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topic: THE QUIBBLER: The Thread that Discusses the Truth about Harry Potter (SPOILERS!) |
hamano
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post #1
on April 19, 2004 - 11:02 AM PDT
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OK, it's just a fan club! You shouldn't join unless you've read all the books published so far and seen all the movies. (At this time, 5 books, 2 movies). We can just hang out until the next movie or book comes out.
My name is hamano, I wanted to be in Ravenclaw but I've been sorted into Slytherin for some unfathomable reason.
Favorite Book: Prisoner of Azkaban
Favorite Character: Ginny (since Order of the Phoenix)
Second Favorite Character: Luna Lovegood (are you sure she's not a porn actress?)
If there's anyone else out there who likes Harry Potter, you can apparate now and join the discussion! Don't forget to introduce yourself with a revelation of your favorite book/character/whatever. |
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AFleming
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post #2
on April 19, 2004 - 12:29 PM PDT
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My name is AFleming and I've been a Harry Potter fan for 3 years now.
hamano, I was sorted into Slytherin too! Whoever designed that program, needs to re-do it! I resorted and got into Ravenclaw. But that's kinda cheating.
Have you ever wondered why they don't just kick out every person that sorts into Slytherin? I mean, every single on of them in the books is evil. Seems like it would save the wizarding world a lot of trouble!
Favorite Book: tough one, I'm really not sure. Ok, I'll go with the 4th one, The Goblet of Fire, cause I actually cried when Cedric died!
Favorite Character: the Weasley twins (they're essentially one) They are so funny.
Second favorite character: Snape. He's funny too and SO good at being an ass. I think he's is one of the more complicated characters in the books. Alan Rickman plays a perfect Snape in the films too.
I'm counting down the days until the next film! I hope it lives up to my expectations!
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hamano
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post #3
on April 19, 2004 - 1:46 PM PDT
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I'm a bit disappointed how different looking Hermione is in the films compared to the books. In the films she's a pretty girl with a couple of mildly annoying personality traits, while in the book she's apparently mousier looking. That whole silly subplot with Hermione trying to improve her looks has to be thrown out for the films, I guess.
On the other hand, I loved the way they did Moaning Myrtle in the film. She was hilarious!
Is Cho Chang a realistic Chinese girls' name? I buy Chang as a family name but "Cho"? I dunno, it reminds me of the Japanese names in The Mikado... |
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IronS
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post #4
on April 19, 2004 - 1:57 PM PDT
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| Hi. My name is IronS and I was sorted into Gryffindor. My favorite character is Hermione Granger. My favorite book is the Goblet of Fire. Nothing like a nice dress and a new hairdo to nake the boys think of a girl as a girl. Way to go, Hermione! |
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hamano
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post #5
on April 19, 2004 - 2:26 PM PDT
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It's sad, but for the longest time I thought her name was pronounced Her-mee-oh-nee. I had to hear an interview NPR did with JKR to realize this Hermione they were talking about was my Her-mee-oh-nee.
Mao-chan, for some reason, persists in the delusion that Ginny's name is pronounced with a hard G, as in French New Guinea, even though she's seen both films. The way Ginny sort of blossomed into this very outgoing and capable girl in the latest book was a pleasant surprise. Her whiney adoration of Harry was pretty annoying. Now I want her to have her own spinoff book series, maybe with first-person narration. "Hullo, I'm Ginny Weasley.... Let me tell you about my house, and my parents and brothers...." |
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IronS
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post #6
on April 19, 2004 - 3:24 PM PDT
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> I'm a bit disappointed how different looking Hermione is in the films compared to the books.
Yeah, I was hoping for buck teeth. She does have the frizzy hair, though.
> Is Cho Chang a realistic Chinese girls' name? I buy Chang as a family name but "Cho"?
Sounds like "autumn" and no one would name a girl that.
Ginny is getting more interesting, like younger sibs in real life. |
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AFleming
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post #7
on April 19, 2004 - 7:21 PM PDT
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> On April 19, 2004 - 1:46 PM PDT hamano wrote:
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> Is Cho Chang a realistic Chinese girls' name? I buy Chang as a family name but "Cho"? I dunno, it reminds me of the Japanese names in The Mikado...
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What? Hamano Pish-Tush Kawasaki. That sounds pretty Japanese to me. |
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AFleming
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post #8
on April 19, 2004 - 7:26 PM PDT
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| I agree. 'Cho' is just a little to easy to pronounce. All the Chinese people I know have horribly complicated names for the English tongue. Like "Xuan" pronouced something like "Schwinn". What the ....? Who decided to spell it that way anyway? Maybe "Cho" is really pronounced "Pish-Tush". Then I could believe it (everyone knows that's a real East Asian name!) |
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IronS
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post #9
on April 19, 2004 - 7:37 PM PDT
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| "Cho" would be pronounced as it reads. The use of "X" (for "sh" sound) and "Zh" in Chinese is a recent-ish thing from mainland China. For example, what used to be Chang is now Zhang. So if Cho is pronounced someother way, her last name would be Zhang instead of Chang. |
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AFleming
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post #10
on April 19, 2004 - 7:49 PM PDT
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> On April 19, 2004 - 7:37 PM PDT IronS wrote:
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> "Cho" would be pronounced as it reads. The use of "X" (for "sh" sound) and "Zh" in Chinese is a recent-ish thing from mainland China. For example, what used to be Chang is now Zhang. So if Cho is pronounced someother way, her last name would be Zhang instead of Chang.
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LOL. I was joking!
Maybe "Cho" is pronounced "Nanki-Poo". That sounds pretty Chinese actually. |
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hamano
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post #11
on April 19, 2004 - 8:41 PM PDT
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Mao-chan suddenly became more interested in Harry Potter last month, and began reading the books day and night, while waiting for the school bus, going to bed EARLY so she could read in bed, etc. She finished "Phoenix" about a week ago.
Suspecting that she was just skimming through the books, I gave her a HP Trivia Quiz, and I had to award her a grade of "Outstanding"... It's pretty amazing, the power of these books.
Someone on NPR commented that JKR is a really good writer of chapters. That makes it easy for kids to read, and keeps the momentum up, apparently.
It was pretty cool watching a skinny 8 yr old plowing through a 800+ pages long book. |
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IronS
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post #12
on April 19, 2004 - 9:03 PM PDT
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I was at a local book store the night "Order of Phoenix" was out (fun party). It was a hoot to watch little kids struggle to carry such a tome.
Jim Dale is the reader for the audiobooks. He does a very good job although I don't particularly like his girl voices (like Hermione and Ginny). |
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IronS
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post #13
on April 19, 2004 - 9:17 PM PDT
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| What's also amazing to me is that the local library carries the books in English/American, Spanish, Hebrew and Chinese. My guess is that the parents are using the books to have the children brush up on reading their languages, too. |
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hamano
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post #14
on April 19, 2004 - 10:03 PM PDT
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> On April 19, 2004 - 9:03 PM PDT IronS wrote:
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> Jim Dale is the reader for the audiobooks. He does a very good job although I don't particularly like his girl voices (like Hermione and Ginny).
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I found out if you get the audiobooks on CD and make an mp3 file out of them you can fit a whole book on one CD-R. That was handy for a long flight to Japan.
Jim Dale is OK, but Stephen "Jeeves" Fry does the British audio books! I'd love to get my hands on those! |
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HOngchua
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post #15
on April 19, 2004 - 10:14 PM PDT
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My name is HOngchua. I'd personally prefer to be in Gryffindor but I assume that I'd get thrown into Ravenclaw.
Favorite Book: Prisoner of Azkaban
Favorite Character: Remus Lupin
Second Favorite Character: Hermione Granger (Given that I've got a daughter who models herself after her.)
My daughter and I double-teamed on the trivia quiz during the night that our local Borders released OOTP. We got away with lots of prizes and probably had the most loot. It seemed that not that many parents read the books in detail. She was also sold the bookstore's first copy.
The two of us play a mean game of Harry Potter Trading Cards. >:-) |
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HOngchua
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post #16
on April 19, 2004 - 10:19 PM PDT
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> On April 19, 2004 - 1:46 PM PDT hamano wrote:
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> Is Cho Chang a realistic Chinese girls' name? I buy Chang as a family name but "Cho"? I dunno, it reminds me of the Japanese names in The Mikado...
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I know that Cho can be a Romanized Cantonese surname. Chang is a Romanized surname based on the older method of conversion. |
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HOngchua
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post #17
on April 19, 2004 - 10:50 PM PDT
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> On April 19, 2004 - 7:26 PM PDT AFleming wrote:
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> I agree. 'Cho' is just a little to easy to pronounce. All the Chinese people I know have horribly complicated names for the English tongue. Like "Xuan" pronouced something like "Schwinn". What the ....? Who decided to spell it that way anyway?
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Blame the PinYin Romanization method (which is now the international standard).
The older method, Wade-Giles, was a little friendlier to the Western tongue but tended to produce inaccurate pronounciations. PinYin is initially more difficult but much more accurate.
For comparison:
Wade-Giles = Tao Te Ching, Lao Tzu, Ch'i Kung
PinYin = Dao De Jing, Lao Zi, Qi Gong |
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kamapuaa
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post #18
on April 19, 2004 - 11:30 PM PDT
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> Jim Dale is OK, but Stephen "Jeeves" Fry does the British audio books! I'd love to get my hands on those!
You probably know this, but you can order it off amazon.co.uk if you want. |
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AFleming
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post #19
on April 20, 2004 - 7:55 AM PDT
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> On April 19, 2004 - 10:50 PM PDT HOngchua wrote:
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Like "Xuan" pronouced something like "Schwinn". What the ....? Who decided to spell it that way anyway?
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> Blame the PinYin Romanization method (which is now the international standard).
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> The older method, Wade-Giles, was a little friendlier to the Western tongue but tended to produce inaccurate pronounciations. PinYin is initially more difficult but much more accurate.
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> For comparison:
> Wade-Giles = Tao Te Ching, Lao Tzu, Ch'i Kung
> PinYin = Dao De Jing, Lao Zi, Qi Gong
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Seems like the vowels are all mixed up too. Note the earlier example: 'ua' doesn't usually make the short 'i' sound in normal English. My sister-in-law's name is Wenyuan. Which is pronounced something like "W«n-u-in" The initial vowel '<<' is actually a 'schwa' sound, though I can't type the character.
Anyway, not really that important! |
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AFleming
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post #20
on April 20, 2004 - 8:03 AM PDT
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> On April 19, 2004 - 8:41 PM PDT hamano wrote:
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> Suspecting that she was just skimming through the books, I gave her a HP Trivia Quiz, and I had to award her a grade of "Outstanding"... It's pretty amazing, the power of these books.
> It was pretty cool watching a skinny 8 yr old plowing through a 800+ pages long book.
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My mother told me a similar story about a first grade boy at the school where she teaches. He was carrying around one of the Harry Potter books and, out of curiosity, she asked him some questions about it to see if he was really inderstanding what he read. Apparently the little boy answered all of them correctly.
I started reading them aloud to my daughter, but she still prefers the movies. She's just finishing up Kindergarden, so her reading skills aren't quite good enough to tackle Harry Potter yet.
I got OoTP the day after it came out and read it in one day, teehee. My husband used to make fun of me for reading the books until I finally talked him into trying the first one. He read the whole series in a week and is now a diehard Harry Potter fan too, LOL.
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