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Japanese, Korean, Chinese Thread
Topic by: lizzoqops
Posted: January 14, 2005 - 6:02 PM PST
Last Reply: June 7, 2006 - 4:43 AM PDT

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author topic: Japanese, Korean, Chinese Thread
lizzoqops
post #1  on January 14, 2005 - 6:02 PM PST  
Ok, I had to start this because I'm too lazy to click through the Korean thread that many times.

And I just watched "Stereo Future". What a charming movie! It's funny, it's sad, it's silly, and it's so optimistic. And Takenaka is in it. I can't believe I put off watching this one for so long.
markhl
post #2  on January 14, 2005 - 11:26 PM PST  
Hmm.. passing by, I thought the thread was meant for people of those heritages only... :) 'guess ChinJaKo got replaced with JaKoChin..

BTW, if you use use the link of your recent posts from your profile, you wouldn't have had to scroll through all those pages of random nonsense-I-mean-information in that board. I thought you would've known that by now.. tsk tsk..

In terms of movies, I STILL haven't seen Iwaii Shunji's Love Letter yet despite having the DVD sitting 2 inches from the player. I re-watched Ping Pong again for some reason however in that time frame. Well, I needed something light. I also re-watched 2LDK and still absolutely think that that was the better half of the "Dual Project" along with Aragami. Sorry Kitamura fans!

Perhaps this would be a good place to discuss jointly-produced movies? I know some korean-chinese and korean-japanese ones came out recently and it would appear that they are slowly increasing the frequency of such collaborative efforts. I wonder if the other countries have also increased joint movies as well.. The only caveat is that I still haven't seen any though that was very well made - or thought was enhanced by having a mixed bag of actors. But then again, who am I to criticize?
hamano
post #3  on January 15, 2005 - 4:45 AM PST  
NOTE:

This thread is a continuation of markhl's Your Impressions of Korean Cinema? forum. You can still read many of markhl's Korean cinema recommendations there! In fact, that's how I found out about Sex is Zero which explained a lot of stuff I know about markhl and made such a deep impression on me... Too bad it's not available on DVD like some of the other interesting titles that were discussed there, LIKE THESE. Hmmm... I wonder what Dogi Pu is about.... sounds more like Thai than Korean...
hamano
post #4  on January 15, 2005 - 4:47 AM PST  
Oh, THAT one was jointly produced by Oh-Sung Kwon and Fido!
hamano
post #5  on January 15, 2005 - 4:57 AM PST  
Hmmm... I wonder if the film can be read allegorically, with the protagonist of the title, DP, representing the entire nation of Korea, while the other countries of the world are represented by the other cruel characters... but then who is the Dandelion? North Korea? The USA? A completely opposite political spin depending on your interpretation.

On the other hand, DP must have a completely different take on the phrase, Meet your maker! despite some of the Christian themes woven into the narrative... But of course God spelled backwards is Dog! Now why didn't I think of that before? What a clever little movie!
lizzoqops
post #6  on January 15, 2005 - 8:06 AM PST  
> On January 14, 2005 - 11:26 PM PST markhl wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Hmm.. passing by, I thought the thread was meant for people of those heritages only... :) 'guess ChinJaKo got replaced with JaKoChin..
>

Well, since everybody else was too lazy to start the new thread...they'll figure it out. Or not. I didn't mean to change the name. I'm not married to it.

> BTW, if you use use the link of your recent posts from your profile, you wouldn't have had to scroll through all those pages of random nonsense-I-mean-information in that board. I thought you would've known that by now.. tsk tsk..
>

Most of the time, I remember to go here because I see it in Most Active Threads. So I should click on my own name? That's another bunch of clicking!

> In terms of movies, I STILL haven't seen Iwaii Shunji's Love Letter yet despite having the DVD sitting 2 inches from the player. I re-watched Ping Pong again for some reason however in that time frame. Well, I needed something light. I also re-watched 2LDK and still absolutely think that that was the better half of the "Dual Project" along with Aragami. Sorry Kitamura fans!
>

I totally agree. And I saw "2LDK" from the front row at the Bridge. It was really good, since I don't remember being all that uncomfortable.

And I still have "Turning Gate" and "Bungee Jumping" sitting here, I haven't watched them yet. Maybe today.

Last night I watched Ken Takakura in "Abashiri Prison". It was cool. He's not as cool as Bunta, though.

markhl
post #7  on January 15, 2005 - 11:54 AM PST  
> On January 15, 2005 - 4:45 AM PST hamano wrote:
> Hmmm... I wonder what Dogi Pu is about.... sounds more like Thai than Korean...

Actually, that's a vietnamese remake of the movie on the front pages of this website 301, 302. And the name of the dish is Doggie Pho, truly worthy creation from the new vietnamese Iron Sous Chef featured in the e-game. Unfortunately, one of the panel of judges retired from GC earlier in the year in response to the radical creation however it was one of my surprise feel-good films of 2004.

See? All the threads are actually talking about the same thing.
markhl
post #8  on January 15, 2005 - 12:03 PM PST  
> On January 15, 2005 - 8:06 AM PST lizzoqops wrote:
> That's another bunch of clicking!

lazybutt!


> I totally agree. And I saw "2LDK" from the front row at the Bridge. It was really good, since I don't remember being all that uncomfortable.

Hey... I was sitting in the nosebleed section in the same theatre! I saw many freshman year college roommates reconciling their differences in the hallway after the movie. Truly a thought-provoking film...


> And I still have "Turning Gate" and "Bungee Jumping" sitting here, I haven't watched them yet. Maybe today.

Umm.. watch Bungee Jumpin... first.. and last...
lizzoqops
post #9  on January 18, 2005 - 10:46 AM PST  
Instead of watching something new, I watched "OLDBOY" again. That is one fantastic movie. It's supposed to be released in theaters soon (February), and I'll watch it again.

I also saw "The Ballad of Narayama". Beautiful cinematography, and once you get the jist of what is going on, a great story about the basic elements of life. I read somewhere that Imamura's version is a remake, but I doubt I'll find the original anytime soon.
Eoliano
post #10  on January 18, 2005 - 12:58 PM PST  
> I also saw "The Ballad of Narayama". Beautiful cinematography, and once you get the jist of what is going on, a great story about the basic elements of life. I read somewhere that Imamura's version is a remake, but I doubt I'll find the original anytime soon.

I don't know that Imamura's The Ballad of Narayama is a remake per se, it's more likely a retelling of the famous legend, i.e., Chushingura has been done and redone and none of the versions that I've seen resemble one another.

Anxiously awaiting Oldboy...
hamano
post #11  on January 18, 2005 - 2:04 PM PST  
> On January 18, 2005 - 12:58 PM PST Eoliano wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> I don't know that Imamura's The Ballad of Narayama is a remake per se, it's more likely a retelling of the famous legend, i.e., Chushingura has been done and redone and none of the versions that I've seen resemble one another.

The earlier filmed version had the exact same title, Narayama Bushiko, and was directed by Keisuke Kinoshita who directed about 50 movies between WW2 and the late 1980's.

His version is famous for using Japanese Kabuki/Bunraku theater conventions in framing the story, which is based on a novel by Shichiro Fukazawa (whose stories about the poor mountain villagers of the Tohoku Region was also the basis of Kon Ichikawa's short, Tohoku no zunmu-tachi).

I believe Fukazawa's novel was a specific story he wrote based on legends that were told about a tradition practiced by many isolated mountain villages at one time.
markhl
post #12  on January 18, 2005 - 5:41 PM PST  
Ah.. the old boy OST is looping endlessly in my minipod.. I hadn't heard of it getting released in theatres yet - I want to go to see it again on the big screen with the audience reaction to boot. I suppose it's too big a film to hope for as an entry into our humble little Philly IFF (T-minus < 3 months!!!!)

Any predictions as to the japanese films that'll be invited this year lizzo? A wishlist is fine too :) Would asking for Twilight Samurai be too much? As for korean films, I really hope to see Arahan come (perfect candidate for this festival), A Moment to Remember, and Spider Forrest. I hope they avoid the pitfalls of another Jeon Ji-Hyun movie titled Windstruck - based on past success - and a bad horror called Hypnotized. The year's pretty lite I thought - once you remove the "big names" that probably won't make it here :)

-----

On a side note, has any of you seen either Kao (2000) or Afterlife (1998, a.k.a. Wandafuru Raifu) Just from the descrption/review, they seem like my type of movies...
Eoliano
post #13  on January 18, 2005 - 5:55 PM PST  
> Any predictions as to the japanese films that'll be invited this year lizzo? A wishlist is fine too :) Would asking for Twilight Samurai be too much?

You can always rent Twilight Samurai if you like although the DVD is non-anamorphic and unfortunately, it's a very poor transfer...
frannieb
post #14  on January 18, 2005 - 7:24 PM PST  

> And I still have "Turning Gate" and "Bungee Jumping" sitting here, I haven't watched them yet. Maybe today.


sorry for such a dorky question, but did you get turning gate from greencine? i didn't think they had it?

is it any good (for those who've seen it) cause i have heard some good things?

markhl
post #15  on January 18, 2005 - 8:38 PM PST  
wah wah! But I wanna see Twilight Samurai on the BIG screen! wah wah! :) (actually, I thought it was late 2003 but GC says 2002 for that one so it's a bit out of date for a 2005 IFF)


> On January 18, 2005 - 7:24 PM PST frannieb wrote:
> sorry for such a dorky question, but did you get turning gate from greencine? i didn't think they had it?

no problem. It's not available in GC. We're cheating and discussing films that we have seen by other means as well.


> is it any good (for those who've seen it) cause i have heard some good things?

It's very minimalistic and fairly consistent with the known style of the director, Hong Sang Soo, if you've caught his other works in the past. It requires quite a bit of patience.. some of which I lack. It is not one of those I wouldn't blindly recommend to people but is very highly regarded by korean cinemaophiles. So I think the experience would vary highly among different people. As for me of a couple of years ago, I thought it was TOO minimalistic and couldn't help but wonder if he didn't just throw a few actors in front of a camera and just simply shot what was there. After all, it was known for its scriptless and editless production. Some people would call it masterful and raw.. some people would call it pointless and without focus. If you view Turning Gate BY ITSELF (i.e. not in context of his other films), then I still am leaning toward the latter. It's not that the film is bad (I'd still watch it).. but I just don't get the fuss.
lizzoqops
post #16  on January 18, 2005 - 11:14 PM PST  
Oh, yeah, I got a wish list...

Nobody Knows: this could happen, right? It's been almost a year since Cannes.

Oldboy: Could play the festival, or be playing at the same time. The release date I saw today says March 25th.

Zebraman: I would love to see this on the big screen. It's a great movie, lots of fun and Sho is hot when he...oops, I don't wanna spoil this for anyone : )

Vital: The new Tsukamoto, with Tandanobu Asano. It's playing in New York next month, so it could also happen.

Survive Style 5+: DVD is getting released this month in Japan, so it's possible. Asano is also in this, with Hiroshi Abe and Sonny Chiba.

Blood and Bone: The new Kitano is supposed to be amazing.

Another Public Enemy: Well, it's a wishlist. The Korean release date is Jan. 27th.

What we'll probably get:
3 Extremes
Izo
The Taste of Tea (fine, Asano is in this, too, man, he was busy last year, which is fine with me)
Spider Forest (I could watch that again, it was interesting)
Bin-Jip (ditto, I really love this movie)

I'd like to see "Twilight Samurai" on the big screen, too, but I think it played Philly for a minute or so.

More on this as time gets closer. Can't wait!
Eoliano
post #17  on January 19, 2005 - 10:23 AM PST  
> Nobody Knows: this could happen, right?
>
>I'd like to see "Twilight Samurai" on the big screen, too, but I think it played Philly for a minute or so.

Fyi, IFC picked up the theatrical distribution rights for Nobody Knows, so keep the faith. Twilight Samurai is still making the rounds here in SoCal and I hope to see it again on the big screen, however, I bet it only lasts a week when and if it ever plays locally. Both Nobody Knows and Twilight Samurai played at the PSIFF where I was fortunate enough to catch both films.

A friend of mine recently saw Blood and Bones and thought it was terrific; check out Mark Shilling's Top 10 Japanese films for 2004.
markhl
post #18  on January 19, 2005 - 10:56 AM PST  
> On January 19, 2005 - 10:23 AM PST Eoliano wrote:
> Mark Shilling's Top 10 Japanese films for 2004.


Wait.. Casshern and Shimotsuma Monogatari (Kamikaze Girls) were in this guy's top 10? I guess the latter is worth a closer look.. maybe.. I have it sitting around somewhere.. somewhere..
lizzoqops
post #19  on January 20, 2005 - 11:25 AM PST  
Mark Shilling loves to spoil movies in his reviews. Beware visiting Japan Times too much.

So, where are those other wish lists?

Last night I watched "Sancho the Baliff". I have mixed feelings about it, probably because I read too much about it before I actually got to see it. And it would be better to see this in a theater, I suppose, as the landscape and cinematography play a big part in the mood of it. And maybe a nice dvd version would help. I saw the Janus vhs version. It wasn't bad, but not great. The subs were at least intelligible, unlike the Panorama version of "Hunter in the Dark" that I tried to watch. I couldn't finish it, the subs were so bad.
hamano
post #20  on January 20, 2005 - 1:51 PM PST  
> On January 20, 2005 - 11:25 AM PST lizzoqops wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Last night I watched "Sancho the Baliff".

Was that the musical version with knights and windmills and stuff?
Anjuuuuuuu!
Zushioooooooo!
Anjuuuuuuu!
Zushioooooooo!


The story of those siblings is one of Japan's legendary tearjerkers.
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