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Foreign DVDs MIA
Topic by: Eoliano
Posted: November 15, 2002 - 11:50 AM PST
Last Reply: December 31, 2002 - 7:04 PM PST

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author topic: Foreign DVDs MIA
Eoliano
post #1  on November 15, 2002 - 11:50 AM PST  
Here are a few foreign and offshore titles currently missing in action on DVD.

1900
Battle of Algiers
Becket
Blowup
The Conformist
The Damned
La Dolce vita
Fahrenheit 451
Hard Boiled
Hiroshima, Mon Amour
The Killer
Knife in the Water
The Leopard
Masculin-Feminin
The Mission
O Lucky Man!
The Passenger
Once Upon a Time in America
Once Upon a Time in the West
Performance
Quemada!
Repulsion
The Rules of the Game
Le Samourai
La Strada*
The Tenant
Tokyo Story  or any Ozu for that matter.
Weekend

Some of these titles were in the Criterion catalog, but because of rights or other legal issues, have been omitted. A return of Criterion DVDs like The 400 Blows and the Woo films would be terrific.

*Announced for 2003 release by Criterion.

Add to the foreign DVD MIA list.
dpowers
post #2  on November 15, 2002 - 1:40 PM PST  
> Tokyo Story or any Ozu for that matter.

the second ozu film i saw, good morning ("ohayo"), is here at GC and available. an animator friend of mine who's also a japanophile likes this one the best of ozu's movies. it is a little different, a little younger in its point of view, even compared to the original i was born, but... or to record of a tenement gentleman.

starting out with the ozu movies where kids are razzing japanese class gentility gives a different feel to the many other movies populated by old folks ruminating on alienation from family, though the subject is still the impact of the middle generation (the present) on the lives of the past and the future.

you know that's interesting because that almost makes roujin z an ozu tribute.
oldkingcole
post #3  on November 15, 2002 - 5:34 PM PST  
> On November 15, 2002 - 11:50 AM PST Eoliano wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Here are a few foreign and offshore titles currently missing in action on DVD.

> Hard Boiled
> The Killer

Did Hard Boiled and The Killer go out of print AGAIN??! Amazon lists Hard Boiled as "usually ships in 1-2 business days" (not conclusive, but it suggests it might still be in print). The first printing went out of print, but then a new edition came out a year or so ago. It *should* still be in print. But since I already have my copy (the second edition of The Killer and Hard Boiled came together in a two-title box set called "The John Woo Collection"), I really haven't checked its availability in a while.

I hate that the companies who own the rights don't seem able to keep titles in print for more than a year or so!
Eoliano
post #4  on November 16, 2002 - 7:39 AM PST  
Thanks for the heads up on the Ozu DVD, DP, I'm sure it's an excellent film, and the DVD has the usual Criterion treatment. But that is just one little Ozu film.

As to Hard Boiled & The Killer, I mentioned these in relation to their OOP status at Criterion, though I am glad to see that Fox Lorber has them in print.

Jacques Tati's films are OOP again! Pourquoi?

Now, how about a contribution by adding to the foreign DVD MIA list.




dpowers
post #5  on November 16, 2002 - 9:40 AM PST  
> how about a contribution by adding to the foreign DVD MIA list. <

are you keeping a list of everything? i've lost track.

now that so many indian movies are available on DVD it's a shame about no satyajit ray DVDs. other fur'n directors currently being shafted include chantal akerman; a lot of good bergman; sara driver; aleksei guerman; king hu; ann hui; the brothers kaurismäki; otar iosseliani; the makhmalbaf family's films (though you could say "they're recent, no worries," kiarostami's movies get here pretty fast); djibril diop mambéty; chris marker; nagisa oshima in the 60s; glauber rocha; ousmane sembene; mauritz stiller; béla tarr; tian zhuangzhuang; jean vigo.

it's not comprehensive and i think some of this is duplication from single movies mentioned before.
dwhudson
post #6  on November 16, 2002 - 3:37 PM PST  
Part of this, too, is this whole blasted, artificial and entirely unnecessary "Region" partitioning again. Not so much for the older films, but for smaller films that have been released since the advent of the DVD. There are times when I see fine little European films released over here that I just know no US distributor is going to bother with. But we wouldn't need a separate deal to be struck if a DVD were playable anywhere and everywhere, just as CDs are.
dpowers
post #7  on November 17, 2002 - 2:51 AM PST  
> Part of this, too, is this whole blasted, artificial and entirely unnecessary "Region" partitioning again. ... we wouldn't need a separate deal to be struck if a DVD were playable anywhere and everywhere, just as CDs are. <

"thank you for calling the motion picture association of america international hotline. we have test marketed your phone number and believe now is not the right time to take your call. if you would like to reach an operator, call back in the third week of december, next year.

"we have recently received a number of calls regarding the inconvenience of DVD region codes. to simplify your calling experience, we have added menu options to handle these new calls.

"press '1' to explain why anybody in region 1 would give a shit about your so-called movie.

"press '2' to instantly donate $1 billion US dollars to the global digital on demand entertainment cartel. every little bit helps.

"press '3' to submit a complaint about existing copyright law, region codes, or film distribution directly to a waste basket. all suggestions are recycled because we care.

"press '4' to surrender, or to buy tickets for the american film playing at the movie theater you're standing in front of, or to receive a free jar of wax for your critical acclaim."

['3']

"i'm sorry. the voice mail system you have called can only be operated from inside the continental united states. goodbye."
Eoliano
post #8  on November 19, 2002 - 4:21 PM PST  
> On November 16, 2002 - 3:37 PM PST dwhudson wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Part of this, too, is this whole blasted, artificial and entirely unnecessary "Region" partitioning again. Not so much for the older films, but for smaller films that have been released since the advent of the DVD. There are times when I see fine little European films released over here that I just know no US distributor is going to bother with. But we wouldn't need a separate deal to be struck if a DVD were playable anywhere and everywhere, just as CDs are.


Name some titles for me.

You know, some of the Italian films I have seen in the last two years at festivals have made onto region 2 DVDs in Italy.

To name a few - Tornando a casa, I Cento passi, Placido Rizzotto & Ti voglio bene Eugenio.

dwhudson
post #9  on November 20, 2002 - 6:55 AM PST  

> Name some titles for me.

Oh, there are loads of titles. From mainstream fare like b.angeled (interweaving stories at the Love Parade) to more artsy stuff like Eine Hand voll Gras to older fare like Aus einem deutschem Leben (1977, in which Götz George plays Fritz Lang).

Many, many, many titles. In fact, because I have a .de email address, whenever I look up movies at the IMDB, they have a little window in which they show the film's availability on DVD and/or VHS from Amazon dotcom, dot-co-uk and dot-de. I have no idea how many films are available on Region 2 DVD but not Region 1, but it's loads and loads.
Eoliano
post #10  on November 23, 2002 - 9:58 AM PST  

>> I have no idea how many films are available on Region 2 DVD but not Region 1, but it's loads and loads.


I am always looking for Region 2 DVDs that are on my wish list and often check amazon.uk, de and fr, not to mention other European retailers in the hopes of finding some of them. It's unfortunate that so many EU DVDs don't have English subtitles though. As I mentioned elsewhere on the boards, it's amazing that European DVD manufacturers and distributors wouldn't want to capture a wider customer base by having more subtitle options.

dwhudson
post #11  on November 25, 2002 - 1:03 AM PST  
> .... it's amazing that European DVD manufacturers and distributors wouldn't want to capture a wider customer base by having more subtitle options.

I wonder if it's a legal thing. On some German DVDs, not all, but enough to make it irritating, you can opt for the original English-language soundtrack but you must also have German subtitles along with it. There's always a note on the jacket and at the beginning of the DVD that, for unexplained legal reasons, you cannot get rid of these subtitles, which inevitably appear within the frame of the film, i.e., not in the black bar beneath.

Like I say, that doesn't happen too often, but it is ridiculous.
Eoliano
post #12  on December 2, 2002 - 10:12 AM PST  
>> There's always a note on the jacket and at the beginning of the DVD that, for unexplained legal reasons, you cannot get rid of these subtitles, which inevitably appear within the frame of the film, i.e., not in the black bar beneath.

Indeed, this would be most disturbing while watching a DVD, although I've not yet experienced this. It will certainly be something to keep an eye on when buying DVDs from amazon.de.



Eoliano
post #13  on December 3, 2002 - 4:03 PM PST  
It's unfortunate that Satyajit Ray's films are only available on VHS, though not The Music Room or The Chess Players. But hopefully this situation will change and we'll get to have a good deal more coming out of India other than Bollywood romances and lackluster adventure films.
dpowers
post #14  on December 3, 2002 - 5:13 PM PST  
> It's unfortunate that Satyajit Ray's films are only available on VHS, though not The Music Room or The Chess Players. But hopefully this situation will change and we'll get to have a good deal more coming out of India other than Bollywood romances and lackluster adventure films. <

this summer i read the film comment articles about bollywood and i've seen a bunch of the movies since then. i agree with one of the articles, the indian movies from the 1950s have been underrated. they're a real pleasure to get to see. it's true that the drama is sometimes simple, but the songs aren't, and the balance struck is special. (ugh, the article's not online, and i don't have the magazine, i think i lent it to someone.)

i saw the music room (jalsaghar) on a new VHS tape not two years ago. it's was fixed up in the same group as the apu trilogy. it's still available.
Eoliano
post #15  on December 3, 2002 - 7:28 PM PST  

>> i saw the music room (jalsaghar) on a new VHS tape not two years ago. it's was fixed up in the same group as the apu trilogy. it's still available.

I stand corrected, The Music Room is in print on VHS.

NeilCresswell
post #16  on December 29, 2002 - 5:10 PM PST  
Go easy on me folks - this is my first post here so be kind. ;>

My wish list for Japanese films yet to make it to DVD land:

Dora Heita (come to think of it, this isn't on VHS either)
Shall We Dance?

It is a very short list I know but I really, really would love to see these available on DVD.

Neil.
dpowers
post #17  on December 29, 2002 - 6:33 PM PST  
dora heita... yeah... and where the hell is eureka? it screened in the bay area in 2001, i think... a video no-show.
Eoliano
post #18  on December 29, 2002 - 6:33 PM PST  
Hey Neil!

Do you mean Shall We Dansu? Directed by
Masayuki Suo?

I'd never even heard of Ichikawa's Dora-heita before. Was it ever distributed in the US?


Eoliano
post #19  on December 29, 2002 - 6:35 PM PST  
Which Eureka DP?

Eureka (1974)
Eureka (1983)
Eureka! (1913)
Eureka (1999)
Eureka (2000)
ˇEureka!(1998)
Eoliano
post #20  on December 29, 2002 - 6:37 PM PST  

Doh.

Something tells me it's the Japanese film by Shinji Aoyama.

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