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Can someone recommend the best Wire-Fu Martial Arts movies?
Topic by: sc4rf4ce
Posted: September 7, 2003 - 3:55 AM PDT
Last Reply: May 10, 2004 - 10:13 AM PDT

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author topic: Can someone recommend the best Wire-Fu Martial Arts movies?
sc4rf4ce
post #1  on September 7, 2003 - 3:55 AM PDT  
I am a big fan of Martial Arts movies..as of late i really like fantasy/wire-fu martial arts movies..such as Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon,Iron Monkey,Storm Riders and The Duel ..if someone can let me know of some more titles worth checking out i would really appreciate it.

Thanks.
dpowers
post #2  on September 7, 2003 - 2:57 PM PDT  
here's a list: quality wire fu 4 u

a lot of the great ones were directed by ching siu-tung, whose movies are usually pretty fun to watch even when they're bad.

are they the best, i think there are some i forgot but this is a good list anyway.
sc4rf4ce
post #3  on September 7, 2003 - 6:53 PM PDT  
Thanks for the list..i had added all to my queue.


> On September 7, 2003 - 2:57 PM PDT dpowers wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> here's a list: quality wire fu 4 u
>
> a lot of the great ones were directed by ching siu-tung, whose movies are usually pretty fun to watch even when they're bad.
>
> are they the best, i think there are some i forgot but this is a good list anyway.
> ---------------------------------

Cinenaut
post #4  on September 8, 2003 - 8:37 AM PDT  
Don't forget Jet Li's Hero. It's beautifully photographed in a most Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon way.
dpowers
post #5  on September 8, 2003 - 9:32 AM PDT  
i'll throw stuff suggested here into that list, i left things off that were mentioned already cuz he'd already seen them. CTHD ("crouching tiger, hyperactive disorder") goes in easy... i'm not sure about iron monkey cuz i think it's kinda drab... haven't seen the new ones yet but people keep talking up hero.

let me put it this way, are storm riders and the duel movies that people would recommend seeing before something like zu or swordsman ii...?
tboot
post #6  on September 8, 2003 - 10:09 AM PDT  
Absolutely not. IMO, SWORDSMAN II is THE movie to start with. ZU is amazing, too, but has an arcane goofiness that can seem too campy to the uninitiated. I'd also recommend FONG SAI-YUK, as well as many on your fine list. STORM RIDERS is a pale shadow of these other seminal movies.


> On September 8, 2003 - 9:32 AM PDT dpowers wrote:

> let me put it this way, are storm riders and the duel movies that people would recommend seeing before something like zu or swordsman ii...?
> ---------------------------------

dpowers
post #7  on September 8, 2003 - 11:00 AM PDT  
ZU is amazing, too, but has an arcane goofiness that can seem too campy to the uninitiated.
hey man, it was the 80s, laser beams were in.
Cinenaut
post #8  on September 8, 2003 - 11:07 AM PDT  
Laser beams, along with prehensile eyebrows.
dpowers
post #9  on September 8, 2003 - 11:47 AM PDT  
my sister had those. she was really popular.
dpowers
post #10  on September 8, 2003 - 11:16 PM PDT  
actually (and kinda funny), i didn't use greencine's primer on HK action as a start, i did it from my head then went around the web collecting a few more. but patrick macias's wire-fu picks for the primer hit the same flicks, and more. it's a very good read!
sc4rf4ce
post #11  on September 9, 2003 - 3:43 AM PDT  
I just finished watching Zu:Warriors of the Magic Mountain.. and i have to say i really enjoyed it .. keeping in mind that it was made in the early 80's the special effects as well as the wire usage must have had that "WOW" factor to it.

The Duel on the other hand was more of a comedy than anything else.. i wish it had more fight scenes in it.

Signalstation
post #12  on September 9, 2003 - 10:14 AM PDT  
> The Duel on the other hand was more of a comedy than
> anything else.. i wish it had more fight scenes in it.

Or that it explained what those attacking statues were about. Or who dug that pit. Or...

Or you can just relax and take it as it comes. It was a New Year's movie... you're just supposed to look at the pretty people, laugh at the jokes, get a little bit of action, and if you watched the original Chinese soap opera it's based on, enjoy the revisionist aspects.

I didn't see the original, so the twist ending confused the hell outta me. Had to read some background info to realize that the reason they didn't explain anything is 'cause they were condensing the original story and figured you knew how it ended anyway, since you are a member of a Hong Kong movie audience and not a foreigner scratching your head and wondering if there's a flaw in the subtitles.

So there's that.

Cinenaut
post #13  on September 11, 2003 - 10:21 AM PDT  
Wow, does anybody know anything about Legend of the Sacred Stone? It's supposed to be puppet wire-fu.

Here's the imdb.com entry: Sheng shi chuan shuo (1999)
sc4rf4ce
post #14  on September 12, 2003 - 4:04 AM PDT  
> On September 11, 2003 - 10:21 AM PDT Cinenaut wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Wow, does anybody know anything about Legend of the Sacred Stone? It's supposed to be puppet wire-fu.
>
> Here's the imdb.com entry: Sheng shi chuan shuo (1999)
> ---------------------------------

WOW..that movie sounds like a Must See! ..but according to IMDB ..it hasnt been released on VHS or DVD ..where can we get it?/?

I would love to check that out! ..lol
sc4rf4ce
post #15  on September 12, 2003 - 4:15 AM PDT  
> On September 11, 2003 - 10:21 AM PDT Cinenaut wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Wow, does anybody know anything about Legend of the Sacred Stone? It's supposed to be puppet wire-fu.
>
> Here's the imdb.com entry: Sheng shi chuan shuo (1999)
> ---------------------------------

Here is the official site for Legend of the Sacred Stone..it has Movie Trailers!

http://movie.pili.com.tw/en/index.htm
sc4rf4ce
post #16  on September 12, 2003 - 4:24 AM PDT  
Legend of the Sacred Stone selling on EBAY!


129 minutes of non-stop puppet theater action!

Legend Of The Sacred Stone DVD

Featuring English Subtitles!


NTSC format
Language: Chinese, Japanese (Selectable)
Subtitles: English, Chinese (Removable and Selectable)
Sound: Dolby Digital 5.1 Chinese , DD 5.1 Japanese
Region: 0 (All Code)
16:9 Anamorphic Widescreen picture
Scene Selection

Original Trailer (With English Subtitles!)
Making of Special (With English Subtitles!)


This DVD is playable on all DVD players worldwide including the PS2 and XBOX, and features excellent English subtitles.

GC please order some..there is a buy it now price of only $9.99!
sc4rf4ce
post #17  on September 12, 2003 - 4:28 AM PDT  
> On September 12, 2003 - 4:24 AM PDT sc4rf4ce wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Legend of the Sacred Stone selling on EBAY!
>
>
> 129 minutes of non-stop puppet theater action!
>
> Legend Of The Sacred Stone DVD
>
> Featuring English Subtitles!
>
>
> NTSC format
> Language: Chinese, Japanese (Selectable)
> Subtitles: English, Chinese (Removable and Selectable)
> Sound: Dolby Digital 5.1 Chinese , DD 5.1 Japanese
> Region: 0 (All Code)
> 16:9 Anamorphic Widescreen picture
> Scene Selection
>
> Original Trailer (With English Subtitles!)
> Making of Special (With English Subtitles!)
>
>
> This DVD is playable on all DVD players worldwide including the PS2 and XBOX, and features excellent English subtitles.
>
> GC please order some..there is a buy it now price of only $9.99!
>
> ---------------------------------


OOOOOPS! i wish the EDIT feature was here already..i take that last post back..just saw this on HKFlix.com


LEGEND OF THE SACRED STONE [UNCUT SE 2-DISC SET]

URGENT NOTE: Although this DVD does not have English subtitles, the action and puppetry is still visually stunning. The visual effects and action is why this film is so popular. This is the ultimate version of this film on DVD, and the only version that is uncut. No legitimate version of this film on DVD has English subtitles, so be careful of bootlegs. At the time of this writing, there are several English subtitled bootlegs circulating. They are pirated copies of the severely cut Japanese version of this film. The Japanese or International cut is ~100 minutes, while the Taiwanese DVD is ~120 minutes. The bootlegs that advertise a 129 minute running time is the 100-minute cut plus 29 minutes of trailers and a few extras.

dpowers
post #18  on September 13, 2003 - 10:31 PM PDT  
that looks immensely fun.
rmarkd
post #19  on November 9, 2003 - 10:55 PM PST  
Isn't this called WuXia?

In terms of the sheer beauty of the fights in Crouching Tiger, I don't think I've come across anything nearly as good. Then again, I haven't looked that hard. I tried Iron Money and found myself laughing, especially during the "stilts on fire" scene at the end (it was that movie, right?)

Anyhoo, a while back, I asked a similar question (not in Greencine) and a few folks replied with the following movies:
The Bride With White Hair (1/2)
Swordsman II
Dragon Inn
Green Snake
Zu: Warriors of the Magic Mountain
A Chinese Ghost Story
The Legend (aka Fong Sai Yuk series)
Ashes of Time

Your mileage may vary. I saw Zu and was disappointed. Fong Sai Yuk is pretty good, but the fights are a bit silly for me.

Also Check out Jet Li movies:
Fist of Legend
The Enforcer
My Father the Hero
Once Upon a Time in China

hth,
-Mark







> On September 7, 2003 - 3:55 AM PDT sc4rf4ce wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> I am a big fan of Martial Arts movies..as of late i really like fantasy/wire-fu martial arts movies..such as Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon,Iron Monkey,Storm Riders and The Duel ..if someone can let me know of some more titles worth checking out i would really appreciate it.
>
> Thanks.
> ---------------------------------

jeffsui
post #20  on December 23, 2003 - 10:06 PM PST  
> On November 9, 2003 - 10:55 PM PST rmarkd wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Isn't this called WuXia?
>
> In terms of the sheer beauty of the fights in Crouching Tiger, I don't think I've come across anything nearly as good. Then again, I haven't looked that hard. I tried Iron

Do yourself a favor and see hero. It is by far a movie you want to see BEFORE it comes to the theaters in the US this feb (i think). It looks amazing and in my opinion definitly a step above crouching tiger.

It is one of the most vibrant movie's i've ever seen. Great fighting (jet li / donnie yen scene!!).

All watch hero! (Great for women who dont like ninja movies too)
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