had expected it to work like "that other company's" queue, where it seems to depend on you having to have returned a DVD on the day that they get one of the ones in short supply. That's why I thought that locking my queue so that I guaranteed an empty slot was available would increase the chances.

So here, when one of the ones on the waitlist is returned, it gets "assigned" to someone, and will sit in inventory until that person returns a DVD? Considering I got busy earlier in the year and didn't return DVDs for a few months, I could have tied up a waitlisted title?

FYI, since I still retain a sub to "that other company", I'll note that their current policy seems to be that they will usually ship you a waitlisted DVD at the top of your queue in excess of your sub limit. So lately, I have had +1 DVD than my sub allows. That is kinda nice IMHO.
Rhyslin
post #5  on June 16, 2012 - 10:38 PM PDT  
> On June 16, 2012 - 10:36 PM PDT Rhyslin wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> I guess I had expected it to work like "that other company's" queue, where it seems to depend on you having to have returned a DVD on the day that they get one of the ones in short supply. That's why I thought that locking my queue so that I guaranteed an empty slot was available would increase the chances.

I actually meant to say "where it used to seem to depend" as I've noticed of late that they have become far more generouse, which I noted later.
Blumphf
post #6  on June 17, 2012 - 9:53 AM PDT  
Rhyslin--
the short answer is that for every dozen or so GREEN titles that you receive, you'll be thrown an occasional bone of one "another color" disc.

And yes, why they even bother to have **4** other colors for waiting makes no sense at all, because BLUE titles (supposedly "short waits") never seemed to get shipped, either.

The rating color wait system ought to be this:
GREEN -- Available immediately.
YELLOW -- Don't hold your breath.
RED -- Not in your lifetime.

kaream
post #7  on June 18, 2012 - 2:23 PM PDT  
> On June 16, 2012 - 10:36 PM PDT Rhyslin wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> I guess I had expected it to work like "that other company's" queue, where it seems to depend on you having to have returned a DVD on the day that they get one of the ones in short supply. That's why I thought that locking my queue so that I guaranteed an empty slot was available would increase the chances.
>
> So here, when one of the ones on the waitlist is returned, it gets "assigned" to someone, and will sit in inventory until that person returns a DVD? Considering I got busy earlier in the year and didn't return DVDs for a few months, I could have tied up a waitlisted title?
>
> FYI, since I still retain a sub to "that other company", I'll note that their current policy seems to be that they will usually ship you a waitlisted DVD at the top of your queue in excess of your sub limit. So lately, I have had +1 DVD than my sub allows. That is kinda nice IMHO.
> ---------------------------------

Nothing "sits in inventory" waiting, if it's requested by anyone. They will ship it out to the subscriber who first requested it, and who has a free slot on that day. The conspiracy theory that GC has stacks of urgently wanted movies sitting around in their warehouse waiting for something or someone, keeps popping up here, and it has never made any sense.

The only discs that "sit around" are the ones in people's homes when they can't quite manage to watch and return it in a reasonable time - or to ship it back unwatched, and queue it again, if they know they won't have time for it for a while. Or for instance people who think they'll hang onto it for when Aunt May visits at Thanksgiving, because she would enjoy it. Or it gets lost under a pile of old magazines. No movie should ever stay checked out for more than a week, at most.

It's true that NF will sometimes ship an extra movie beyond your subscription limit if it has been on "Short wait" at the top of your queue, and becomes available at a different warehouse somewhere else in the country - which is a great deal. NF also discriminates against subscribers with quick turnaround, giving preference to people who tend to rent fewer movies on their subscription. GC doesn't appear to do that - or at least they don't say they do, while NF specifies this policy in their guidelines.
kaream
post #8  on June 18, 2012 - 2:32 PM PDT  
> On June 17, 2012 - 9:53 AM PDT Blumphf wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Rhyslin--
> the short answer is that for every dozen or so GREEN titles that you receive, you'll be thrown an occasional bone of one "another color" disc.
>
> And yes, why they even bother to have **4** other colors for waiting makes no sense at all, because BLUE titles (supposedly "short waits") never seemed to get shipped, either.
>
> The rating color wait system ought to be this:
> GREEN -- Available immediately.
> YELLOW -- Don't hold your breath.
> RED -- Not in your lifetime.
>
>
> ---------------------------------

Yeah, I'm not sure what's going on with blue. I get yellow and orange titles, but I don't think I've ever received a blue one. People have reported having received a red from time to time, but it's rare.
JasonGWB
post #9  on June 18, 2012 - 2:59 PM PDT  
> On June 18, 2012 - 2:32 PM PDT kaream wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> > On June 17, 2012 - 9:53 AM PDT Blumphf wrote:
> > ---------------------------------
> > Rhyslin--
> > the short answer is that for every dozen or so GREEN titles that you receive, you'll be thrown an occasional bone of one "another color" disc.
> >
> > And yes, why they even bother to have **4** other colors for waiting makes no sense at all, because BLUE titles (supposedly "short waits") never seemed to get shipped, either.
> >
> > The rating color wait system ought to be this:
> > GREEN -- Available immediately.
> > YELLOW -- Don't hold your breath.
> > RED -- Not in your lifetime.
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------
>
> Yeah, I'm not sure what's going on with blue. I get yellow and orange titles, but I don't think I've ever received a blue one. People have reported having received a red from time to time, but it's rare.
>
> ---------------------------------

I have to agree about the issue with "blue" movies although most of my "blue" titles are actually blu-ray copies of movies so that may have something to do with it. I have to say that in the few months I have had a membership I have no complaints about getting "orange" and even the occasional "yellow" movie. I arrange all the "green" movies at the bottom of my queue and sort the "blue" to "red" movies in the order I would like to see them but always above "green" moves. I don't really adjust my queue much but from what I understand this should not effect how long I wait for a certain title in any event. The one thing about this system is you can never know for certain what movie will be sent to you next but that being said I really don't have any complaints about the color system. There being only one west coast warehouse when I am on the east coast causes some delays but that is a different matter and I have never waited longer than four days for a movie once it has been shipped.



Rhyslin
post #10  on June 19, 2012 - 9:16 PM PDT  
> On June 18, 2012 - 2:23 PM PDT kaream wrote:
> ---------------------------------

> Nothing "sits in inventory" waiting, if it's requested by anyone. They will ship it out to the subscriber who first requested it, and who has a free slot on that day.

That's how I expected it to work, and why I thought that locking the order to keep my one slot empty would help to get it.

I guess an issue is that I only sub for 1 DVD, and since I'm on the east coast, at best I can cycle through only one DVD per week. That gives me a pretty short window where I have an available slot. I've had a blue availability title at the top of my list since Sept when I joined, and haven't lucked out on it yet.

I'm only here to rent anime, and looking at my queue of 60+ entries, all but 2 DVDs are green and are either singles or in series with totally green availability. I don't want to start a series and then wait 6 months/forever to get one of the non-greens in the middle.
Rhyslin
post #11  on June 19, 2012 - 9:18 PM PDT  
> On June 19, 2012 - 9:16 PM PDT Rhyslin wrote:
> ---------------------------------

> I'm only here to rent anime, and looking at my queue of 60+ entries, all but 2 DVDs are green and are either singles or in series with totally green availability.

Grrr, I meant to say "only 2 DVDs are green..."
shiftless
post #12  on June 19, 2012 - 11:00 PM PDT  
From my experience, the blue color doesn't mean much of anything, except that it's not green (ie. easy to get with enough copies to satisfy demand).

It's entirely possible that Greencine is out of copies of those anime volumes that aren't green. You could write to support@greencine.com and ask them to check. I've done that a few times. I rented Baccano! Vols. 1-3 and then Vol. 4 was blue, and 2 months later, still haven't gotten it shipped. Customer service suggested I email catalog@greencine.com if I didn't get it soon, and ask them to purchase more copies. But I did not hear back when I acted on their suggestion. Frustrating to not be able to finish a series like that.

I would avoid starting on any anime title whose volumes aren't all green. Unless you have another sub to another service as backup for those volumes...

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