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Firefly on DVD?
Topic by: hamano
Posted: October 5, 2003 - 9:46 PM PDT
Last Reply: January 23, 2005 - 12:50 AM PST

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author topic: Firefly on DVD?
hamano
post #1  on October 5, 2003 - 9:46 PM PDT  
Do you think Firefly should be released on DVD? I said before that it's a Trigun/Cowboy Bebop ripoff, but I think it deserves another life. The show was just starting to get interesting! I mean, they're releasing The Tick and My Big Fat Greek Wedding TV show on DVD, with extra episodes that were never aired!

I think it'll do fairly well if they acknowledge the show's anime origins and market it like an OAV series... Maybe ADV or CPM can pick it up...
stevendj
post #2  on October 6, 2003 - 7:03 AM PDT  
> On October 5, 2003 - 9:46 PM PDT hamano wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Do you think Firefly should be released on DVD?

Whether it should be or not, it will be. Release date Dec. 9th. Lots of bonus features. I've already pre-ordered my copy.

Rumor has it that Whedon is working on a Firefly movie.
msilenus
post #3  on October 6, 2003 - 8:18 AM PDT  
I was reading the Tick comic since the early 90s...well I live near Boston where the creator and writer Edlund got his start. I enjoyed the show but it started straying too much into Seinfeld country there probably because of Larry David's input. Edlund is doing very well as a producer and sometimes writer on Angel now. If you can get copies of the comic they are gutbustingly funny.-MS
larbeck
post #4  on October 6, 2003 - 10:09 AM PDT  
Yet another foggy mental breakdown. At the time the Firefly was cancelled, Joss W. said that he had some other episodes and they would be airred at a later date. Did this happen? I probably just missed it, darn it!

And yes, everything should be on DVD. Everything, whether is good or not, needs to be digitize at least once. Whether I will rent it or not, or if Greencine should by it is another matter. But for Firefly, the answer is "yes" and "yes". I miss one or two even before it announced that it was cancelled.

larbeck
post #5  on October 6, 2003 - 10:12 AM PDT  
> On October 5, 2003 - 9:46 PM PDT hamano wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> I think it'll do fairly well if they acknowledge the show's anime origins and market it like an OAV series... Maybe ADV or CPM can pick it up...
> ---------------------------------
ooooo, and not necessarily a full hentai production, but there could a more in depth portrayal of that wonderful character that just cries out for fan service, I forget her name. Okay, I would not even mind a nice hentai spinoff, either, if it was well done.

hamano
post #6  on October 6, 2003 - 10:39 AM PDT  
> On October 6, 2003 - 10:12 AM PDT larbeck wrote:
> ---------------------------------
I would not even mind a nice hentai spinoff, either, if it was well done.
> ---------------------------------

Well spoken, Mr. larbeck! How about:

"We follow the randy adventures of the SpanishFly-class pleasure cruiser Serenity, as they try to smuggle contraband sex-toys and lingerie to the outer worlds right under the noses of the puritan death-squads of the Anglo-Sino Alliance."
stevendj
post #7  on October 6, 2003 - 12:12 PM PDT  
> On October 6, 2003 - 10:09 AM PDT larbeck wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Yet another foggy mental breakdown. At the time the
>Firefly was cancelled, Joss W. said that he had some other
>episodes and they would be airred at a later date. Did
>this happen? I probably just missed it, darn it!

I should have mentioned that: the DVD release includes the three episodes that never aired. Also commentary on several episodes, deleted scenes, outtakes, and embarrassing musical numbers.
syntax
post #8  on October 6, 2003 - 2:30 PM PDT  
> I think it'll do fairly well if they acknowledge the
> show's anime origins and market it like an OAV series...
> Maybe ADV or CPM can pick it up...

I can see someone coming up with this show not having seen any anime. It's possible that it was based on other stuff that was originally based on anime, but that doesn't mean that the creator knew about the anime influences. Of course, it could actually be and I just don't know about it.


"Those wacky ninjas!"
hamano
post #9  on October 6, 2003 - 3:01 PM PDT  
> On October 6, 2003 - 2:30 PM PDT syntax wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> I can see someone coming up with this show not having seen any anime. It's possible that it was based on other stuff that was originally based on anime, but that doesn't mean that the creator knew about the anime influences.
> ---------------------------------

Oh, come on! We're talking about Joss Whedon and his posse!
larbeck
post #10  on October 7, 2003 - 9:11 AM PDT  
> On October 6, 2003 - 3:01 PM PDT hamano wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Oh, come on! We're talking about Joss Whedon and his posse!
> ---------------------------------
If you have not, check out Titan A.E." A Joss Whedon screenplay, animated by Don Bluth. I LOVE IT!

I just wish there was a version with Japanese audio, English subtitles, and Region 1





chester
post #11  on October 8, 2003 - 2:47 PM PDT  
> On October 6, 2003 - 8:18 AM PDT msilenus wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> I was reading the Tick comic since the early 90s...well I live near Boston where the creator and writer Edlund got his start. I enjoyed the show but it started straying too much into Seinfeld country there probably because of Larry David's input. Edlund is doing very well as a producer and sometimes writer on Angel now. If you can get copies of the comic they are gutbustingly funny.-MS
> ---------------------------------

I saw that!! Edlund was credited as producer I think on the first Ep of Angel. I picked up the cartoon, which I thought was hilarious. Then I got the first run of comics, and they were even better than the cartoon. Some of the funnies comics I've seen. I didn't appreciate the live-action show nearly as much as the comics or cartoon...

Anyway, what was this thread about?
chester
post #12  on October 8, 2003 - 2:48 PM PDT  
> On October 8, 2003 - 2:47 PM PDT chester wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> > On October 6, 2003 - 8:18 AM PDT msilenus wrote:
> > ---------------------------------
> > I was reading the Tick comic since the early 90s...well I live near Boston where the creator and writer Edlund got his start. I enjoyed the show but it started straying too much into Seinfeld country there probably because of Larry David's input. Edlund is doing very well as a producer and sometimes writer on Angel now. If you can get copies of the comic they are gutbustingly funny.-MS
> > ---------------------------------
>
> I saw that!! Edlund was credited as producer I think on the first Ep of Angel. I picked up the cartoon, which I thought was hilarious. Then I got the first run of comics, and they were even better than the cartoon. Some of the funnies comics I've seen. I didn't appreciate the live-action show nearly as much as the comics or cartoon...
>
> Anyway, what was this thread about?
> ---------------------------------

I guess I need to actually use that "preview" button...ho, hum...
syntax
post #13  on October 8, 2003 - 8:58 PM PDT  
> Oh, come on! We're talking about Joss Whedon and his
> posse!

Like I said, "it could actually be and I just don't know about it."
larbeck
post #14  on October 9, 2003 - 9:14 AM PDT  
> On October 8, 2003 - 2:48 PM PDT chester wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> I guess I need to actually use that "preview" button...ho, hum...
> ---------------------------------

I KNOW! Now, instead of "I wish there was an edit button", I'm like "I wish I had USED that edit button". Preview button, same thing. I better use it on THIS post!

maigochan
post #15  on October 9, 2003 - 1:58 PM PDT  
We've got it on order now, so you can queue up all four discs here.

I wanted to see it anyway, but now I'm very curious to see just how Bebop-y it is ...
hamano
post #16  on October 9, 2003 - 3:32 PM PDT  
> On October 9, 2003 - 1:58 PM PDT maigochan wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> I wanted to see it anyway, but now I'm very curious to see just how Bebop-y it is ...
> ---------------------------------

Thanks super acquisitor maigochan! When you find out which disc contains the unaired episodes, pleeeeeeease let us know! I assume disc 4, but that may be just the extras...

I thought the orbital and hyper-gate shots were almost direct quotes of Bebop! The planet-side scenes are bits of Bebop, Trigun and Eat-man 98...
chester
post #17  on October 10, 2003 - 8:37 AM PDT  
> On October 9, 2003 - 1:58 PM PDT maigochan wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> We've got it on order now, so you can queue up all four discs here.
>
> ---------------------------------

Ha! I love your creative links, maigochan :)
larbeck
post #18  on October 10, 2003 - 10:50 PM PDT  
I have to say, that I love Gina Torres. I fell in love with her in Cleopatra 2525, an often really stupid show but a gulity pleasure, especially with the eye candy that pass for borderline fan service on U.S. T.V. She is going places, I am sure.
hamano
post #19  on October 11, 2003 - 9:22 AM PDT  
> On October 10, 2003 - 10:50 PM PDT larbeck wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> I have to say, that I love Gina Torres. I fell in love with her in Cleopatra
> ---------------------------------

We liked her from her pre-Cleopatra stint on the last season of Hercules, where she rocked as some kind of pirate queen who had some on-again off-again thing going with Kevin Sorbo's Herc. I actually felt sorry for her when she ended up on Cleo...that was such a crappy show. We were encouraged on the first season of ALIAS where Torres showed up as Sydney's first tough nemesis (or did she quit ALIAS to go work on Cleo? No, she quit ALIAS to go work on Firefly...I think).

Then Firefly got cancelled so the Whedon posse got her a job playing a cannibalistic demon that was born to Cordelia and Connor on Angel, so of course at the end of the season she was killed off in the climax.

Poor Gina...where will she turn up next? She's a pretty good actress so they should let her be a regular on CSI or something... or do we still want her to keep popping up as a guest on genre UPN/WB/Fox stuff wearing skimpy leather?

Ondo
post #20  on October 12, 2003 - 3:54 AM PDT  
> On October 5, 2003 - 9:46 PM PDT hamano wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Do you think Firefly should be released on DVD? I said before that it's a Trigun/Cowboy Bebop ripoff
> ---------------------------------

That's utter bullshit. Trigun and Cowboy Bebop may, possibly, be amoung the influences, but calling Firefly a ripoff is absurd.

The main influence on Firefly is, as said by Whedon and made fairly obvious from watching the show, not anime but westerns. The civil war is a very obvious parallel to the American Civil War - nothing similar in Bebop or Trigun. The Reavers are the equivalent of Indians in Westerns - again, nothing like them in Bebop or Trigun. Despite the name, there are no cows in Cowboy Bebop, but Firefly has them, along with horses and wagons and trains. The characters in Firefly don't resemble any of the characters in Bebop or Trigun, except perhaps a slight resemblence between Book and Wolfwood (priests who know how to use a gun, which I suspect show up in lots of westerns).

The one thing that looks most like it was inspired by anime is the "girl in a box" thing, which is also in Outlaw Star.
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