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Galapagos Cinema
Topic by: dpowers
Posted: January 17, 2003 - 8:45 AM PST
Last Reply: February 27, 2003 - 10:06 PM PST

author topic: Galapagos Cinema
post #1  on January 17, 2003 - 8:45 AM PST  
A forum for discussing Cinema from the Galapagos Islands.
post #2  on January 19, 2003 - 11:10 AM PST  
I was going to make my own list of 'Cinemanco Galapagueno', but was discouraged by the lack of Galapagueno titles in GreenCine's catalog! Sure there's Kenneth Branagh's Galapagos and the classic musical Darwin!, but where's Thor Heyerdahl's classic 1955 documentary?, or the quintessential Galapagos movie 'SOS Conspiracion Bikini'? I can't make a list with only 2 titles!

Perhaps things would be different if Archduke Pelago had not granted asylum to Che Guevara in 1967 against the protests of the LBJ administration. The resulting backlash effectively ruined the careers of Rene Cardona Jr, Joaquin Cordero, and The Turtles.

The controversy had lingering effect for years; most famously, when Louis Malle was pressured to remove all the Galapagos scenes from My Dinner With Andre in 1981.

The tragic death of cinematoghrapher Noel Archambault in an ultralight crash in 1998 has not stemmed the recent resurgence of Galapagos movies thanks to the efforts of the great Canadian actor Trevor White and the popular Budweiser ad campaigns set there.
post #3  on January 19, 2003 - 11:38 AM PST  
what a great wrap up!

of archambault's work mutiny on the beagle really stands out, i think it's my favorite. revolutionary handling of rock lighting. the shot, from under the water, of the natives (all non-professionals but so good) violently pulling up grass, chewing it as the boats land, it's a brilliant way to capture that conflict so clearly, between, grass, i mean.

i'm not a fan of cordero, though. i saw galapago-go and turtle prison riot! last year at the werepad, i think i heard too much about them, they didn't live up to their reputation, you know? but what you said makes me think, they must have been made after the trouble with che....
post #4  on January 20, 2003 - 8:40 AM PST  
Finally, a tread with a poipoise! Yeah.
post #5  on January 20, 2003 - 8:55 AM PST  

> i'm not a fan of cordero, though.

I would urge you, implore you to reconsider, D. If you fail to see the absolutely devasting postcolonial critique of late 17th century Galapogoan migration patterns in Turtle Prison Riot!, God help you. What were you drinking? Remind me to send you the URL for a piece Frantz Fanon did for Condé Nast Traveler, one of the most phenomenal readings of that film you'll ever come across. I promise you, you'll never look at a bowl of turtle soup in quite the same way again.

post #6  on January 20, 2003 - 10:28 AM PST  
DAVID HUDSON WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU!!!! i usually read your posts and learn so much from them and what is this, what is this, what kind of GROTESQUE FANBOY HASH HAVE YOU BEEN SMOKING, cordero as metaphor? a few too many hours in front of the TV staring at b-movie t&a you are losing it TOTALLY!!!!!!

the only REAL ANALYSIS of the tragic pre-colombian, post-colonial paralysis of native growers in the face of increasing industrial pressure to consume less and unified experience of nature, the living earth, and the will to survive insurmountable anachronistic dichotomies and prophesies of variegated watersports. everybody knows this, it's angelina maria lüffer, and her MASTERPIECE an impossible migration/¿es ése su calcetín? - the linking of springtime, flightless birds, and the poisoning of the political landscape. nobody went further in their analysis and we owe her such a debt!

you could not be MORE WRONG
post #7  on January 20, 2003 - 10:47 AM PST  
oops i forgot to say faultless
post #8  on January 20, 2003 - 3:43 PM PST  
> you could not be MORE WRONG

(Oh, yeah? Just watch. [g])

I don't know whether to be more disappointed in the level of discourse into which you seem bent on ditching this conversation on one of the world's great cinemas or in your shameless efforts to pawn off one of the most pretentious "works" of Cordero's most ruthlessly self-serving protégé as a "MASTERPIECE".

Surely such implausible pap as Impossible Migration/¿Es ése su Calcetín?, with its willful ignorance of such well-known interpretations of the real relationship between flightlessness and poisoned politics as Gustav Uphinkle's ¿Que?/Who Pissed on My Political Conscience?, its obvious rip-off of the 39-minute rape sequence in Cordero's See That Rock Over There? It's Mine. All Mine...?...!![...;], its bland use of the magenta range in the 35mm stock imported directly from Bucharest, despite that stock's widely known and lauded magenta range, its persistent tendency to fall back on pre-Structuralist lighting techniques just, you know, for effect, its blatant exclusion of the merest mention of Ferdinand Ferdinand Ferdinand, though he is ostensibly, her subject (I mean, jeez, she even persuaded the guy to take on the role himself -- well, where is he? Seriously. Where is he?) and... well, need I go on?

Without resorting to personal slurs, certainly it's common knowledge that it was Angelina Maria Lüffer's failure on the casting couch that led her to pick up a camera in the first place. Galapogoan cinema has never recovered.

David, do me a favor. No, do yourself a favor. Reconsider the mentor. Head back to the source. You won't be sorry.

post #9  on January 21, 2003 - 4:33 PM PST  
You guys need help, serious help.


PS: Does TURTLE ISLAND DIARY count as Galapagos Cinema?

post #10  on January 21, 2003 - 5:18 PM PST  
I love all you sickos and am glad you're members. I think this is the reason we started this service ;)


Dennis "Galapagos Now" Woo
Managing Partner, GreenCine

> On January 21, 2003 - 4:33 PM PST underdog8 wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> You guys need help, serious help.
> C
> PS: Does TURTLE ISLAND DIARY count as Galapagos Cinema?
> ;-)
> ---------------------------------

post #11  on January 21, 2003 - 5:24 PM PST  
> PS: Does TURTLE ISLAND DIARY count as Galapagos Cinema? <

[snort] does sans soleil count as japanese? does bowling for columbine count as dutch? please.
post #12  on January 21, 2003 - 6:56 PM PST  
1, Isla Floreana, Galapagos Islands, ECUADOR

January 21, 2003

Mr. Hudson:

It has come to the attention of our client, Angelina María LÜFFER, that you have made certain statements about her personal affairs in regard to her prestigious and lengthy filmmaking career. She has authorized us to communicate further with you regarding this and other possible points of conflict that she has in turn brought to our attention.

Our client wished to personally and categorically deny that sexual relations with her acquaintance, Joaquin CORDERO, played any part in their subsequent parting of ways, or in the birth of their first child. Our client further insinuated that you had a very unappetizing sexual disease and that the form of your attack was completely predictable, as "the closest you come to understanding poetics is that stupid, lame dirty limerick you always trot out at film festival receptions."

Similarly, our client is unfazed by the natural tendency you show for crediting her stylistic innovations to others, or discarding them entirely. As published in the interview with Dominique CALMAR in Rien du cinéma (March 14, 1978), our client's first feature film, ¿Es ése su Calcetín?, introduced her concept of subjective absence. To quote:

I believe that to be pure cinema, a film must look past its subject, and explore that which the subject leaves behind in a scene, the traces of meaning that can be gleaned from those parts of the scene hidden by the subject's physical or metaphysical form. ... To find this incredibly delicate state of purpose, of evaluative perception, one must find a strong subject, in this case Ferdinand Ferdinand FERDINAND, ... frame the shot aggressively to attend the gaze of the camera, then have the subject step out of the frame and himself operate the camera to take the shot. ... In this way we find a longing in the composition that is breathtaking and yet, indistinct, and gentle.

Articles and interviews can be cited for nearly all the charges you bring against our client's artistic ability. In particular, it is well documented that the negatives of ¿Es ése su Calcetín? were first fully bleached and then selectively highlighted to reproduce the famous magenta tint of the Bucharest stock. Factual errors of this nature are unexpected of someone of your critical reputation.

We must advise you that if you continue in your unceasing intoxicated slander of this pure and honey-lustered woman, we are prepared to temporarily or permanently halt the monthly payments to you from your grandfather's estate.

In Respect,


Wolfgang Amadeus DINWY

post #13  on January 21, 2003 - 6:56 PM PST  
> PS: Does TURTLE ISLAND DIARY count as Galapagos Cinema? <

[snort] does sans soleil count as japanese? does bowling for columbine count as dutch? please.
post #14  on January 21, 2003 - 8:09 PM PST  
> Does TURTLE ISLAND DIARY count ... <

it might, what is it? the rozier movie?
post #15  on January 22, 2003 - 1:56 AM PST  

marco, honey, if you can hear me, pick up the phone, okay? marco? mar-co!

oh, is it just me and the machine again? it is? well machine, you gave me your best hello, and what do i have to give you, not good news.

marco, what do you think i should do with my sister? should i bail her out again? how can one woman get herself in so much trouble, so regularly. she's so regular. the jail food must be high in fiber. okay okay sorry.

i don't have the cash to bail her out so - don't kill me - i'm going to fly over and up put some of the - you're going to kill me but i think you know - we don't have anything else they'll take baby and - okay i'm sorry.

oh i can see how mad you're going to be. listen, just listen. i think with the advance for the commercial we should be able to get the equipment back before we need to start shooting. okay? okay.

when i get back - no when i get there i'll call you. i love you so much. when i get back you can tell me why i have such no good relatives and what do i do with them.

don't forget tonight to take back the coat we borrowed. stay warm tonight, wear it on the way! goodbye sweetheart.

last recorded words of noah archambault
post #16  on February 16, 2003 - 11:54 PM PST  
Galapagos Islands mistaken for prank
Film festival entry rejected because "nothing is out there"

(02-16) 10:35 PST BERLIN (AP) -- Berlin International Film Festival Director Dieter Kosslick today answered charges that a film produced in the Galapagos Islands was excluded from the festival program because festival staff assumed the submitted address for the production company was "a joke."

"We regret the omission," Kosslick said in a prepared statement. "It is unfortunate. Our intent is to include films from every part of the world and I think this makes the Berlinale quite special. What also makes us special is the playful, inquisitive spirit of Berliners, which shows most in our sense of humor. We had received many satirical communications that day."

He added, "We will take unusual entry forms more seriously in the future, certainly."

The film, Uno más/In My Heart, without Soldiers or Season, Violins Can Be Fatal, is a difficult romantic comedy set during a tropical storm on the remote island chain. It is the first feature film by Galapagueno writer/director Excelsior Cordero.

Galapagos Island officials could not be reached for comment, but Cordero had strong words for both Festival Director Kosslick and the international film community. "I am outraged because I do not believe this could have been accidental. Too many years, our films have been ignored or dismissed from international competition. It cannot continue this way. This insult cannot stand."

"My film is very good. It is not a joke. If they had seen it, it would have altered their lives, their desires, very much. I am so sad they cheated themselves this way." Next time, he added, "there will be no question where it came from, or what it deserved."

Though they have never won a major film festival competition, many films from the Galapagos Islands are considered avant garde classics. However it is the intensely psychedelic animal exploitation films of the 1970s that have drawn film audiences' attention to the islands over the years.
post #17  on February 26, 2003 - 10:05 AM PST  
AP - Populated the Galapagos Islands. Cover over. Average rainfall and climate, situated centrally, very aware! Safe for chewing.
post #18  on February 26, 2003 - 12:05 PM PST  
Wow. I'm late coming to the party, but that's amazing. There's so much to learn!

Favorite Galapagoan joke:

A man from Galapagos goes into a bar wearing a red armband on his sleeve. Bartender says, "Hey, buddy, what's the armband for? Somebody die?"

"No," says the man, "a black armband is what you wear when someone you know has died. This red armband means that the Revolution is coming and all pigs will die up against the wall like pigs! As a matter of fact, I'm claiming this bar for the people."

"Okay," said the bartender. "Then what would the People like to drink?"

"Freedom!" said the man. "And a beer!"

[translator's notes: Some terminology was untranslatable, such as the fact that Galapagoans have two different words for "pigs" with two different shades of meanings. We've done what we can to bridge the cultural gap to share Galapagoan humor with the world, as is the People's will, and apologize for any lack of clarity.]
post #19  on February 27, 2003 - 10:06 PM PST  

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