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Fall TV, 2007 Edition
Topic by: Battie
Posted: May 29, 2007 - 7:37 PM PDT
Last Reply: March 10, 2008 - 3:29 PM PDT

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author topic: Fall TV, 2007 Edition
Battie
post #1  on May 29, 2007 - 7:37 PM PDT  
Part A:

Well, to start off, let me remind everyone of my deep and abiding hatred for reality tv. I dearly wish to go back in time so I can murder the people who came up with Real World, Survivor and American Idol. Especially that last one.

CBS replaced Jericho with Kid Nation. If I didn't hate reality tv shows on principle, I might actually be interested in that. Throw a bunch of kids into relative isolation with the instructions to build their own world? Heh heh. Depending on how it's worked out, might be interesting (kind of like that famous prisoner/guard psychology experiment was interesting, even though it had to be terminated early).

But most of the shows I enjoy were renewed. Heroes (was it just me, or was the finale kind of tepid?), Law & Order: SVU, Supernatural (second season better than the first!), House, Desperate Housewives (damn you, woozy), Grey's Anatomy, Cold Case (I dig the flashbacks - did anyone see the episode with the 80's male dancer? Am I the only one who went 'ooohhhh'?), and CSI (actually kind of bored with this, but I'm so used to watching it at this point that I can't seem to let it go).
Battie
post #2  on May 29, 2007 - 8:14 PM PDT  
Part B (the stuff I'll watch):

So they're coming out with a whole lotta new shows, many of which will probably be canceled about two or three weeks in.

First up, the show my friend called the second sign of society going to hell: Cavemen. Yes, from the Geico commercials. *giggle*

Private Practice, the spin-off of Grey's Anatomy. Given that I enjoyed the peek they showed a few weeks ago (and the sparks between the redhead and the Rob guy), I'll catch this.

Journeyman, about a dude who can travel to the past. Said dude used to BE in the past, back when he was on Rome.

Bionic Woman. We are reaching so far into the past that not even Journeyman can bring us back!

Eli Stone, who can tell us where Journeyman will go before he even does!

Pushing Daisies, which is all about why we should invest heavily in cremation. After all, if I went through the trouble of killing someone, why would I want some strange guy bringing back my victim?

Women's Murder Club, which SHOULD be about women killing the writers of American Idol, but is instead about the James Patterson books.

Cane, where I hope to see sexy Latino pirates. But will probably just see a lot of Latin drama (which is okay, too, since the English captions on Telemundo usually suck).

Swingtown, which is for the weeks where Cane doesn't give me any sexy Latino action. We could all use a little swapping around, yeah? (But how did this get on broadcast tv?)

Moonlight, about the guy you CAN'T kill. Probaby some sexy Latino vampires in there to go with my sexy Latino pirates. It must be my lucky year. (Speaking of PI's and vamps, Blood Ties will also being coming back this fall for the second half of its first season.)

K-Ville, which I might watch to see if there are any Cajun voodoo priestesses running about post-Katrina N'Awlins. That'd go well with the pirates!

New Amsterdam, about ANOTHER dude who won't die. WHY WON'T THEY DIE!? (Ack, and there are a lot of exotic names attached to this one! What will the Family Council say!?)

The Return of Jezebel James, which only makes me wonder if Jezebel is her name, nickname or profession. I'm hoping for the latter.

The Sarah Connor Chronicles. Now we can all find out if Sarah ever got laid again after T1. Or maybe that's just me?

And last, but not least, Reaper. Sounds like a spin-off of Supernatural, which is just fine by me. Bounty hunting for the Satan...they could SO have come up with a sexier name.
Battie
post #3  on May 29, 2007 - 8:29 PM PDT  
Part C (the stuff I won't watch):

Lipstick Jungle, a tamed down, work-oriented Sex in the City. I hate Candace Bushnell.

Chuck, about the dude who, somehow, gets a secret database downloaded to his brain and becomes a secret agent. Sounds like My Name is Earl in the Pentagon.

The IT Crowd: The Office, Geek Edition.

Life: 'I Went to Prison for Something I Didn't Do and Came Out a Better Man' or: The Joys of Prison Rehabilitation When You Didn't Need It (Oddly, a white dude is the star. Who knew?)

Miss/Guided, which is very likely an Ugly Betty-esque show about the chick who goes back to her HS all so she can guide the next generation to the right path.

Sam I Am, which sounds like ABC learned a lot from their Grey's Anatomy amnesia victim.

Big Bang Theory: Beauty & the Geek, Non-Reality Edition

Viva Laughlin! just goes to show us that what the BBC does, America must as well. Musicals. God help me.

The Rules for Starting Over, which is really a cross between Starter Wife and The New Adventures of Old Christine, with a gender switch.

Starter Wife - ehhh...no.

Nashville, a 'docu-soap' with country music. I'm not sure what scares me more.

Canterbury's Law, a court drama with a FEMALE attorney this time. Oh wait, we have some of those! Oops.

Back to You, which isn't about a romance at all. Instead it's Kelsey Grammer in a news studio.

Aliens in American. I'm betting the original 'alien' wasn't Pakistani at all. Or maybe I'm just hoping the writers originally wanted to be more 'edgy' by throwing in an Afghani. In Wisconsin.

Gossip Girl, about wealthy teenagers in NYC. Where's the beach and bikinis?

Life is Wild, an American family in Africa. Awwww.
Battie
post #4  on May 29, 2007 - 8:42 PM PDT  
Part C, cont. (oops):

Big Shots, execs we should go 'aww' over because they have friends. I know if I had money, I wouldn't have friends.

Cashmere Mafia: Lipstick Jungle, Mommy Edition

Carpoolers. Yes, about men going to work in a carpool.

Dirty Sexy Money...indeed.


Part D (reality tv & game shows):

Renewed: 1 vs. 100, Deal or No Deal, Dancing with the Stars, Bachelor, Super Nanny, Extreme Makeover: Home Edition, America's Funniest Home Videos (don't we have YouTube for that?), Wife Swap, Survivor, Amazing Race, COPS, Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader?, American Idol (was there ever any doubt?), Pussycat Dolls Presents, Beauty and the Geek, America's Next Top Model.

New: Kid Nation, The Singing Bee, World Moves, The Search for the Next Great American Band, Kitchen Nightmares (more British imitation), Crowned: The Mother of All Pageants (Little Miss Sunshine this is not), Farmer Wants a Wife (Bachelor, Poor People's Edition), Online Nation (where The CW bring YouTube to people without internet!).
underdog
post #5  on May 30, 2007 - 11:47 AM PDT  
I *still* can't believe there's gonna be a TV show spun off from the Geico commercials. I mean, I dig those cavemen, the ads are really clever, but to stretch it out to a half hour show? Smacks of desperation. Maybe I'll be proven wrong... they have to give it some different twists... But I'm still guessing it's gonna be short-lived.
woozy
post #6  on May 30, 2007 - 2:21 PM PDT  
> On May 30, 2007 - 11:47 AM PDT underdog wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> I *still* can't believe there's gonna be a TV show spun off from the Geico commercials. I mean, I dig those cavemen, the ads are really clever, but to stretch it out to a half hour show? Smacks of desperation. Maybe I'll be proven wrong... they have to give it some different twists... But I'm still guessing it's gonna be short-lived.
>
> ---------------------------------

Um, perhaps the Gieco commercials were a teaser for the show all along... Um, what's the premise? There pretty much has to be a twisty premise if it's to make it. Seems like Munster's style shows ("There's something weird about the neighbors") went out of style once the seventies began and the fifties ended.

Pushing Daisies looks intriguing but the thirty-second spot I saw for it was purposely non-forthcoming about any details. What's it about?

Battie
post #7  on May 31, 2007 - 5:37 AM PDT  
> On May 30, 2007 - 2:21 PM PDT woozy wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> > On May 30, 2007 - 11:47 AM PDT underdog wrote:
> > ---------------------------------
> > I *still* can't believe there's gonna be a TV show spun off from the Geico commercials. I mean, I dig those cavemen, the ads are really clever, but to stretch it out to a half hour show? Smacks of desperation. Maybe I'll be proven wrong... they have to give it some different twists... But I'm still guessing it's gonna be short-lived.
> >
> > ---------------------------------
>
> Um, perhaps the Gieco commercials were a teaser for the show all along... Um, what's the premise? There pretty much has to be a twisty premise if it's to make it. Seems like Munster's style shows ("There's something weird about the neighbors") went out of style once the seventies began and the fifties ended.
>

My grandmother actually got ANGRY when I told her about the new Cavemen series. *giggle* And supposedly it's going to be about a group of hip, young cavemen trying to make it in today's world. Or something.

"Based on the famous Geico commercials, this new comedy follows three cavemen trying to find success, acceptance, and love in the modern world."

The love bit must be the 'or something.'

> Pushing Daisies looks intriguing but the thirty-second spot I saw for it was purposely non-forthcoming about any details. What's it about?
> ---------------------------------

Some guy has the power to bring to dead back to life. Me, I think the guy should hook up with Eli Stone and go on the road as the Jesus Duo. It helps that they're on the same network.

(Speaking of which, it's the same network Cavemen and Dirty Sexy Money is going to be on. Who knew ABC could be so trashy? Oh wait, Wife Swap. Riiiight.)
woozy
post #8  on May 31, 2007 - 10:11 AM PDT  
> On May 31, 2007 - 5:37 AM PDT Battie wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> "Based on the famous Geico commercials, this new comedy follows three cavemen trying to find success, acceptance, and love in the modern world."
>
Ooog. This is what happens when you put off your work until the morning subway commute. Had the exec looked at the next poster ad we could have had a "Kaplan College"; a sitcom about Gabe Kaplan tutoring people in getting their GEDs.
underdog
post #9  on May 31, 2007 - 11:59 AM PDT  
> On May 31, 2007 - 10:11 AM PDT woozy wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> > On May 31, 2007 - 5:37 AM PDT Battie wrote:
> > ---------------------------------
> > "Based on the famous Geico commercials, this new comedy follows three cavemen trying to find success, acceptance, and love in the modern world."
> >
> Ooog. This is what happens when you put off your work until the morning subway commute. Had the exec looked at the next poster ad we could have had a "Kaplan College"; a sitcom about Gabe Kaplan tutoring people in getting their GEDs.
> ---------------------------------

Ooooo! Oooo! Mr. Kot-ter!

Man, ABC is turning into Fox Lite. Sad.
woozy
post #10  on May 31, 2007 - 1:40 PM PDT  
> On May 31, 2007 - 11:59 AM PDT underdog wrote:

>
> Ooooo! Oooo! Mr. Kot-ter!
>
"Now if you had just paid attention when I tried to teach you 30 years ago..."

I'm assuming they have Kaplan Colleges in Manhattan where I further assume the ABC programming execs work.

This could be a new game. Look at an ad on the subway (or bart, or the bus, or whereever) and come-up with a TV show premise. How many folks do you think will tune into "Battered Women's Shelter".

Or "Can you hear me now?" the zany adventures of a cell phone company representative going to remote places in the US to test his company's network and the wacky situations he gets himself into each week with a touching resolution and the hilarious sign-off catch phrase "Can you hear me now"?



Battie
post #11  on May 31, 2007 - 4:31 PM PDT  
> On May 31, 2007 - 1:40 PM PDT woozy wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> > On May 31, 2007 - 11:59 AM PDT underdog wrote:
>
> >
> > Ooooo! Oooo! Mr. Kot-ter!
> >

Yep, definitely becoming Fox-Lite. I actually THOUGHT Cavemen was on Fox. X)

> "Now if you had just paid attention when I tried to teach you 30 years ago..."
>
> I'm assuming they have Kaplan Colleges in Manhattan where I further assume the ABC programming execs work.
>
> This could be a new game. Look at an ad on the subway (or bart, or the bus, or whereever) and come-up with a TV show premise. How many folks do you think will tune into "Battered Women's Shelter".
>
> Or "Can you hear me now?" the zany adventures of a cell phone company representative going to remote places in the US to test his company's network and the wacky situations he gets himself into each week with a touching resolution and the hilarious sign-off catch phrase "Can you hear me now"?
> ---------------------------------

That's coming next Spring. I'm sure of it.
Battie
post #12  on June 1, 2007 - 12:19 AM PDT  
Part E?:

And not to forget other channels with original programming...Blood Ties comes back to Lifetime this fall, The 4400 starts its fourth? season the 17th on USA. Eureka should be coming back on Sci-Fi this summer (July 10th), along Weeds on Showtime (August 6th).

The Tudors is still ongoing, and while my subtitle-hating friend loves it, I'm not nearly as thrilled. It's good, and Rhys is hot...but there's also something that throws me off. Maybe like they're all trying too hard? Or maybe that not a single major character is ordinary. Maybe that would diminish the series appeal, but surely not everyone in the 1500s had THAT much personal drama going on?

Flash Gordon, if you're interested (not sure I am) premieres August 10th on SF. November 1st is the return of Battlestar Galactica, and it can't come too soon (unfortunately, it doesn't look like season four? will be ending definitively). A month later, we get Tin Man, but that's for Winter '07.

And if you're on Greencine, there's a 60% chance you'll like the fact that Sci-Fi is now going to have an anime night starting June 11th. It's going to have shows and movies: Blood the Last Vampire, Ninja Scroll, Noein (the only one I'm excited about since I have NS on DVD), TOKKO, GitS: SSS, Read or Die, Blackjack and Street Fighter II V. I'm wondering when my head is going to implode. When did anime become the new thing...for that matter, when did all these sci-fi and horror flicks start being In? King has a half dozen movies coming out (The Mist, thankfully, is going to hold some reasonably good actors and a reasonably good director--anything else would send me into a large rage than that horror of a tv flick called Desperation).

There's also a new show (maybe two) on Lifetime, Army Wives. I'll go ahead and catch the premiere, but I have no real expectations for wanting to watch more than the pilot.

And if you failed to notice it, both Doctor Who and Regenesis are airing their third seasons in their respective countries. I believe the latter is coming to American tv soon, and the former's 3rd season will start on SF in July. Aren't we all lucky? >:)


By the way, has anyone been watching Blood Ties? (Dresden Files' finale was more than a little bit of a letdown. Actually, the series as a whole was just okay - Blood Ties is hot though. XD)
underdog
post #13  on June 1, 2007 - 11:55 AM PDT  
> On June 1, 2007 - 12:19 AM PDT Battie wrote:
> ---------------------------------

> There's also a new show (maybe two) on Lifetime, Army Wives. I'll go ahead and catch the premiere, but I have no real expectations for wanting to watch more than the pilot.

Lifetime Channel + show called "Army Wives" and, yeah, I'd say having no expectations is a good thing. ;-) Well, I guess you never know...

>
Good stuff on Sci-Fi channel to look forward to. Their original programming (+ Dr. Who) almost make up for their atrocious made-for-tv movies about killer CGI snakes and whatnot.

I agree with you about The Tudors - I tried to get into it but just couldn't. It's all well made and well acted and yet... who cares? That's okay, there's too much to do and watch these days without getting sucked into more. Finally almost through "Rome" and then I realized I have about 5 seasons of The Sopranos to catch up on, yikes. Plus all the Tivo'd shows.
Battie
post #14  on June 1, 2007 - 5:05 PM PDT  
> On June 1, 2007 - 11:55 AM PDT underdog wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Lifetime Channel + show called "Army Wives" and, yeah, I'd say having no expectations is a good thing. ;-) Well, I guess you never know...
>

Pretty much. There was a reason I wanted to see the pilot, but can't recall. Maybe just the prospect of a boring summer?

> >
> Good stuff on Sci-Fi channel to look forward to. Their original programming (+ Dr. Who) almost make up for their atrocious made-for-tv movies about killer CGI snakes and whatnot.
>

Rotflmao!

> I agree with you about The Tudors - I tried to get into it but just couldn't. It's all well made and well acted and yet... who cares? That's okay, there's too much to do and watch these days without getting sucked into more. Finally almost through "Rome" and then I realized I have about 5 seasons of The Sopranos to catch up on, yikes. Plus all the Tivo'd shows.
> ---------------------------------

Jeez. Glad I could never get into Sopranos. How was the second season of Rome?
Battie
post #15  on June 18, 2007 - 12:16 AM PDT  
So Doctor Who is two episodes from over for a year...and if anyone else is watching, stop at episode ten. Wait till episodes 11-13 have aired to finished watching Doctor Who. Episode 11 has the worst cliffhanger I have EVER seen. ARGH! Worse even than the last BG ep!
artifex
post #16  on June 18, 2007 - 11:01 AM PDT  
> On May 30, 2007 - 11:47 AM PDT underdog wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> I *still* can't believe there's gonna be a TV show spun off from the Geico commercials. I mean, I dig those cavemen, the ads are really clever, but to stretch it out to a half hour show? Smacks of desperation. Maybe I'll be proven wrong... they have to give it some different twists... But I'm still guessing it's gonna be short-lived.
>
> ---------------------------------

Hey, I wonder if this means the return of Pauly Sho-ore. I hope not.

(thbppppt I'm a weasel!)
artifex
post #17  on June 18, 2007 - 11:14 AM PDT  
> On May 31, 2007 - 1:40 PM PDT woozy wrote:

> This could be a new game. Look at an ad on the subway (or bart, or the bus, or whereever) and come-up with a TV show premise. How many folks do you think will tune into "Battered Women's Shelter".

The same people who love Oprah and that show with the women living in the halfway house together who always break down and cry when asked to do anything because they had such a harrrrrd life doing drugs before, will love it. Just call it something "Girl's Club." You can sell almost anything to insecure (i.e, most) women by advertising it as "just us girls" with that pretense at being sisterly, etc. :)

artifex
post #18  on June 18, 2007 - 11:21 AM PDT  
> On June 18, 2007 - 12:16 AM PDT Battie wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> So Doctor Who is two episodes from over for a year...and if anyone else is watching, stop at episode ten. Wait till episodes 11-13 have aired to finished watching Doctor Who. Episode 11 has the worst cliffhangeratche I have EVER seen. ARGH! Worse even than the last BG ep!
> ---------------------------------

what, the empty child? I'm waiting for part 2, also. :)
Of course, my sister actually rented the dvd of that season, that's how long the delay was in getting to PBS, so I could have just watched it with her. Now we have pledge drive...
woozy
post #19  on June 18, 2007 - 11:34 AM PDT  
> On June 18, 2007 - 11:21 AM PDT artifex wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> > On June 18, 2007 - 12:16 AM PDT Battie wrote:
> > ---------------------------------
> > So Doctor Who is two episodes from over for a year...and if anyone else is watching, stop at episode ten. Wait till episodes 11-13 have aired to finished watching Doctor Who. Episode 11 has the worst cliffhangeratche I have EVER seen. ARGH! Worse even than the last BG ep!
> > ---------------------------------
>
> what, the empty child? I'm waiting for part 2, also. :)


Wait. What season/episodes are you two talking about? "Runaway Bride" the 'christmas special' (whatever that means?) between season 2 and 3?

Season One is all on DVD and Season Two is all on DVD but it doesn't have "runaway bride" which I haven't seen. Instead the season ends with a teaser for runaway bride which isn't much of a cliff hanger, just a teaser.

I don't have cable so I have no idea whats going on there but I was under the impression they showed season 2 a while ago.

Season 3 just finished on the BBC appearantly. Maybe I should look and see if they sell 'em on itunes or if I can bittorrent them.

See here for a list of episodes so we can describe what we're talking about. Battie, scroll down to the Ninth and Tenth doctor to get to the new episodes.



> Of course, my sister actually rented the dvd of that season, that's how long the delay was in getting to PBS, so I could have just watched it with her. Now we have pledge drive...
> ---------------------------------

artifex
post #20  on June 18, 2007 - 11:51 AM PDT  
> Wait. What season/episodes are you two talking about? "Runaway Bride" the 'christmas special' (whatever that means?) between season 2 and 3?

PBS here is showing "season one."
Of course the real season one was black and white, but...

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