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Cinema Giallo
Topic by: Eoliano
Posted: January 31, 2003 - 4:18 PM PST
Last Reply: September 30, 2005 - 4:23 PM PDT

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author topic: Cinema Giallo
Eoliano
post #1  on January 31, 2003 - 4:18 PM PST  
For those of you who like to scare the hell out of yourselves, there is an excellent article at Images on The Golden Age of Italian Horror.
Eoliano
post #2  on January 31, 2003 - 4:18 PM PST  
And for the collector and connoisseur, Digital Terror awaits you.
hamano
post #3  on October 29, 2003 - 7:43 AM PST  
I read this primer and I'm still confused. Is giallo a horror genre or a thriller genre? It sounds like giallo are thrillers with some kind of masked killer and maybe some surrealistic stylish touches, like Dressed to Kill and Basic Instinct. Sometimes the lead character is investigating on his/her own. Sometimes there are psychological elements that explore whether the lead character is sane (or awake). But giallo films are always popping up in discussions and articles about Italian horror. Is there a transitional gray area between the horror and thriller genres?
This list doesn't help to clear things up...
hamano
post #4  on October 29, 2003 - 7:48 AM PST  
I mean, look at today's Top List. It's called "giallo" but most of the films are occult! Zombie films! Who makes these Top Lists anyway? Did he/she read the Italian Horror primer?
Cinenaut
post #5  on October 29, 2003 - 8:27 AM PST  
Is it just me, or does Mario Bava look like Edward Everett Horton?

I'm no expert, but perhaps giallo films are horror films in the way that slasher films are horror films?
hamano
post #6  on October 29, 2003 - 8:50 AM PST  
> On October 29, 2003 - 8:27 AM PDT Cinenaut wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> I'm no expert, but perhaps giallo films are horror films in the way that slasher films are horror films?
> ---------------------------------

Are "slasher" films (as opposed to "splatter" films) horror films, or are they thrillers?
Cinenaut
post #7  on October 29, 2003 - 9:02 AM PST  
Maybe it depends on whether the culprit is supernatural or just a crazy human? I think giallos have an element of detection going on, whereas a lot of slasher films don't. A detective (or somebody) is trying to solve the crimes in a giallo.

I don't even know if I've seen an actual giallo.
dpowers
post #8  on October 29, 2003 - 9:52 AM PST  
i was standing right next to one at the grocery store on saturday. it looked scary, but not supernatural. psycho-hitchcock.
Cinenaut
post #9  on October 29, 2003 - 9:54 AM PST  
Did he slash or splatter?
dpowers
post #10  on October 29, 2003 - 10:21 AM PST  
she slashed.
Cinenaut
post #11  on October 29, 2003 - 10:29 AM PST  
Was she buying butcher knives or anything like that?

"Giallo" translates as "yellow." What is the significance of that, I wonder?
larbeck
post #12  on October 29, 2003 - 10:47 AM PST  
> On October 29, 2003 - 10:29 AM PDT Cinenaut wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> "Giallo" translates as "yellow." What is the significance of that, I wonder?
> ---------------------------------
Cerebro-spinal fluid is yellowish, isn't it?

Brains and salsa, the Day of the Dead Tex-Mex treat!


Gradalis
post #13  on October 29, 2003 - 12:41 PM PST  
David made today's list. With the exception of The Cast of the Bloody Iris, none of these are gialli. However, the significance of a Bava documentary is quite appropriate since he was a key figure in the development of the genre.

"Giallo" translates as "yellow." What is the significance of that, I wonder?
As I remember it, this is a reference to the trashy paperbacks from which a handful of these films were based. They were published with yellow covers.

In the interest of a little plug, earlier this week we introduced a VOD version of Argento's great Deep Red Hatchet Murders, a true giallo classic. Cheap, too.

informatively,
Marlow
msilenus
post #14  on October 29, 2003 - 1:39 PM PST  
Also there is a propensity for the detectives in gialli to be total amateurs in their quest to solve a crime...alot of the time its just out of sheer dumbass luck that they dont get themselves killed by the end. Also they are emaculated in their roles....take for example how when Hemmings gets into Daria Nicolodi's car in Deep Red the seat falls down and she appears taller than him.-MS
underdog
post #15  on October 29, 2003 - 4:30 PM PST  
David so kindly just fixed this little error -- the list header has now been changed. Thanks for the tip!

We'll have another horror list tomorrow.


[cue diabolical laughter]

[cue diabolical acting]
dwhudson
post #16  on October 29, 2003 - 4:51 PM PST  
Yes, thanks, everybody. I keep little snippets of potential top lists lying around my desktop, in folders, under my bed, in the glove compartment and so on, and sometimes, the lists take off in a direction far from the one originally intended. When that happens, it's important to remember to change the title.

But then, also, there are times when I'm not savvy enough to know the title needs to be changed. Sadly, yea, tragically, this was one of those times.

I hang my head in shame. Diabolically.
hamano
post #17  on October 30, 2003 - 5:33 AM PST  
> On October 29, 2003 - 7:43 AM PDT hamano wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> I read this primer and I'm still confused.
> This list doesn't help to clear things up...
> ---------------------------------

I'm still confused....
underdog
post #18  on October 30, 2003 - 4:21 PM PST  

>
> I'm still confused....
> ---------------------------------

Just think of Giallo as a subset of Italian Horror, but more along the lines of mystery/suspense, except with a lot more blood than you'd find in most US mystery/suspense movies. I thought Cheryl Eddy's description of Giallo is about as clear as I'd seen. If it's still murky it's 'cause the Italians themselves aren't completely in agreement about it.

C
Cinenaut
post #19  on October 31, 2003 - 9:19 AM PST  
There's always room for Giallo.





Maybe I should actually watch some.
dpowers
post #20  on October 31, 2003 - 4:32 PM PST  
eh, help, giggling to death
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