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Favorite non-series anime?
Topic by: rmarkd
Posted: November 21, 2003 - 9:56 AM PST
Last Reply: November 22, 2003 - 9:07 PM PST

author topic: Favorite non-series anime?
rmarkd
post #1  on November 21, 2003 - 9:56 AM PST  
I'm not into watching a series of anime, but have seen, and do like many anime movies and wanted to know if I've missed any.

So far, I've seen the following (basically the "standard" movies that a more than casual anime fan has already seen):
Akira
Ghost in the Shell
!Jin-Roh
!Grave of the Fireflies
Barefoot Gen
Voices from a Distant Star (thanks to those who suggested this)
Castle in the Sky
Castle of Cagliostro
!Perfect Blue
The Wings of Honneamise
!Princess Mononoke
!Spirited Away
Totoro
Vampire Hunter D & !Bloodlust
Ninja Scroll

The ones prefaced by '!' are ones I particularly enjoyed. What others do you suggest?

Oh, and thanks!
-Mark
dpowers
post #2  on November 21, 2003 - 11:50 AM PST  
you're looking for feature films... where do series-related feature films fit in. anyway greencine has a whole genre for anime feature films.

here are a few more, features, not related to a series.

roujin z
angel's egg
night on the galactic railroad
millennium actress
the snow queen (not anime, but very important to the development of feature-length anime)
black magic M-66
project a-ko
cyber city oedo 808 (three short features)
otaku no video
venus wars

well! that's pretty random!

there was once a thread about this... here! hmm, my list looks a little different but not much.
dpowers
post #3  on November 21, 2003 - 11:57 AM PST  
hmm the anime feature films genre is underpopulated. when's the next census, 2010?
jeffs
post #4  on November 21, 2003 - 12:42 PM PST  
Well, based upon what you've liked I would strongly recommend Kiki's Delivery Service. You may also like Kite though you may want to read the reviews on whether you want to watch the directors cut or not.

You might also want to check out Video Girl Ai. Its a complete series on one disc(6 ep), so it plays a lot like a movie. You can also check out The Slayers movies. I've only seen the first one, but its completely stand alone and takes place before the series begins.
hamano
post #5  on November 21, 2003 - 1:39 PM PST  
> On November 21, 2003 - 11:57 AM PST dpowers wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> hmm the anime feature films genre is underpopulated. when's the next census, 2010?
> ---------------------------------

Whoa d, you're a WMD! He asked for recommendations, not a search output (btw, roujin Z pops up on the 3 page long subgenre list!)

There are two types of series related movies. One basically reworks the TV series story into a shorter movie-length format, albeit with completely new animation and music. You can view these as stand-alone works independent from the TV series. Examples, Revolutionary Girl Utena and Escaflowne.

Others fall somewhere in the time continuum of the TV series. Most of these are stand alone stories that replicate the experience of one of the TV episodes in movie length. However, some knowledge of the characters and general story arc are helpful. Examples, Sailor Moon R movie, Cardcaptor Sakura Movie.

Some of the "features" are actually straight to video OVA titles, and may constitute a series as such. Often these are collected on one or two DVDs, though, so you can watch them as a "movie". Project A-Ko would be a good example.

Masterpieces:

Ah My Goddess Movie - This is a great anime movie, but some familiarity with the characters and the story, from either the OAV's or the manga, might be helpful. But a fan website should be able to give you enough background to enjoy this excellent film.

Kenshin Trust&Betrayal Director's Cut - This is part of the Kenshin franchise, but it's a prequel that shows Kenshin's professional assassin days, so you can watch it as a standalone. This has been re-edited into a single movie from the original 4 part OAV version. The tone is much darker than the TV series, and the animation is amazing. It's better than a lot of live action samurai movies.

Junkers, Come Here! - I hesitate to recommend this only because you didn't put a !-mark next to Totoro and Castle in the Sky (I also would question jeffs' recommendation for Kiki). A heart-warming sentimental feature with a talking dog. Beautiful water-color based artwork. jeffs, did you see this?

Just to give you an idea of my tastes, of the titles you !-marked,
!Jin-Roh Loved it!
!Grave of the Fireflies Loved it!
!Perfect Blue Hated it!
!Princess Mononoke Loved it!
!Spirited Away Loved it!
!Bloodlust Hated it!

Oh, I liked Voices from a Distant Star a lot, but I wouldn't call it a "feature" or a "movie"! ^_^

dpowers
post #6  on November 21, 2003 - 2:14 PM PST  
my list is recommendations. also a dog of flanders. too bad galaxy express 999 has no DVD. that one's so wonderfully complicated...
JHeneghan
post #7  on November 21, 2003 - 2:40 PM PST  
There's Cowboy Bebop: The Movie .

I think that works as a standalone.

hamano
post #8  on November 21, 2003 - 3:57 PM PST  
> On November 21, 2003 - 2:14 PM PST dpowers wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> my list is recommendations.
> ---------------------------------

You liked Venus Wars and gave up on Kokoro Library? dpow, you're so old-school shounen!

I would skip Venus Wars, rmarkd, and get Macross Plus instead. It's available as the original two volume 4 part OAV or a re-edited single volume movie. Both versions have their fans and detractors, but are essentially the same. A big selling point is the wonderful music, Yoko Kanno with Hajime Mizoguchi, Akino Arai, and Uyontana. I thought the romantic angle in the story was pretty weak, but otherwise this is a good film and essential viewing if you're a Kanno fan.
rmarkd
post #9  on November 21, 2003 - 4:09 PM PST  
thanks for the links. I actually went through the anime topics looking for a similar list, but overlooked the one you linked.

Well, I tried, at least... :-)


> On November 21, 2003 - 11:50 AM PST dpowers wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> you're looking for feature films... where do series-related feature films fit in. anyway greencine has a whole genre for anime feature films.
[...]
> ---------------------------------

rmarkd
post #10  on November 21, 2003 - 4:12 PM PST  
I liked Totoro, but wasn't crazy about it. Wasn't jam packed with magic like, say, Spirited Away.

I'm trying to see all the Miyazaki movies out there, though. I'm waiting for Greencine to stock Nausicaa and Porco Rosso. I know I can find them if I look around, but, well, I got greencine in the first place because I was too lazy to go to video stores.

I'll have to try Kite. Thanks!

-Mark

> On November 21, 2003 - 12:42 PM PST jeffs wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Well, based upon what you've liked I would strongly recommend Kiki's Delivery Service. You may also like Kite though you may want to read the reviews on whether you want to watch the directors cut or not.
>
> You might also want to check out Video Girl Ai. Its a complete series on one disc(6 ep), so it plays a lot like a movie. You can also check out The Slayers movies. I've only seen the first one, but its completely stand alone and takes place before the series begins.
> ---------------------------------

rmarkd
post #11  on November 21, 2003 - 4:19 PM PST  
Well, first, thanks for your suggestions. I gotta check them out and add them to my Q.

> On November 21, 2003 - 1:39 PM PST hamano wrote:
> Just to give you an idea of my tastes, of the titles you !-marked,
> !Jin-Roh Loved it!
> !Grave of the Fireflies Loved it!
> !Perfect Blue Hated it!
I liked the way it messed with reality. Wasn't my favorite of my favorites though...

> !Princess Mononoke Loved it!
> !Spirited Away Loved it!
> !Bloodlust Hated it!
I didn't care for Vampire Hunter D, but loved Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust. The latter seemed like a darker movie with great visuals.

>
> Oh, I liked Voices from a Distant Star a lot, but > I wouldn't call it a "feature" or a "movie"! ^_^
Well, whatever you call it, I really enjoyed it. so, if you have 30 minute "mini movies", I'm all for that too.

-Mark
hamano
post #12  on November 21, 2003 - 5:13 PM PST  
> On November 21, 2003 - 4:12 PM PST rmarkd wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> I'll have to try Kite. Thanks!
> ---------------------------------

I wrote about Kite and Mezzo Forte in another thread. I'd recommend them, but many people dislike them. Unfortunately, I don't think GreenCine has the unedited version of Mezzo Forte...

On the opposite end of the pond, there's a couple of shoujo OAV titles I like that come on a single DVD.

Shamanic Princess is a trippy sorceress show with great magical battle sequences. The story is a bit convoluted, and the episodes are "backwards"... The later episodes explain a lot about what is going on in the earlier episodes. It's got a great score by Yoshikazu Suo, one of my favorite anime composers, with Uyontana again providing a vocal.

Please Save My Earth has its problems, a major one being that they only animated the first part of a long manga series with a cult following. They tie things up as best they can, and what's there is very watchable and interesting. There's a nice giant bipedal cat. Good psychic battle action, and a great reincarnation concept. Nice song at the end by Yoko Kanno.
dpowers
post #13  on November 21, 2003 - 5:25 PM PST  
it's a story about a robot...
and a bartender...
and a boy with the same name as the planet he's going to blow to pieces!

venus wars

"you left me a white bomb
i put it on the porch
i forgot its name
but when it exploded
i lay my family in a bloody pile
i chased you and i shot you three times
before the tanks came to arrest me
oh, pretty bomb, i miss you"

-- from "early summer motorcycle soldier"
markhl
post #14  on November 22, 2003 - 9:20 AM PST  
Hmm... perhaps you'll consider expanding your anime criteria a bit to include short OAV/OVA series as you run out of movies. Great stand-alone anime movies seem more the exception than the rule and the OAVs, which are often better than longer series, are 4-6 episodes only (similar in length to a long movie...) and are pretty high quality. Of course, this route may start the watching of 12 episode shows.. then 26.. then multiple seasons of 26 and then... and then... :)
markhl
post #15  on November 22, 2003 - 9:24 AM PST  
oh yeah... Venus Wars is great if you like the older style of anime as well... loved that style of music too.. c'mon hamano.. you don't think that '80s anime have a certain... je-ne-sais-quoi?
hamano
post #16  on November 22, 2003 - 10:26 AM PST  
> On November 22, 2003 - 9:24 AM PST markhl wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> oh yeah... Venus Wars is great if you like the older style of anime as well... loved that style of music too.. c'mon hamano.. you don't think that '80s anime have a certain... je-ne-sais-quoi?
> ---------------------------------

Hey, I have '60s anime in my blood! Just that in this menu, stilton works better than gorgonzola, non?

How about some Cheez-Whiz or Velveeta?

Hey does anyone remember the Saturday morning animated Star Trek series? They used Godzilla's roar everytime a space monster attacked...they probably had to lisence that....
dpowers
post #17  on November 22, 2003 - 12:23 PM PST  
i not only remember that i'm sure there is some paraphenalia from that show in a box in my mother's attic, because that's what they were selling in stores by the time i was old enough to want to play out the stories. as with all else trekkish it has its acronym (ST:TAS) and it's available on video (VHS). (i remember thinking it was less thought-provoking than the live series. such an intense child.)

anyway i second the OAV/OVA recommendation. short series are often better than features (looser schedule) and have more mature story elements, not being subject to broadcast or theater rules.

black magic M-66 was an OVA i think. still the closest recreation of reading a shirow comic, which means something to me, at least, capturing that almost clinical spirit of his drawings. appleseed in particular reads like a diagnostic process. not that the world is sick but that from the point of view of shirow's tactical cops, their fighting skills are surgical tools, excising cancerous behavior.
larbeck
post #18  on November 22, 2003 - 7:59 PM PST  
Oh, man, how long do we have to wait for Twlight of the Cockroaches to be on DVD????? Poor Naomi.

larbeck
post #19  on November 22, 2003 - 8:02 PM PST  
> On November 21, 2003 - 11:50 AM PST dpowers wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> you're looking for feature films... where do series-related feature films fit in. anyway greencine has a whole genre for anime feature films.
> [...]

mmm, how come there is no RENT ALL button for that?
JHeneghan
post #20  on November 22, 2003 - 9:07 PM PST  
How about the other Lupin movies?

I see you have seen The Castle of Cagliostro already. There are a number of other Lupin movies in my queue (haven't seen them yet so I don't know if they are real movies or three or four episodes tied together.)

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