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Those films with a following all their own.

Sans Soleil in SF!!!
Topic by: hamano
Posted: November 19, 2003 - 5:33 PM PST
Last Reply: November 24, 2003 - 11:09 AM PST

author topic: Sans Soleil in SF!!!
post #1  on November 19, 2003 - 5:33 PM PST  
You lucky San Fransicans! One of my most favoritest films EVER, Chris Marker's Sans Soleil is gonna be playing in a theater!!! If you've never seen this, and you agree with at least some of my favorite movie picks in my personal profile, you owe it to yourself to see this since who knows how long it'll be before the film makes it to DVD.

'Sans soleil' plays Nov. 21-27, Castro Theatre, 429 Castro,
S.F. (415) (415) 621-6120. See Rep Clock, in Film listings, for show times.
post #2  on November 19, 2003 - 5:37 PM PST  
Oh, there's lots of stuff about Chris Marker in today's GreenCine Daily!
post #3  on November 19, 2003 - 8:43 PM PST  
it's playing alongside la jetée, too - both the famous ones together.
post #4  on November 19, 2003 - 11:46 PM PST  

La Jetee

There is one shot in La Jetee that is not a still photograph! Look for it!

I'm so jealous!
post #5  on November 19, 2003 - 11:47 PM PST  
Is A.K. playing, too?
post #6  on November 20, 2003 - 2:15 AM PST  
no, no A.K.

i think it's kinda funny

the guy has basically dedicated his brilliant life to annotating left wing movements all over the place but only his technophile poetry is famous

generally the public is only interested in attending a rigged game

we don't want to lose
post #7  on November 20, 2003 - 5:58 AM PST  

> the guy has basically dedicated his brilliant life to annotating left wing movements all over the place but only his technophile poetry is famous


(If that's too cryptic, it means something along the lines of "Yes! Yes! Yes!" or, "I say, old chap, well said. Well said indeed." And so on.)
post #8  on November 20, 2003 - 9:01 AM PST  
post #9  on November 20, 2003 - 10:42 AM PST  
well, he's very good at examining what people think they are doing, and he leaves many subjects at that level of logic. sans soleil shows this well. it's used to better advantage for us in other films, though, because the interview subjects and found footage relate to relatively dangerous or deadly situations, with direct commentary on various romantic ideals of our times, something news organizations shy away from. well, they should, i guess, it is propaganda, but at the same time, when he avoids the usual documentary number fixations, reaching instead into the debris to trace the shifting network of sympathies... and without a journalist's kid-like "fighting in public is bad" point of view... he's looking for the poetic motivations. the fuel.
post #10  on November 20, 2003 - 10:59 AM PST  
post #11  on November 20, 2003 - 12:14 PM PST  
Good call Hamano! I saw this film at a revival screening at the SF Int'l Film Fest a few years ago and was completely mesmerized by it. I remember loving it, but finding parts of it so cryptic I wished I'd had the chance to see it again. Now I do. And then, perhaps, it will get a DVD release at some point?

post #12  on November 20, 2003 - 12:31 PM PST  
post #13  on November 20, 2003 - 2:03 PM PST  
...perhaps, it will get a DVD release at some point?
New Yorker Films still has the rights to it (and a few other Marker films). I suspect that they are not in any rush to make it available on disc, unfortunately. The film is not on their release schedule.
post #14  on November 20, 2003 - 3:30 PM PST  

post #15  on November 21, 2003 - 12:02 PM PST  
wow by that senses of cinema piece is was both astute and misleading... what a good day i had yesterday.
post #16  on November 21, 2003 - 12:03 PM PST  
erase erase erase

wow by that senses of cinema piece i was both astute and misleading... what a good day i had yesterday.
post #17  on November 21, 2003 - 12:33 PM PST  

> erase erase erase
> what a good day i had yesterday.

Now you're just rubbing it in my face! I hate getting chalk dust in my eyes...
post #18  on November 23, 2003 - 6:31 PM PST  
as will eisner put it a few years after sans soleil, "the phenomenon of duration and its experience - commonly referred to as 'time' - is a dimension integral to sequential art."

i think i have pretty much caught up with sans soleil's material from when i first saw it in 1999. i forgot most of what i saw that first time, because i didn't understand what it was talking about. this time i knew it a little better, for instance i know where hokkaido and guinea-bissau are and more important, i can work them into a messy history of the last century. (i'm alarmedly running through what i think i've learned since that first time - how many of my recent research projects did that movie, then, inspire? marker would love that...)

seeing the two back to back turns la jetée into a response to vertigo and sans soleil into fiction - i trusted the narrator better when it stood alone - "i don't know" felt so much like "my theory doesn't allow me to tell you" that i couldn't tell them apart.
post #19  on November 23, 2003 - 9:45 PM PST  
Wow, you didn't see it until 1999? I've only seen it once, back in the early '80s... It's like a virus. The images get in your brain and start lives of their own. I'm almost afraid to see it again, but I probably could use a booster shot.
post #20  on November 24, 2003 - 11:09 AM PST  
yes, 1999. i didn't really see anything until then. funny tho, underdog and i might have been sitting next to each other for all we know now. if i remember right it broke once or twice during the screening because they were running it from one projector to show it to two houses simutaneously. so this time is the first time i've seen it straight through, and even now, it played as an epilogue of sorts to la jetée. i'm not sure i've yet seen the thing.

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