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Ring 0, Ring 2
Topic by: Cinenaut
Posted: October 17, 2003 - 11:21 AM PDT
Last Reply: June 22, 2004 - 9:21 AM PDT

author topic: Ring 0, Ring 2
Cinenaut
post #1  on October 17, 2003 - 11:21 AM PDT  
Okay, I've seen The Ring, Ringu and even The Ring Virus.

What about the other Japanese Ring movies, Ring 0 and Ring 2? Will they be available in the U.S.? Is it even worth worrying about it?
hamano
post #2  on October 17, 2003 - 4:43 PM PDT  
There are some good (but spoilerish) reviews at Love HK Films.

Ring 0
Ring 2

If we put in a request, I'm sure GreenCine can get them from their secret source of all-region-coded discs...
Brujaria
post #3  on October 21, 2003 - 12:56 PM PDT  
> On October 17, 2003 - 11:21 AM PDT Cinenaut wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Okay, I've seen The Ring, Ringu and even The Ring Virus.
>
> What about the other Japanese Ring movies, Ring 0 and Ring 2? Will they be available in the U.S.? Is it even worth worrying about it?
> ---------------------------------

There are actually two "part 2" sequels to the 1998 Japanese original of The Ring (bizarrely titled phonetically with a Japanese accent here in the US as Ringu).

Immediately following the success of Hideo Nakata's The Ring in Japan, Joji Iida (who went on to do Another Heaven) directed a sequel titled The Spiral based on the novel of the same title (that was the actual sequel to the novel that the first film was based on). It was released on DVD in Malaysia as Ring 2 and while it looks good, it has never been available with subtitles (as with all other Asian releases of The Ring movies except for the HK VCD of part 1).

Hideo Nakata's The Ring 2 (made in 1999) is very good, but not as creepy and atmospheric as part one. It does pick up right where the first left off and answers some of the ambiguities from the first but is not actually based on the second novel in the series The Spiral.

The Ring 0: Birthday, on the other hand, has NOTHING to do with the others. It is not based on one of novels (the third novel in the series being titled The Loop), it does not have any of the original cast or crew, it barely has any connection to The Ring mythos and is absolutely gawd freakin' awful. Err, IMHO, of course.

At the very least, I would make the effort of getting Hideo Nakata's The Ring 2. The UK Tartan DVD is pretty nice (as Tartan DVDs go) and it's widescreen with white subtitles in the lower area of the widescreen matte. Unfortunately you'll need a PAL compatible rig, or an NTSC burn off Ebay.
Cinenaut
post #4  on October 21, 2003 - 2:37 PM PDT  
Then you have this unrelated spiral movie, just to add to the spiraling confusion: Uzumaki

Thanks for the info! Looking at the review of Ring 0, it didn't seem very related.
Brujaria
post #5  on November 6, 2003 - 10:49 AM PST  
Just a quick bit of info to those interested. The Spiral has just seen the light of day in a subtitled, widescreen R2 PAL disc in the UK.
It also includes an interview with Iida in the sups. Pretty cool, I thought.
msilenus
post #6  on November 7, 2003 - 9:09 AM PST  
Uzumaki is funny in a black way with some pretty freakish scenes and the way its filmed is very dizzying. Absolutely recommend it over either of the Ring sequels.-MS
Cinenaut
post #7  on November 7, 2003 - 1:33 PM PST  
> On November 7, 2003 - 9:09 AM PDT msilenus wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Uzumaki is funny in a black way with some pretty freakish scenes and the way its filmed is very dizzying. Absolutely recommend it over either of the Ring sequels.-MS
> ---------------------------------

I have to second your recommendation for Uzumaki. I thought it was great. I'd love to see more from the same director.

markhl
post #8  on March 20, 2004 - 8:29 PM PST  
Not to revive a REALLY old and dead thread but since it already exists already, I wanted to chime in about Ring 0. I actually thought it was much better than Ring 2 which was so close in content but lacking the novelty (since we'd seen it before in the original). There are connections to the original but Ring 0 is more like a side story with more details regarding the life of Sadako. On the whole, the connections are scattered throughout the movie but not overwhelmingly so - in a good way. In the grey scale between horror and psychological thriller nowadays, Ring 0 lies closer to the latter than either Ringu or Ring 2 true.. but not as far as suggested thus far IMHO..
danleary25
post #9  on March 21, 2004 - 8:25 PM PST  
OK, to break know-it-all stigma let me admit I've only seen Ringu and the American version, and haven't seen any of the other films. But sometimes I obsess with reading about movies on the net long before I ever see them, and the Ring series is one such case.

Spoiler Warning for the Ringu and the American Ring:

Original Japnese Film Series
Ringu (1998) - This was the film that scored big at the Japanese box office and inspired the Hollywood remake. Available on Region 1 DVD.

Spiral (aka Rasen, aka The Ring 2: Rasen) (1998) - Filmed back to back with the Ringu in the same fashion as Matrix 2 & 3 and Back to the Future 2 & 3. This movie was based on the Koji Suzuki's literary sequel of the same name. The plot did not continue the story of the mother and son of the Ringu, but instead follows the body of the ex-boyfriend character as it is examied by a new character who in turn uncovers the evil videotape and unleashes it once more. Rasen did poorly in Japan as it wasn't the story people expected. eBay has many English subbed, R0 DVDs that are most likely not legit. But they are there if you want to give it a try(or if you don't care about bootlegs).

Ringu 2 (1999) - Following the fan disappointment toward Rasen, an original story was created for a sequel that once agian follows the mother and son. Region 0's available on eBay.

Ringu 0 (2000) - Original prequel that traces the origin of the video tape. Again, eBay.

Remakes and Other Series Oddities
Ringu (TV Movie) (1995) - Predating the 1998 film, this was the first attempt to make Koji Suzuki's book The Ring into a movie. I've never been able to find it for sale(legit or not). Apparently it starred a J-Pop idol and was pretty corny.

The Ring Virus (1999) - Korean production of the first book, brought about by the success of the Japanese film. Technically a remake, technically not. Legit region 0 DVDs are available through Asian film distributors.

Ring: The Final Chapter (TV series) (1999) - A Japanese televison series, once more rehashing the story of Suzuki's first novel. There were 13, one hour episodes.

Rasen (TV series) (1999) - Following in-line with the Ring TV series 13, one hour episodes

The Ring (2002) - The Hollywood remake we're all familiar with. Based on both the 1999 Ringu movie and the novel.

The Ring 2 (2004) - The sequel to the Hollywood remake, set to start filming soon. This will reportedly be an entirely original story, not a remake of the Ring 2 or The Spiral/Rasen.

The best place for this stuff is a website called Ring World . I actually just found it two minutes ago when looking to verify my info. Wish I'd know about it before I compiled this post, I would have just said "Go to this site". But I'm wasting my work now.
Cinenaut
post #10  on June 22, 2004 - 9:21 AM PDT  
GreenCime Daily today points to a review of Ring, the book that started it all.

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