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Topic by: rmarkd
Posted: November 23, 2003 - 10:40 PM PST
Last Reply: November 26, 2003 - 10:46 AM PST
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rmarkd
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post #1
on November 23, 2003 - 10:40 PM PST
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Anyone have a list? I'm comparing foreign and domestic scifi movie ratings (as in 1 to 10, not G/PG/R/) and am looking for some foreign sci-fi flicks. Rather than go through the ones I have now, let's just assume I have none and want some suggestions.
So, let's hear it from yall!
And thanks!
-Mark
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rmarkd
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post #2
on November 23, 2003 - 10:51 PM PST
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Forgot to add...
Super duper bonus points for movies that have a foreign and domestic version"
Spoorloos vs. The Vanishing
Solyaris vs. Solaris
Abre Los Ojos vs. Vanilla Sky
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> On November 23, 2003 - 10:40 PM PST rmarkd wrote:
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> Anyone have a list? I'm comparing foreign and domestic scifi movie ratings (as in 1 to 10, not G/PG/R/) and am looking for some foreign sci-fi flicks. Rather than go through the ones I have now, let's just assume I have none and want some suggestions.
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> So, let's hear it from yall!
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> And thanks!
> -Mark
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hamano
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hamano
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dpowers
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post #5
on November 24, 2003 - 1:43 AM PST
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so - you're looking for just those SF movies that were made there/here and then remade here/there? or looking for lots of good foreign SF films?
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Cinenaut
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rmarkd
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post #7
on November 24, 2003 - 10:51 AM PST
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D'Oh! You're right! Thanks for the catch.
I'm compiling a list of about 200 scifi movies and put that on there. Must have had a brain fart; it didn't even cross my mind that Spoorloos isn't sci-fi at all.
-Mark
> On November 24, 2003 - 12:55 AM PST hamano wrote:
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> Hey, The Vanishing isn't really Sci Fi! Can I say, obviously, Ringu VS. The Ring?
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> You can take a look at Not all remakes are bad, a list by ColonelKong, or Originals Recently Remade by Hollywood by ladawna. ladawna mentions Insomnia...
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> Three men and a baby!
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> The Hidden Fortress VS. Star Wars
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> I think a number of Kurosawa films were made into cheapie Sci Fi films...
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rmarkd
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post #8
on November 24, 2003 - 10:58 AM PST
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Yes.. :-)
My project is to get a list of about 200 science fiction movies. I wanted a list of domestic and foreign movies, but only have maybe a dozen foreign movies. I thought I'd go here to get more suggestions.
While I was compiling that list and looking at the ratings, I noticed not only a difference between foreign movie ratings vs. American movie ratings, but also the difference between men and women. There's a larger rating discrepancy between men and women with foreign movies than with domestic movies. I thought that would be an interesting aside for my project to discuss that, but having only two movies (Solaris, Vanilla sky) isn't enough of a sample size.
So, bottom line, I'm looking for foreign sci-fi selections, but if you know of a few foreign flicks remade in america (or vice versa) there's some extra virtual brownie points in it for ya.
-Mark
> On November 24, 2003 - 1:43 AM PST dpowers wrote:
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> so - you're looking for just those SF movies that were made there/here and then remade here/there? or looking for lots of good foreign SF films?
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dpowers
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post #9
on November 24, 2003 - 11:37 AM PST
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hmm, there's tons of it from japan. godzilla of course.
alphaville from france.
what about english-language but foreign stuff like the mad max series or brazil or existenz (which i thought was american; it's canada/UK/france; i pulled it up with an imdb "power search" for "country of origin: canada" + "genre: sci-fi").
i'm sure i can come up with a few more before thanksgiving. |
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rmarkd
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post #10
on November 24, 2003 - 11:53 AM PST
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Hey,
I already have those movies on my list. As for Gogzilla, I have that on my list, but not the myraid variants (ie. Godzilla vs. .... mothra, Barugon, Biollante, Bambi...)
English language foreign is fine. I was under the impression that there'd be a ton of non-American sci-fi, but I guess non-anime sci-fi isn't big outside of America. Is that true, or am I just missing a big batch-o-movies?
Thanks!
-Mark
> On November 24, 2003 - 11:37 AM PST dpowers wrote:
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> hmm, there's tons of it from japan. godzilla of course.
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> alphaville from france.
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> what about english-language but foreign stuff like the mad max series or brazil or existenz (which i thought was american; it's canada/UK/france; i pulled it up with an imdb "power search" for "country of origin: canada" + "genre: sci-fi").
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> i'm sure i can come up with a few more before thanksgiving.
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dpowers
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post #11
on November 24, 2003 - 12:55 PM PST
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i think it's true. in reality we spend a lot of money building big useless machines, it's a national hobby. we like the future better than the past, too, which seems rare for a such a large group of people - and we're a little weird in preferring our id to attack us from outer space, sensible people clearly prefer the living dead.
maybe you should put your list somewhere public for a little bit it'll shake out some memories. |
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dpowers
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post #12
on November 24, 2003 - 1:20 PM PST
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another thing that comes to mind is that a tech-oriented vision of the future might be a luxury of people who are richer and stronger than average. many foreign SF films (including brazil) treat the future as a time like the present, with greater restrictions, not an adventure or a reenactment of a past revolutionary success. during the period when "we" were dreaming of personal air cars or atomic bombs killing us at a picnic, other people were trying to get out from under the many boots on their necks (some of which were our boots). man facing southeast is a good example of this.
another question might be, what are the great african american science fiction films. why haven't black auteurs here done SF. that feeling that progress is denied you makes a big difference in when your story is set. |
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larbeck
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post #13
on November 24, 2003 - 2:50 PM PST
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| How about Fantastic Planet? Does foriegn animated (not anime) films count? Including Anime would just be too easy! |
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larbeck
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post #14
on November 24, 2003 - 2:57 PM PST
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| Oh! And "The Quiet Earth" - a great Australian film. And it just seems that with all of the output from Bollywood, they must have done some sci-fi (probably with singing and dancing), but I am not up on such things - does anyone know? |
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JHeneghan
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post #15
on November 24, 2003 - 3:16 PM PST
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For Foreign SF movies how far back do you want to go?
There are the Quatermass movies from Britain and
"The Day of the Triffids "
"Village of the Damned " (also remade by John Carpenter)
some Dr Who
"Metropolis"
"Akira"
"Ghost in the Shell"
"Armitage"
And all those cheesy Italian jobs including
"Barbarella"
And I'm sure there are a number of foreign versions of various Verne, Wells, Huxley, and Orwell stories.
Separating the Fantasy from the SF is always a tricky proposition. Good Luck with it.
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Cinenaut
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Cinenaut
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post #17
on November 24, 2003 - 3:32 PM PST
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> On November 24, 2003 - 3:25 PM PST Cinenaut wrote:
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> Le Denier Combat
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That should be Dernier, not Denier. |
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rmarkd
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post #18
on November 24, 2003 - 4:52 PM PST
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Hey all,
Thanks for the suggestions, keep 'em coming!
As to the question JHeneghan asked, there's no limit to how far back. Right now, I think my earliest is A Trip to the Moon (1914) and earliest foreign is Metropolis (1927).
Thanks again everyone,
-Mark
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Eoliano
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Cinenaut
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