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The SciFi Channel's Eureka
Topic by: jross3
Posted: July 18, 2006 - 11:26 PM PDT
Last Reply: July 30, 2006 - 2:16 PM PDT

author topic: The SciFi Channel's Eureka
jross3
post #1  on July 18, 2006 - 11:26 PM PDT  
The pilot ep aired tonight; speaking for myself, the jury's in - on the charge of Sci-Fi Goodness, we find the suspect guilty.

the sci-fi element is better than the previews made it out to be (the hexapod fishing boat was a little much for me). at the same time, it's really a lot like a normal small town; the specifics of the problems are high-tech, but the people are the same... except for the big-game hunter dog-catcher... and most of the other people... hmm... well, it's like a bunch of unusually skilled people all moved to a small town and got all domestic. and that's pretty much what it is. And it works! it works really well. I like it, i'm looking forward to more.
jeffs
post #2  on July 19, 2006 - 10:50 AM PDT  

I think I'm going to give it a few more episodes before I judge it. I liked the first episode, but it also didn't really suck me in. It seemed almost a little too candy-coated to me. Andy Griffith meets Weird Science or something like that. They certainly have a lot of material that they can work with, but how they will execute is still a question in my mind. They hint that there may be a deeper more sinister central plot so maybe (hopefully) it will get a little bit grittier or darker.
hamano
post #3  on July 19, 2006 - 10:52 AM PDT  
What's this show about? Give us a link for goodness sake!
hamano
post #4  on July 19, 2006 - 10:55 AM PDT  
Yow! Talk about FANTASY.... No wonder Washington DC is such a mess... the best and brightest are stuck in some kind of utopian concentration camp...
jeffs
post #5  on July 19, 2006 - 1:25 PM PDT  

In many ways the society reminded me of the utopia in Atlas Shrugged. All the best and brightest sneak away to a utopia that the world doesn't know about. Only in this case instead of entrepreneurs they are scientists and instead of escaping the government they are working with them.

jross3
post #6  on July 19, 2006 - 2:43 PM PDT  
> On July 19, 2006 - 10:50 AM PDT jeffs wrote:
> ---------------------------------
>
> I think I'm going to give it a few more episodes before I judge it. I liked the first episode, but it also didn't really suck me in. It seemed almost a little too candy-coated to me. Andy Griffith meets Weird Science or something like that.

I think that was probably part of their pitch. I think the question now is something like this: In the coming eps, which will it be more of? Small towns are by nature calm and peaceful compared to big cities, and the crime rates are notoriously low - but normally, the people living there aren't capable of building doomsday machines. In Eureka, even the little kids are familiar with the Doomsday algorithm. I can imagine that it won't be as simple for the new sheriff as it was for Andy.

I don't think it'll get really dark, though. It's a small town, and he's the sheriff; it's his job to make sure things don't get "dark". There aren't a whole lot of serial killers in town, although there might be two or three. But his everyday job is going to be dealing with everyday problems ("we got a noise complaint; would you please turn your particle accelerator down?"), and the kind of stuff that happened in the pilot won't happen too often. But there will be intrigue, and mysterious unseen forces moving behind the scenes. Maybe once or twice a season, they'll kidnap his daughter and tie her to a train, or an interstellar teleporter, or a tesla coil, or something fun like that. I dunno; just be glad I'm not writing for them.


And for the record, I think candy coating is delicious.
jeffs
post #7  on July 20, 2006 - 6:29 AM PDT  

Perhaps dark was too strong of a word to use. I agree, it will never be dark. Just the way they solved the problem in the first episode was just too neat and simple. If the "idiot cop" character is going to continue to solve problems it will be interesting to see if it falls into a formulaic trap of stumbling across the solution every time. Maybe he'll be the one person with common sense in the whole town. In any case I'll stick with it to see what's going to happen.

Candy-coating is good, but it really depends what's on the inside.



Battie
post #8  on July 30, 2006 - 2:35 AM PDT  
I finally saw the first two episodes and gotta admit...it was a lot better than I thought. I'm into a bit of quirky humor. But I think the series will have a problem, besides finding enough conflict to cover every episode. While it's obviously not a huge production like BG, it doesn't look particularly cheap either. Will they get enough viewers to justify the cost?

I saw the season preview for Battlestar Galactica. I think I'm going to cry in joy.

I also hunted down the premiere of The Amazing Screw-On Head on their website (I didn't know it was premiering the night it came on...). The artwork was very stylish and interesting, but it was the dialogue that had me giggling. The villain was so very Johnny Depp. Rotfl.
hamano
post #9  on July 30, 2006 - 8:02 AM PDT  
> On July 30, 2006 - 2:35 AM PDT Battie wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> I also hunted down the premiere of The Amazing Screw-On Head on their website (I didn't know it was premiering the night it came on...).

Oh, that was brilliant and hilarious! "Indignities? I happen to work for the President of the United States!" What a great line!

> The artwork was very stylish and interesting, but it was the dialogue that had me giggling.

Everything had a double entendre... very clever. The artwork is very "American comix" with a bit of Monty Python. The steampunk elements were nicely done (and again, funny!)

> The villain was so very Johnny Depp. Rotfl.

Actually, that was David Hyde Pierce, Niles Crane from FRASIER. He's a great voice actor... he was the walking stick on A Bug's Life and the voice of the aquatic guy (Abe Sapien) in Hellboy (which is the connection to Amazing Screw-On Head... Mike Mignola did both original comics).
hamano
post #10  on July 30, 2006 - 8:04 AM PDT  
Oh... here's the link if you want to see the pilot episode of Amazing Screw-on Head.
Battie
post #11  on July 30, 2006 - 10:05 AM PDT  
> On July 30, 2006 - 8:02 AM PDT hamano wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Actually, that was David Hyde Pierce, Niles Crane from FRASIER. He's a great voice actor... he was the walking stick on A Bug's Life and the voice of the aquatic guy (Abe Sapien) in Hellboy (which is the connection to Amazing Screw-On Head... Mike Mignola did both original comics).
> ---------------------------------

I know, lol! Very proper voice, too. I merely meant it was a character that reminded me strongly of some Depp roles and lines. Jack Sparrow being one of them, of course...but also the CIA guy he played in Once Upon a Time in Mexico.

But that pilot was awesome. I hope this series doesn't find itself without viewers.

Funny thing, I've been arguing with a friend of mine for a few months over Sci-Fi channel's quality. I say it's getting better and better while he maintains there's nothing different, it's still mainly uncreative trash. Anyone agree with him? :D
hamano
post #12  on July 30, 2006 - 10:46 AM PDT  
I think everyone with a taste for political satire and bashing the Bush White House will tune in... I can't speak for the entire SciFi Channel because I don't have cable, but whoever picked up Screwed on Head is smart and has his heart in the right place (I dunno about his head or his groin...)

They actually showed a prisoner being tortured, right in the Oval Office! And all the bad guys are past loves, friends and faithful servants... Then there's a hostage abduction at the end.

It's too bad Colin Powell is either too loyal or too scared to say, "Indignities? I used to work for the President of the United States!"
Battie
post #13  on July 30, 2006 - 12:13 PM PDT  
> On July 30, 2006 - 10:46 AM PDT hamano wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> I think everyone with a taste for political satire and bashing the Bush White House will tune in... I can't speak for the entire SciFi Channel because I don't have cable, but whoever picked up Screwed on Head is smart and has his heart in the right place (I dunno about his head or his groin...)
>
> They actually showed a prisoner being tortured, right in the Oval Office! And all the bad guys are past loves, friends and faithful servants... Then there's a hostage abduction at the end.
>
> It's too bad Colin Powell is either too loyal or too scared to say, "Indignities? I used to work for the President of the United States!"
> ---------------------------------

Well, when Sci-Fi channel first came out, I didn't have it but a few years later I did get to catch some of it at other people's houses. It wasn't spectacular, but considering this was the mid-90s, it wasn't bad either. But the last few years have produces some utter trash on Sci-Fi. If it was bad sci-fi or bad horror, you could bet your last dollar it'd be on sci-fi at some point. This included some of their "original" productions. *shudder*

The last...six to eight months have shown a little bit more improvement though. Some of their original movies aren't as horrible as they have been in the past and their original series have definite creativity and personality behind them. IMO, Battlestar Galactica is at least partially responsible. When you finally get a hit show, one assumes you might start getting a budget for other shows that aren't trash. :P

Let me see if I can think of an example...That movie about the Greek myth of the Minotaur wasn't too bad. Not something spectacular, but compared to quite a few movies they put out in 2005, it was genuis, lmfao! The mini-series with that chick from Bood Rayne wasn't as bad as Earthsea (which was pretty boring and...Just all-around lame). But it's definitely their series that have improved. Besides The Amazing Screw-On Head, Battlestar Galactica and Eureka, they picked up Doctor Who from the BBC and Dead Like Me from Showtime. They have also showed The 4400 and Surface every so often and are supposed to start showing 2005's Night Stalker. Sucks that ALL of 2005's paranormal series, except for the WB's Supernatural, were cancelled. Not to mention Commander-and-Chief. :( But at least Sci-Fi is there to help out, hahaha.

So, basically...it's my opinion that the Sci-Fi channel is attempting to take itself seriously for once. Then again, they also picked up Dark Angel which...has some very errrg acting from whatever her name is. The chick who played Honey in...Honey.

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I was browsing IMDb and came across this synopsis for "The Plight of Clowana":

"This is a brilliant work of art and very well put together.. A short but extremely funny film about a dancing Banana and his rival Dildoman.There isn't a dull moment from beginning to end."

...I bet.
Battie
post #14  on July 30, 2006 - 12:17 PM PDT  
> On July 30, 2006 - 10:46 AM PDT hamano wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> I think everyone with a taste for political satire and bashing the Bush White House will tune in... I can't speak for the entire SciFi Channel because I don't have cable, but whoever picked up Screwed on Head is smart and has his heart in the right place (I dunno about his head or his groin...)
>
> They actually showed a prisoner being tortured, right in the Oval Office! And all the bad guys are past loves, friends and faithful servants... Then there's a hostage abduction at the end.
>
> It's too bad Colin Powell is either too loyal or too scared to say, "Indignities? I used to work for the President of the United States!"
> ---------------------------------

Forgot to add that I'm betting that a few special interest groups are going to start screaming about defaming our beloved President Lincoln, nevermind the zombies, vampires and general mystic mayhem. Bah!

I think there's a special pledge you have to take when you work for people like Bush.

"I promise never to tell my true opinion about anything you or the admistration does if it's negative, under the pain of assassination. This I do pinkie-swear."
hamano
post #15  on July 30, 2006 - 12:34 PM PDT  
> On July 30, 2006 - 12:17 PM PDT Battie wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Forgot to add that I'm betting that a few special interest groups are going to start screaming about defaming our beloved President Lincoln

I think that's a comment on how the Republican Party has changed over the years, from the party of the people to a party that co-opts the god-fearing masses to do the bidding of the rich elite. Even now, though, they don't miss a chance to point out that they are "the Party of Lincoln" as if they still honored Lincoln's ideals... I think the communicator they show when Lincoln calls on Screwed on Head, with the mechanically flapping mouth, is sort of a visual metaphor...
jeffs
post #16  on July 30, 2006 - 2:16 PM PDT  

I agree that sci-fi is getting better. I thought it was great to one of the HD stations show Battlestar as well. When other networks show your stuff its a good sign your doing good work. I can't wait until they get an HD station of their own though.

I had hopes they would start making new Firefly episodes when they started running the old episodes. At this point I have enough confidence in them doing a good job with it.

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