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Point Pleasant & NUMB3RS
Topic by: hamano
Posted: January 28, 2005 - 8:15 AM PST
Last Reply: February 17, 2005 - 5:38 PM PST

author topic: Point Pleasant & NUMB3RS
hamano
post #1  on January 28, 2005 - 8:15 AM PST  
Anyone watching these shows? Looks like Point Pleasant might be another one of these teen sci-fi/fantasy/supernatural soaps, but I'm hoping I'm in for a "Pleasant" surprise. The lead actress appeared in a bikini in the first episode! (or was it the second episode?)

Despite having the directing/producing Scott Brothers (Ridley and Tony) as producers, NUMB3RS ep. 1 was kinda ho-hum. I was surprised that the sexy grad student was supposed to be from India... she's got that Shakira Caine international look that could be almost anything. They had to establish her ethnicity with a bit of dialogue that didn't have much other significance. The Indian computer whiz in John Doe was much more interesting... As a pilot episode this doesn't bode well for the series. The villain was really BORING, the FBI guys were more boring than the cops on other shows like the X-Files, CSI or even the diagnostic investigative team on HOUSE MD. The victims were really non-persons.... I didn't feel a whit of sympathy for a single one, which is just average or below average for a good crime show.

If mathematicians are hoping this show would do for their profession what Giles in Buffy the Vampire Slayer did for librarians, I think they're going to be sorely disappointed.
Cinenaut
post #2  on January 28, 2005 - 10:55 AM PST  
Point Pleasant: zzzzzzZZZzzz.
Numb3rs: Okay CSI spawn.
Yowanda
post #3  on January 28, 2005 - 11:03 AM PST  
Usually, my husband and I don't watch much network TV, but we both thought the commercials for Point Pleasant looked interesting. I told him it probably wasn't worth it - either it would be something we didn't like, or it would be good and immediately cancelled. Well, I was right. It was the type of show we can't stand. We only made it through half an hour, then we turned it off to play video games instead. I said it was a cross between The OC and the X-Files. Later we saw a Fox commercial that proclaimed it is a cross between The OC and The Omen. I was close.
Cinenaut
post #4  on January 28, 2005 - 11:32 AM PST  
Ha! After I saw part of the first episode, I dubbed it "The OC-orcist," and then cracked up when they had the OC & Omen commercial.
kohnfused1
post #5  on January 28, 2005 - 11:51 AM PST  
I thought "Numbers" big mistake was not establishing it's core characters. It went straight for the action and somehow dabbled a little backstory here and there. It is another CSI rip off no doubt, but it has potential, given the writing improves.
hamano
post #6  on January 29, 2005 - 9:15 AM PST  
UPDATE:

NUMB3RS - 2nd episode was more fun... but even more farfetched that the local FBI office is now completely reliant on this math whiz to help them solve cases! Do they pay him? Don't they have access to any other experts? Were they totally incapable of fighting crime before little bro came aboard? When the agents recovered a skin mask that one of the bank robbers had been wearing, my wife yelled, "Epithelials!" But no DNA tests to ID the guy. Hey, this show is about the math whiz, not the lab guys! It's already turned into a version of that cancelled show John Doe, minus the sci-fi/conspiracy back story. The production team should fire some of the math consultants and hire better writers.

Point Pleasant - I'm still waiting to be "Pleasant"ly surprised... The lead actress is a beauty, but my son's finger puppets are better actors! The only reason I'm still watching is because the actress who plays Julie, who has the improbable name of Aubrey Dollar, is so darn wide-eyed and cute. OK, maybe now the show is hanging just at the point where its sheer badness makes it fun to watch, a la MST3K.

The big compelling question of the season... Are all Hollywood real estate agents bimbos? First there was Carolyn Burnham (Annette Bening) in American Beauty. Then Edie Britt (Nicollette Sheridan) on Desperate Housewives. Now Amber (Dina Meyer) in Point Pleasant. They are all sexually predatory scheming ambitious not-so-young-anymore bimbos! Why? Are they modeled after real real estate agents in Tinseltown?

Hmm... it seems only yesterday that Dina Meyer was seen nekkid in Starship Troopers, playing a fresh young recruit. Now she's a desperate housewife with a hot teenage daughter of her own, flirting with a neighbor's desperate husband. Has she done anything in between?
hamano
post #7  on January 29, 2005 - 9:20 AM PST  
> On January 28, 2005 - 11:32 AM PST Cinenaut wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Ha! After I saw part of the first episode, I dubbed it "The OC-orcist," and then cracked up when they had the OC & Omen commercial.

Hmm... actually it's not even as good as The OC. More like "Dawson's Creep" or something. Say the third or fourth season of Dawson's Creek crossed with Damien Returns Again or something.
Cosplayer
post #8  on January 29, 2005 - 9:52 AM PST  
I've been trying to get into Point Pleasent, but there's too many characters, and subplots, and middle-aged people.

It's by the person who did Buffy, if anyine cares.
hamano
post #9  on January 29, 2005 - 10:04 AM PST  
> On January 29, 2005 - 9:52 AM PST Cosplayer wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> It's by the person who did Buffy, if anyine cares.
> ---------------------------------

Well, I don't know if you can call Marti Noxon "the person who did Buffy"... maybe a "Buffy vet" or "Buffy writer and producer". "Person who did Buffy" should probably be reserved for Joss Whedon, Sarah Michelle Gellar, and of course, Angel (hee hee, also Riley and Spike, I guess).
kohnfused1
post #10  on January 31, 2005 - 9:00 AM PST  
> On January 29, 2005 - 9:15 AM PST hamano wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> UPDATE:
>
> NUMB3RS - 2nd episode was more fun... but even more farfetched that the local FBI office is now completely reliant on this math whiz to help them solve cases! Do they pay him? Don't they have access to any other experts? Were they totally incapable of fighting crime before little bro came aboard? When the agents recovered a skin mask that one of the bank robbers had been wearing, my wife yelled, "Epithelials!" But no DNA tests to ID the guy. Hey, this show is about the math whiz, not the lab guys! It's already turned into a version of that cancelled show John Doe, minus the sci-fi/conspiracy back story. The production team should fire some of the math consultants and hire better writers.
>
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I agree H, the second episode was much better, but it did get more absurd. And yes, I was wondering the same things about his bro's employment. I thought he was a full-time professor, where does he find time to do this extra work for his big bro? I think the show would vastly improve if they (writers) just backed off of the brothers relationship. They should use lil' bro sparingly, like as an advisor type thing, 10 - 12 minutes max screen time. I believe this is what the other professor's job is. You know, the guy who plays "Phish" on "Alley McBeal".
artifex
post #11  on February 16, 2005 - 4:52 PM PST  
I haven't seen Point Pleasant, and now it's been cancelled...
hamano
post #12  on February 16, 2005 - 7:00 PM PST  
Atchonburike!... And here I thought it was just starting to get better... I wonder if they'll cancel NUMB3RS as well.... that show's been getting worse again.... I mean, can a mathematician really hook up a pendulum for less than a minute before a guard shows up, and from that slim amount of data construct a computer model of how a skyscraper responds to wind from different directions? Gimme a break!
kohnfused1
post #13  on February 17, 2005 - 10:03 AM PST  
> On February 16, 2005 - 7:00 PM PST hamano wrote:
Gimme a break!
> ---------------------------------

That's what we need, more Nell Carter sitcoms. Can someone contact NBC to let them know?
artifex
post #14  on February 17, 2005 - 5:38 PM PST  
> On February 17, 2005 - 10:03 AM PST kohnfused1 wrote:
> That's what we need, more Nell Carter sitcoms. Can someone contact NBC to let them know?

Yah, well, they'd just put her in episodes of Medium, I'm sure. I've heard of phoning in a performance, before, but this would be the first ouijaing-in. :)

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