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The Fall Line-Up
Topic by: Battie
Posted: September 18, 2005 - 5:21 AM PDT
Last Reply: October 14, 2005 - 4:43 PM PDT

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author topic: The Fall Line-Up
Battie
post #1  on September 18, 2005 - 5:21 AM PDT  
Hmm...has Lost gone to everyone's heads? Maybe Medium helped, too. Not sure.

Now, while I have taken a glance at the entire fall line up for the major channels, I'm not listing them all. Just a few.

We've already discussed E-Ring and Commander in Chief. Bones, too, got a mention at some point. So...what about Twins (The WB). Personally, I watched the premiere because it had a certain actress. Y'all remember the dark-haired daughter on Roseanne? I always, ALWAYS liked her. ^_^

Now, I'm not sure if Close to Home (CBS) deserves a mention or not, since it seems to be created from the same minds of CSI, Cold Case, etc. Humph. I finally saw the CSI Finale (I had to download it--would you BELIEVE the luck in me missing both showings thanks to a power outtage...both times?), and QT's stamp was ALL OVER a scene towards the end, which was plain disgusting. How the hell does that man get work?? Yuck.

Now...my original comment about Lost and Medium pertain the to following:

Threshold (CBS), which has already had it's 2-hour premiere. I didn't watch thanks to a book I had to edit...so I um..got it somewhere else. *whistles* But, anyway, despite not watching it yet, Threshold is about aliens. Uh huh, aliens. And some weird, creepy patterns.

Invasion (ABC)..can't remember when it is going to premiere, but this, too, is also about aliens. Only, I guess it's the walking, living-among-us kind instead of the it-appeared-from-space-and-now-everything-is-weird kind. Whatever. Why are there two alien shows? No freakin' clue!

Surface (NBC)...well, they get credit for at least making the lifeform from Earth. Or, that's the impression I got from the synopsis. Basically, chick goes into the ocean by sub, uncovers some weird creature, the gov. tries to cover it up, and some kid finds an egg. Along those lines...expect something in the water (and I don't mean pee).

Supernatural (The WB). Yup, the title says it all. I saw the premiere, and it wasn't bad. A bit of snappy dialogue--shocking, considering the sourse. Not bad special effects, either. I've seen far, FAR worse on films released into theaters (but I don't expect the quality to hold for more than two or three episodes). So far, it seems to be primarily ghosts, but hey, they might throw in some werewolves and vampires. I can only hope since...

Ghost Whisperer (CBS). Jennifer Love Hewitt. Christ. I may watch out of curiosity...but damn. If it weren't for Geena Davis, I'd suspect the TV industry has a bias against older women and women that have more beauty to them than today's models (YES! I'd still take Piper from Charmed over some of these model, actress-wannabes). But, anyway, the show...is about a chick who can talk to ghosts (derrr) so she can help them solve their problems. Sounds like a cross between Medium, Tru Calling, and a little more ghostly stuff thrown in. Not very original, IMO. Or maybe I'm just thinking that because of the star...Next up..

The Night Stalker (ABC), a remake of the 70s original with Stuart Townsend. Okay, this one actually looks really good. (Okay, okay. I confess. Stuart Townsend is one of the few white boys I think is *totally* hot.) But...that still doesn't dismiss the ghost/paranormal thing. I've no clue what it's really about...ABC was very vague on it, and I'd not have known of it without a website mentioning it as a Fall Premiere. Strange...Anyway, it seemed like it was a ghost thing (the "trailer" on ABC's website reminded me of White Noise). I've also heard it's already been seen on TV several weeks ago, but I have no freakin' clue how THAT happened, since the premiere is set for the 29th.

That about wraps up my comments. Since I love science-fiction, horror, and the general paranormal movies...you can imagine my overall glee (with the exception of Ghost Whisperer, which I look upon with deep suspicion). However, I'm also well aware that it's completely WEIRD to see that many paranormal-themed shows in one season. And I'm also realistic to realize that most, if not all, will be dropped, if only for the expensive production costs. *pout*

The one last thing I have to say is...what is up with these movie stars BECOMING tv stars? Geena Davis, PLUS Denise Richards (and on UPN of all things). Eh, I hate Denise Richards anyway...she gives me the creeps the same way Nicole Kidman does.
Battie
post #2  on September 18, 2005 - 11:25 PM PDT  
Well, I'm watching Threshold, and during the first fifteen minutes, the US government says, "North Korea has spotted the object..." You get it, yeah?

So, I've watchs lots and lots of movies over the years. Before I had the pleasure of renting from Blockbuster and Netflix, cable was my only source, so, needless to say, I also saw a lot of really old movies. Some 70s, and lots of 80s and 90s...Many were actions flicks. Okay, back in the day, it used to be the Soviet Union (this, naturally, ignores some wars that fostered suspicion of Germany and Vietnam) who were the ones the US government faced off with. Then it became various Asian countries, especially the Chinese, and even more South American countries (thank you, drug wars!). Now it's North Korea. I wonder...if someone looks back on all our movies, say a century into the future (given humanity still exists and has technology), what will they think? Cuz, man, do we make enemies!

At least Canada has always been fairly well-behaved. The country is like the US's annoying little brother, who, despite being relatively well-behaved, still gets looked at with some of the same suspicion as its sibling. Then there's all the sibling fighting going on...*snicker*

Besides Canada, what other countries have we not occupied/destroyed at some point in the past? I guess China sort of counts--we've only really, really pissed each other off. Right?
Cinenaut
post #3  on September 19, 2005 - 8:57 AM PDT  
> On September 18, 2005 - 11:25 PM PDT Battie wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Well, I'm watching Threshold, and during the first fifteen minutes, the US government says, "North Korea has spotted the object..." You get it, yeah?
> ---------------------------------

So, how was Threshold? I was thinking it was the one out of the three (the other two being Surface and Invasion) that might actually be good.

Battie
post #4  on September 19, 2005 - 5:31 PM PDT  
> On September 19, 2005 - 8:57 AM PDT Cinenaut wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> So, how was Threshold? I was thinking it was the one out of the three (the other two being Surface and Invasion) that might actually be good.
> ---------------------------------

Very good, actually. It managed creepy better than most horror movies! I'm pretty much hooked. >:P But the premise it is built on seems like a bunch of hookey...believable hookey and very well-thought out, but hookey all the same. Yet it has good actors (even the midget is good!) and high production value. And...again, REALLY creepy! Kind of throws in different horror/sci-fi scares. Zombies (in a way...), mutation, aliens, and Body Snatchers. ;) It looks like it may be the best series of the season (and I'm hooked on Rome!). But this is also from the company that did Lost, so I'm betting they know what a good series can do for ratings...(I wonder, was it HBO's series like Carnivale that helped this new trend in TV, or was it only a matter of time before they stopped producing stuff that cost almost nothing to create and generally had the same appeal as cartoons--something to watch, but not something to become addicted to.)

I'm watching Surface now. I suspect it's going to be set on even more hookey.


Thought for the day: Zest soap bubbles hurt.
Cinenaut
post #5  on September 20, 2005 - 10:08 AM PDT  
I wonder if they'll be repeating the first episode of Threshold? I was on the road and missed it. I haven't seen any of the new shows yet, although I guess this is the big week.

I want to check out the comedies Everybody Hates Chris and My Name is Jason Lee.



Survivor: Guatemala got off to a pukey, leg-crampy start.
pooja
post #6  on September 20, 2005 - 1:48 PM PDT  
> On September 20, 2005 - 10:08 AM PDT Cinenaut wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> I want to check out the comedies Everybody Hates Chris and My Name is Jason Lee.

You mean EARL right? Fresh Air on NPR had glowing reviews of exactly those two shows today... I don't know if I'll watch them though. Jason Lee looked pretty scuzzy.

So did you catch Bones or Surface? That guy in Surface, Rade Serbedzija, has been the go-to guy for evil vaguely East European guys since the late '90s, I think. Sorry to Angel fans, but Bones I thought was a big waste of time... it was so much a clone of Crossing Jordan (which itself is showing so much signs of age) that you wonder what the producers were thinking. The "forensic investigator goes in with guns drawn, ahead of the actual police" genre really needs to be given a rest... Because one cutie flashed her lacey pink teddy, and the title character walked around in her apartment wearing a really tight and "uplifting" tanktop, male viewers might be tricked into sticking with this show for a few weeks. Whatcha think, guys?
Cinenaut
post #7  on September 20, 2005 - 2:07 PM PDT  
I think: "too many good shows on Tuesday night! Spread 'em out, you silly networks!"

Yes, I knew it was Earl. I was just making a Jason Lee publicity joke.
underdog
post #8  on September 20, 2005 - 5:06 PM PDT  
I'm looking forward to MY NAME IS EARL (and I'm so excited about now having TiVo that I'm gonna record it, too!) Great review in the SF Chronicle today.

Did anyone catch KITCHEN CONFIDENTIAL and/or HOW I MET YOUR MOTHER? Both were of interest to me mainly because each one had an alumni of FREAKS AND GEEKS in them (the young 'un who starred in F&G, John Frances Daley, is now on Kitchen and making me feel really old; the latter has Jason Segal who was Nick Andopolous on F&G). I TiVo'd and watched "MOTHER" and thought it was okay. I think I'm down on sitcoms as a form these days unless they're really different (and preferably without a live studio audience or laugh track - thus maybe the Jason Lee show will be better in my book). And this one was sweet and fairly funny, just not different or special enough for me to tune in each week.

Except my TiVo thing will probably think I love it and start recording it each week. I better give it a thumb's down. That machine's been recording random sports shows, because I taped one football game, and then some lame sitcoms...

C
Battie
post #9  on September 20, 2005 - 9:27 PM PDT  
> On September 20, 2005 - 10:08 AM PDT Cinenaut wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> I wonder if they'll be repeating the first episode of Threshold? I was on the road and missed it. I haven't seen any of the new shows yet, although I guess this is the big week.
>
> I want to check out the comedies Everybody Hates Chris and My Name is Jason Lee.
>
>
>
> Survivor: Guatemala got off to a pukey, leg-crampy start.
> ---------------------------------

Man, you missed something awesome. I uh..downloaded it. >_> I was working when it came on, so....For once, I turned off the TV and actually WORKED. It was a verra good premiere.

Nah, I don't wanna watch My Name is Earl. I'm actually somewhat offended, but in a distant way. I blame Jeff Foxworthy and all his buddies. >_< I had an Australian call Texas a hillbilly state! Sheesh. (Okay, seriously, I am vaguely annoyed by the stereotype, but only in the sense that some people actually think everyone in the South is actually like that.) My REAL reason for not watching it: Hokey. Pure hokey. :P I tend to go for the dry wit of House over...Well. ;)

Reality TV is the devil!

Actually, I was watching the end of a Nip/Tuck episode tonight (I watched the premeire a long time ago, but that was it). I have realized over the last week that TV has gone completely insane. *nod* Gore on CSI, sex on Nip/Tuck, and some serious scares on Threshold and Supernatural. (Threshold more than Supernatural.) Furthermore, TV is producing more and more "quality" shows (compared to what they used to be). However, their mini-series and TV movies still largely suck. :P

Back to Nip/Tuck...when did I miss tv becoming a medium for borderline erotica?
Battie
post #10  on September 20, 2005 - 9:51 PM PDT  
> On September 20, 2005 - 1:48 PM PDT pooja wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> So did you catch Bones or Surface? That guy in Surface, Rade Serbedzija, has been the go-to guy for evil vaguely East European guys since the late '90s, I think. Sorry to Angel fans, but Bones I thought was a big waste of time... it was so much a clone of Crossing Jordan (which itself is showing so much signs of age) that you wonder what the producers were thinking. The "forensic investigator goes in with guns drawn, ahead of the actual police" genre really needs to be given a rest... Because one cutie flashed her lacey pink teddy, and the title character walked around in her apartment wearing a really tight and "uplifting" tanktop, male viewers might be tricked into sticking with this show for a few weeks. Whatcha think, guys?
> ---------------------------------

I've caught both (I have no life, lmao). Surface...neither amazing, nor boring. More like...something in my preferred genre I can watch without puking. ;) Actually, I am curious what the little one looks like (sometimes, I think this is the biggest draw for horror movies today). But I like the fact that the main actress looks like she's in her late 20s or early 30s. I'm so sick of Plastic Perfect. :( (Even Battlestar Galactica has a largely "pretty" cast.) Surface's premise, whatever it may be (I'm not sure if they're going for a new species suddenly emerging from hibernation, a new species heading towards new water thanks to humanity's actions screwing up their new habitat, a new species mutated from an old one, or a new species created by some mad scientist), will probably be completely unbelievable. ^_^ At least they threw in a "a tooth like this has never been found in any fossil records." *snort*

Bones...I'm inclined to agree (I'm not an Angel fan, and CSI has long-since worn thin). I actually LIKE forensic anthropology (not the tv-kind, the actual scientific kind--rather blows my mind what they can discover from bones alone, but it also ties into my love of sociology), but Bones is more like "bleh." Maybe, just maybe, if it actually concentrated on the forensic anthropology part (rather than, we discover the body's identity, then help Mr. Big Bad FBI Agent solve the crime), I might like it more.

Tonight's episode sucked though. I can't believe they actually did a freakin' terrorism episode (and...frankly, the idea that Ms. Thang could discover the identity through little bone details faster than a man with the victim's dental records is completely idiotic--Did ANYONE buy that?). God, what AM I thinking? It's Fox. Duurrrrr!

Maybe this is why we're seeing all these sci-fi/horror/etc shows this season...They know these criminal shows are getting old (though, there are still some new ones: Criminal Minds, Killer Instinct...).

I want to see someone spend a lot of money on a period piece series. Maybe one set in 1800s England. Or even better, Australia! >:P (Never gonna happen.)

It's funny, but I notice my taste changes a lot. My reading, for example..(if ya don't know already, I read a lot of romance, erotic romance, and some erotica). Well, a few years ago a genre started gaining a heavy following. Christine Feehan and Sherrilyn Kenyon being the main reasons. So vampire books started popping up...then werewolf books...then other kinds. The subgenre is just gaining momentum right now. However, the eBook market (much more fluid) had already been there, done that. So, needless to say, I've had my fill. I won't touch a vampire anything UNLESS I know the author is good (at which point, it just becomes a choice author, and not a choice subgenre). Other popular subgenres are starting to get dumped in with the Fanged Ones. *snicker* Same thing with TV...I used to watch CSI, Law & Order, and sometimes Discovery when it had FBI Files and whatnot. Now...Pffff! I'll watch when there's nothing else on. I'm sitting here wishing, heavily, for more tv and books that concentrate on other time periods without romanticizing it (or, AT LEAST, other cultures besides North American and European). The moment something gets popular, media companies pounce on it and just overdo it. :(
underdog
post #11  on September 21, 2005 - 12:29 PM PDT  
What about the new show with THE OFFICE'S Ricky Gervais, premiering on HBO on Sunday - EXTRAS?

Sounds quite funny actually, with an amusing cameo from Kate Winslet, and Ben Stiller, among others (from what I saw on the trailer...) I'm only annoyed at it because it shares some plot elements with a short story I wrote that I'm trying to get published, about a guy who is an extra, and now people will say "Oh, it's just like that show." I was first! Sigh.

But Gervais is hysterical. He's also written an upcoming episode of The Simpsons (and guest stars in it).


Meanwhile, HOW I MET YOUR MOTHER was actually kinda funny, with a bit of a surprise ending in the pilot. I still don't think I'll be hooked, but could see enjoying another episode.

Will anyone watch the new sitcom about Chris Rock's childhood?


Another question: Should I write a script for the Sci-Fi Channel? Is it just me or does it seem like a 10 year old could write most of their made for SciFi movies...? My g/f and I always joke about the movies they show on that channel - "Was that Python vs. Boa, or Python II, or Boa II?" "No, that was Alligator II vs. Python..." "Wasn't that Crocodile vs. Snake?" I like the one that had a killer snake on the loose in... Antarctica.



pooja
post #12  on September 21, 2005 - 2:48 PM PDT  
> On September 21, 2005 - 12:29 PM PDT underdog wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> I'm only annoyed at it because it shares some plot elements with a short story I wrote that I'm trying to get published, about a guy who is an extra, and now people will say "Oh, it's just like that show." I was first! Sigh.
>
> Should I write a script for the Sci-Fi Channel? Is it just me or does it seem like a 10 year old could write most of their made for SciFi movies...?

New, on the SCIFI Channel!

Extra Space (Pilot)

Kregg, a young miner in the asteroid belt, is fed up with breaking rocks for a living. He catches the next shuttle to the movie capital of the Solar System, New Bollywood (formerly Mars Colony) to pursue his boyhood dream of becoming a star. There he moves into a colonial-era geodesic dome in Buckytown with 5 other offbeat characters from across the Nine Planets, all working menial jobs while auditioning for roles in various films.

Kregg gets a job tending bar at the Starbucks Casino Resort and Cafe to make ends meet. One night, he meets a mysteriously alluring Venusian named Pujha who tells him she runs a very successful agency for extras. But after signing the dotted line, Kregg discovers that some of her "extra"ordinary jobs go way beyond acting...
lizzoqops
post #13  on September 21, 2005 - 3:26 PM PDT  
> On September 21, 2005 - 2:48 PM PDT pooja wrote:
> ---------------------------------

>
> New, on the SCIFI Channel!
>
> Extra Space (Pilot)
>
> Kregg, a young miner in the asteroid belt, is fed up with breaking rocks for a living. He catches the next shuttle to the movie capital of the Solar System, New Bollywood (formerly Mars Colony) to pursue his boyhood dream of becoming a star. There he moves into a colonial-era geodesic dome in Buckytown with 5 other offbeat characters from across the Nine Planets, all working menial jobs while auditioning for roles in various films.
>
> Kregg gets a job tending bar at the Starbucks Casino Resort and Cafe to make ends meet. One night, he meets a mysteriously alluring Venusian named Pujha who tells him she runs a very successful agency for extras. But after signing the dotted line, Kregg discovers that some of her "extra"ordinary jobs go way beyond acting...
> ---------------------------------

This is way too good for the SciFi Channel, they'll never buy it.

underdog
post #14  on September 21, 2005 - 3:42 PM PDT  
> On September 21, 2005 - 3:26 PM PDT lizzoqops wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> > On September 21, 2005 - 2:48 PM PDT pooja wrote:
> > ---------------------------------
>
> >
> > New, on the SCIFI Channel!
> >
> > Extra Space (Pilot)
> >
> > ---------------------------------
>
> This is way too good for the SciFi Channel, they'll never buy it.
>
>
> ---------------------------------

Yeah, exactly. Way too creative. For one thing, I think they make it a requirement that all their films be incredibly derivative. I like the main character's name, though, I think I'll keep that.

How about Extra Space vs. Python?

Cinenaut
post #15  on September 21, 2005 - 4:22 PM PDT  
Hey, someone's got to make B-movies, don't they?
pooja
post #16  on September 21, 2005 - 5:11 PM PDT  
New, on the SCIFI Channel!

Cinenaut VS. Python (Pilot)

An alien gives an ordinary suburban couch potato superpowers and the face of Bob Denver, a dead TV star. Dubbed with the superhero name Cinenaut, our protagonist is sent into cyberspace to recruit a ragtag band of film geeks to fight the forces of the evil B-Pics Python Gang, and their sexy but deadly leader Queen B.
Battie
post #17  on September 21, 2005 - 5:24 PM PDT  
Invasion comes on tonight...who's gunna watch?

I saw a second episode of Supernatural. I was right, it's ghosts and other mythological creatures. Not bad, but not amazing either.

E-Ring, with that lovely Benjamin Bratt, is gunna premiere too. ^_^
Chamelion
post #18  on September 21, 2005 - 6:21 PM PDT  
> On September 21, 2005 - 5:24 PM PDT Battie wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Invasion comes on tonight...who's gunna watch?
>
> I saw a second episode of Supernatural. I was right, it's ghosts and other mythological creatures. Not bad, but not amazing either.
>
> E-Ring, with that lovely Benjamin Bratt, is gunna premiere too. ^_^
> ---------------------------------

Im watching and taping LOST right now.. LOVE that show.. the first three minutes were genuine, creamy WTF all the way... Invasion will be taped while I go to work.

I saw surface, it was all over the place, but may be fun.

How I met your mother, it's taped, yut have to watch it

Bones, you may not like Angel, but David's fun to watch.. and Bones got off to a slow start.. but EP 2 was fun and very well done.

Thursday is Night Stalker, my father loved the original, so I will definetly check this out.

Ghost Whisperer I'll check out once.. see how it goes.

The two hour premier of Threshold was interesting, but I keep seeing Data, not brent spiner.. .dang it. :)

And then there's Teen Titans on the 24th :P heheheh, this new season is going to be full of things.

C
Battie
post #19  on September 21, 2005 - 9:03 PM PDT  
> On September 21, 2005 - 6:21 PM PDT Chamelion wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Im watching and taping LOST right now.. LOVE that show.. the first three minutes were genuine, creamy WTF all the way... Invasion will be taped while I go to work.
>
> I saw surface, it was all over the place, but may be fun.
>
> How I met your mother, it's taped, yut have to watch it
>
> Bones, you may not like Angel, but David's fun to watch.. and Bones got off to a slow start.. but EP 2 was fun and very well done.
>
> Thursday is Night Stalker, my father loved the original, so I will definetly check this out.
>
> Ghost Whisperer I'll check out once.. see how it goes.
>
> The two hour premier of Threshold was interesting, but I keep seeing Data, not brent spiner.. .dang it. :)
>
> And then there's Teen Titans on the 24th :P heheheh, this new season is going to be full of things.
>
> C
> ---------------------------------

I ended up watching the Lost 2nd season premiere instead of E-Ring, lmao. I didn't even watch the first season of Lost! But I gotta admit...pretty good stuff.

Invasion...Threshold still holds the #1 spot in my mind for this season. Invasion had a somewhat interesting body snatchers kind of start, but the real interesting stuff didn't begin until the last twenty minutes (and even then, it was like...pffff). I was bored for the first forty minutes. >_> Threshold had me from the first MINUTE!

Yeah, David is a bit fun to watch. :P He's cute, and shouldn't be. I caught a few episodes of Buffy this morning (I was eating and needed to watch SOMETHING) and remembered WHY it was so cool to me when I was younger. It was the TV I broke my figurative cherry on. ;) First series to make me watch, and NEED to watch, week after week. First one that I cared about the characters. The episodes where the ones right before Buffy and Angel made sweet, sweet love. (Rotfl.)

I'd forgotten I even had a VCR and blank tapes!! Er, two VCRs. (And three TVs--why does woozy only have one?)

Who is Data and Brent Spiner?

NightStalker definitely looks interesting...I don't need to comment on the Love Hewitt series. ;)
Cinenaut
post #20  on September 22, 2005 - 8:45 AM PDT  
The opening sequence in the premiere of Lost was wonderful. It left me chuckling in glee.

I've got Earl taped, but beyond that, I haven't seen any new shows yet.

> On September 21, 2005 - 5:11 PM PDT pooja wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> [snip]...and the face of Bob Denver, a dead TV star...[snip]
> ---------------------------------

Okay, now you're rubbing the icon thing in, pooja. ;p I'll come up with a new one one of these days.
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