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Questions for you MST3Kies out there...
Topic by: larbeck
Posted: November 14, 2003 - 7:53 PM PST
Last Reply: January 21, 2004 - 3:50 PM PST

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author topic: Questions for you MST3Kies out there...
larbeck
post #1  on November 14, 2003 - 7:53 PM PST  
...I have tried to watch Mystery Science Theater 3000 when it was on TV and I would always get frustrated as sometimes that would be riffing on a movie that I start to take an interest and I watch them to just SHUT UP! Which brings me to my question...

Does the MST3Kies DVD have this capability? The "normal" track would actually be the commentary track on a normal DVD but to they have a separate track with the original soundtrack of the film? That way, I could rent it, watch the film "normally" and then go back and watch it again for the MST3Kie experience. I would prefer that the silhouette be switchable as well, but I could live with it.

If not, are there films that *only* available on DVD with the MST3Kies treatment?

Gag.

Final question - are there people in your town doing live MST3K type presentations of films - which is to say, they have live commentartors doing the dozens on the cheese on the screen for you partying pleasure like my favorite friendly neighborhood drafthouse cinema does here in Austin? I was just wondering.
Brujaria
post #2  on November 15, 2003 - 11:03 AM PST  
> On November 14, 2003 - 7:53 PM PDT larbeck wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Final question - are there people in your town doing live MST3K type presentations of films - which is to say, they have live commentartors doing the dozens on the cheese on the screen for you partying pleasure like my favorite friendly neighborhood drafthouse cinema does here in Austin? I was just wondering.
> ---------------------------------

Now, see that would annoy the hell out of me. At least MST3K has well scripted and rehearsed quips that have in jokes that run the gamut from classical philosophers to Gymkata! Not just a bunch of self important idjits who think they are funny by shouting random bits of banality at the screen.
lizzoqops
post #3  on November 17, 2003 - 8:29 AM PST  
The term is "MSTies", first of all : )

Some of the first dvds that came out had both the MSTed and UnMSTed versions of the movies. You should be able to check the specs at Rhino's website or at MST3Kinfo.com.

There are people who do this in Philly, but I haven't checked it out yet. But I get together with other MSTies once in a while.

Lizzo
underdog
post #4  on November 17, 2003 - 8:37 AM PST  
Yes, as Liz said, most tof the Rhino DVDs do have an un-MSTied version on the other side. I have to say, however, that the though of watching Manos the Hands of Fate, or Skydivers, without any commentary, is hard to imagine without copious amounts of drugs involved. But for people who like to do their own commentary -- or, if it is indeed a film you like for some reason -- this can come in handy.

I wish Rhino could get the rights to release MST3K DVDs featuring some of the wackier Japanese monster films, the Gameras and the Time of the Apes and such. I could see people being affectionate for those films, but trust me... the MST3K versions are a definitive improvement. For now, my VHS dubs of a few of those are pretty darned precious.

C
RHorsman
post #5  on November 17, 2003 - 9:35 AM PST  
> On November 17, 2003 - 8:37 AM PDT underdog wrote:
> ---------------------------------

> I wish Rhino could get the rights to release MST3K DVDs featuring some of the wackier Japanese monster films, the Gameras and the Time of the Apes and such. I could see people being affectionate for those films, but trust me... the MST3K versions are a definitive improvement. For now, my VHS dubs of a few of those are pretty darned precious.
>
> C
> ---------------------------------

Probably not ever going to happen. Reportedly the folks from Sandy Frank Productions ("Sandy Frank! Sandy Frank! Gads about the house all day!") were furious when they found out what Best Brains were doing with the films, so no license renewal at any price. So hold on to them dubs! My own SLP speed VHS tapes have departed to the big rainbow-blur-crackle-pit (serves me right for being so cheap I guess).
Cinenaut
post #6  on November 17, 2003 - 9:51 AM PST  
While we're here, a newbie question -- what are some of the best Mystery Science Theater 3000 titles to start with?
underdog
post #7  on November 17, 2003 - 11:19 AM PST  
> On November 17, 2003 - 9:51 AM PDT Cinenaut wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> While we're here, a newbie question -- what are some of the best Mystery Science Theater 3000 titles to start with?
> ---------------------------------

You'll forgive me for not linking those that are available on disc, 'cause I'm in a hurry, but here are some of my favorites (some of which I've reviewed here on GC), good ones to start out with:

Manos the Hands of Fate
Pod People
Cave Dwellers ("Ator....atorr.....")
Creeping Terror
Jungle Goddess (n/a on disc)
Shorts Vol. 2
Eegah!
The Brain that Wouldn't Die

The MST Movie is good too, although the film they chose isn't that terrible.

I'll come up with some more later! But these all would provide a great intro to the show.

C

C
syntax
post #8  on November 17, 2003 - 12:33 PM PST  
"Oh no, that's my drinkin' arm!" :)

Just last night that came up among some frineds of mine. Everyone chuckled. I wish it hadn't gone away... {syntax stares off into space pondering quietly to himself}
TShepard
post #9  on November 17, 2003 - 12:57 PM PST  
There are a some very reliable Tape/DVD Trader's out there who're more ethan happy to provide dupes of MST3k episodes, even going back to the KTMA years.

Check of http://www.mst3kinfo.com/ for more info on Tape/DVd Trader's.


> On November 17, 2003 - 9:35 AM PDT RHorsman wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> > On November 17, 2003 - 8:37 AM PDT underdog wrote:
> > ---------------------------------
>
> > I wish Rhino could get the rights to release MST3K DVDs featuring some of the wackier Japanese monster films, the Gameras and the Time of the Apes and such. I could see people being affectionate for those films, but trust me... the MST3K versions are a definitive improvement. For now, my VHS dubs of a few of those are pretty darned precious.
> >
> > C
> > ---------------------------------
>
> Probably not ever going to happen. Reportedly the folks from Sandy Frank Productions ("Sandy Frank! Sandy Frank! Gads about the house all day!") were furious when they found out what Best Brains were doing with the films, so no license renewal at any price. So hold on to them dubs! My own SLP speed VHS tapes have departed to the big rainbow-blur-crackle-pit (serves me right for being so cheap I guess).
> ---------------------------------

lizzoqops
post #10  on November 17, 2003 - 12:58 PM PST  
I second the "Pod People" (more riffs per capita than any other episode, I think) and "Cave Dwellers". These two are just downright funny. "Beginning of the End" is a personal favorite (that movie scared the crap outta me when I was a little kid), and for downright mean-spirited fun, you can't beat "Mitchell". "Manos" is something you may have to build up to.

I hold out a meager amount of hope for "Santa Claus Conquers the Martians" to someday get a Rhino release, and maybe "Teenage Strangler".

Lizzo
hamano
post #11  on November 17, 2003 - 1:33 PM PST  
hamano's public service link-bot:

All the MST3K titles available at GreenCine, I think. There are 2 pages.
hamano
post #12  on November 17, 2003 - 1:35 PM PST  
hamano's public service link-bot:

Also mst3kinfo.com.
larbeck
post #13  on November 17, 2003 - 3:13 PM PST  
> On November 15, 2003 - 11:03 AM PDT Brujaria wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Now, see that would annoy the hell out of me. At least MST3K has well scripted and rehearsed quips that have in jokes that run the gamut from classical philosophers to Gymkata! Not just a bunch of self important idjits who think they are funny by shouting random bits of banality at the screen.
> ---------------------------------
Dude, this is Austin. I have not been there myself, but I would not assume that this good crew does not have a scriptwriter that might even be a professional. Or at least a talented one. When the first Alamo Drafthouse Cinema opened, it shared a building with one of Austin's best support companies for professional filmmakers in the city. I don't know if this is still the case, that was years ago. But, there be some heavy talent in this ole town.
underdog
post #14  on November 18, 2003 - 3:24 PM PST  
Yeah, the Beginning of the End is also a great episode. Giant grasshoppers! Er, regular size grasshoppers made to look giant size by being placed on toy buildings. Anyway, it's a delightful MST foray. I tend to prefer the ones where the movies are more ridiculous as opposed to just boring and bad -- like Catalina Caper (although that is the one with Tom Servo's Creepy Girl fixation) and SideHackers (although that episode is worth it just for the ESPN parody). And I Accuse My Parents is also quite funny -- I own that one even.

The SciFi Channel still reruns episodes on Saturday mornings, from the last few years of the show -- the last year in particular wasn't as great, though still with its share of gems. I'm still waiting to see what they did with Squirm!

Anyway, let us know what you thought, Cinenaut.

C

larbeck
post #15  on November 18, 2003 - 8:38 PM PST  
> On November 18, 2003 - 3:24 PM PST underdog wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Yeah, the Beginning of the End is also a great episode.
My mother still talks about having to carry me out of the theater screaming in terror of that one. What can I say? I was six!
Cinenaut
post #16  on November 19, 2003 - 4:53 PM PST  
I've got several queued up, with Pod People being closest to the top.
bignovas
post #17  on January 15, 2004 - 9:02 AM PST  
Ahhh yes, MST3k.... I'm a long-time fan and own damn near every episode and you can too! Guys check out www.dapcentral.org. This dedicated group of nerds have digitally archived every episode (and specials!) of this fine fine ode to camp cinema, sans officially released episodes. As for episodes on DVD - you can't go wrong with Manos, Mitchell and just get all of the Shorts, you must. If you start doing the DAP - you must check out Santa Claus and Santa Conquers the Martians. I am also very fond of the Incredible Melting man.
WMehilos
post #18  on January 15, 2004 - 10:42 AM PST  
> On January 15, 2004 - 9:02 AM PST bignovas wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Ahhh yes, MST3k.... I'm a long-time fan and own damn near every episode and you can too! Guys check out www.dapcentral.org. This dedicated group of nerds have digitally archived every episode (and specials!) of this fine fine ode to camp cinema, sans officially released episodes. As for episodes on DVD - you can't go wrong with Manos, Mitchell and just get all of the Shorts, you must. If you start doing the DAP - you must check out Santa Claus and Santa Conquers the Martians. I am also very fond of the Incredible Melting man.
> ---------------------------------
Ive checked that sit eout but could never figure out how to DL anything
RWaller
post #19  on January 15, 2004 - 10:55 AM PST  
"They're WILD REBELS .. fruity crunchy Rebels .. pouring milk on them is like shooting off a gun!"

Hey, what was the one with all the waffle stuff? Who remembers that offhand?
Cinenaut
post #20  on January 15, 2004 - 11:40 AM PST  
Pod People was pretty funny. The movie itself is amazing bad in a hilarious way and the commentary just pushes it over the edge.
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