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Diary of the Dead
Topic by: Battie
Posted: February 16, 2008 - 12:07 AM PST
Last Reply: February 19, 2008 - 9:46 PM PST

author topic: Diary of the Dead
Battie
post #1  on February 16, 2008 - 12:07 AM PST  
Is it only me who thinks George Romero is pushing 'social commentary' in a completely annoying way? I mean, the 28 movies (yes, I'm silly) say more about human nature than his recent films. It's the same old tired lines: white people put black people down, rich people exploit and will eventually be consumed by flesh-hungry dead people, etc, etc. I think he just feels guilty because he's a pale-skin. Diary of the Dead actually (>_<)...there was a conversation between this black leader and one of the white kids (one of the main characters). He said something along the lines of...now that everyone without a tan has left, we have the power. Meaning everyone with a tan. How obvious can one get before one should be stabbed in the face with a pencil? That said, the end 'social commentary' was actually fairly good.

Social commentary aside, I didn't enjoy the movie that much. Land of the Dead was a lot better. There was only one REALLY good scene that was almost worth the $5 ticket: the Amish guy scene. If you see it, you'll know what I'm talking about.
DLeonard
post #2  on February 17, 2008 - 12:26 AM PST  
I rather enjoyed it, maybe even more than "Land of the Dead". I felt the scene in the hospital was particularly intense. And the visit to Debra's home was a good one too.

I did get a little tired of the narration. And a little tired of the dialog concerning the need to film and what it meant to document.

But for a movie that covers much of the territory that the 4 previous films had (there literally is news program dialog taken straight from "Night of the Living Dead" playing in the background during one scene) "Diary of the Dead" still feels like a fresh addition to the genre.

Samuel, the Amish guy, is an instant classic.
Battie
post #3  on February 17, 2008 - 5:43 PM PST  
> On February 17, 2008 - 12:26 AM PST DLeonard wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> I rather enjoyed it, maybe even more than "Land of the Dead". I felt the scene in the hospital was particularly intense. And the visit to Debra's home was a good one too.
>

The hospital scene was my second favorite in the movie. The house scene, not so much.

> I did get a little tired of the narration. And a little tired of the dialog concerning the need to film and what it meant to document.
>

Dude, they repeated themselves OVER AND OVER. I was ready to stab myself in the face with my pen.

> But for a movie that covers much of the territory that the 4 previous films had (there literally is news program dialog taken straight from "Night of the Living Dead" playing in the background during one scene) "Diary of the Dead" still feels like a fresh addition to the genre.
>

Hmm..not sure about that. But I'd take it over Shaun of the Dead, heh heh. I just rented Undead or Alive (yay for Redbox), so I'll watch that tonight.

> Samuel, the Amish guy, is an instant classic.
> ---------------------------------

OOOh, yeah. I'd watch the movie again (on dvd) just for him.
underdog
post #4  on February 18, 2008 - 10:52 AM PST  
There's actually a fun interview with Romero in the AV Club if y'all are interested. Worth a read.

Also interesting to hear how the lead actor in Night of the Living Dead just happened to be black, was just the best actor of the people they knew, he wasn't interested in racial commentary at all. But because of the events of the time it came out people naturally gravitated toward that aspect of it. But his later films have certainly been full of social commentary, based around various themes.

I do wish he was able to get a bigger budget for these films, attract some better actors. It's kind of sad, really, given the higher-priced horror films that come out these days that are complete abominations and yet attract some good actors. Why can't he get more money?
Vanamonde
post #5  on February 18, 2008 - 10:06 PM PST  
> On February 18, 2008 - 10:52 AM PST underdog wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> I do wish he was able to get a bigger budget for these films, attract some better actors. It's kind of sad, really, given the higher-priced horror films that come out these days that are complete abominations and yet attract some good actors. Why can't he get more money?
> ---------------------------------

Yo! Quentin! I'm talking to YOU, Tarantino!!! You and Robert Rodriguez need to fund Romero and you'll make some more piles of cash and we get to see some GOOD horror movies, instead of that grindhouse crap!!!
Battie
post #6  on February 18, 2008 - 10:49 PM PST  
Undead or Alive was surprisingly good.

"Shoot them in the head!"
"F*** that, RUN!"

James Denton (the plumber guy from Desperate Housewives) was the absolute PERFECT straight man to Chris Kattan. Undead or Alive takes more cues from Return of the Living Dead than anything else. There are parts where I went, "Ha, I've said that sooo many times while watching other flicks."

Excepting the Amish scene, Undead or Alive was better than Diary of the Dead.
Cinenaut
post #7  on February 19, 2008 - 11:03 AM PST  
Okay, it's time for a zombie comedy list. Undead or Alive isn't listed yet! There's also another one called Dead & Breakfast.

> On February 18, 2008 - 10:49 PM PST Battie wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Undead or Alive was surprisingly good.
>
> "Shoot them in the head!"
> "F*** that, RUN!"
>
> James Denton (the plumber guy from Desperate Housewives) was the absolute PERFECT straight man to Chris Kattan. Undead or Alive takes more cues from Return of the Living Dead than anything else. There are parts where I went, "Ha, I've said that sooo many times while watching other flicks."
>
> Excepting the Amish scene, Undead or Alive was better than Diary of the Dead.
> ---------------------------------

underdog
post #8  on February 19, 2008 - 7:18 PM PST  
> On February 19, 2008 - 11:03 AM PST Cinenaut wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Okay, it's time for a zombie comedy list. Undead or Alive isn't listed yet! There's also another one called Dead & Breakfast.
>

Kudos for your list!

Undead or Alive is now undead and alive in our catalog - well, for request, just for now. Request away!

Ditto for Dead and Breakfast.

Brains!
troublemaker
post #9  on February 19, 2008 - 8:38 PM PST  
> On February 19, 2008 - 7:18 PM PST underdog wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> > On February 19, 2008 - 11:03 AM PST Cinenaut wrote:
> > ---------------------------------
> > Okay, it's time for a zombie comedy list. Undead or Alive isn't listed yet! There's also another one called Dead & Breakfast.
> >
>
> Kudos for your list!
>
> Undead or Alive is now undead and alive in our catalog - well, for request, just for now. Request away!
>
> Ditto for Dead and Breakfast.
>
> Brains!
> ---------------------------------



Zombie comedy just reminded me of something. If anyone is looking to buy a gift for that zombie-fan in your life, I fully recommend World War Z: An Oral History of the Zombie War and The Zombie Survival Guide: Complete Protection from the Living Dead. I bought these for my roommate on his birthday and he loved 'em!

Battie
post #10  on February 19, 2008 - 9:46 PM PST  
> On February 19, 2008 - 8:38 PM PST troublemaker wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Zombie comedy just reminded me of something. If anyone is looking to buy a gift for that zombie-fan in your life, I fully recommend World War Z: An Oral History of the Zombie War and The Zombie Survival Guide: Complete Protection from the Living Dead. I bought these for my roommate on his birthday and he loved 'em!
>
>
> ---------------------------------

Yeah, The Zombie Survival Guide was funny for a few minutes, then dry. But about two days later, I was remembering it and giggling. War World Z, on the other hand, was rarely funny. Only truly funny bit I remember was from the veteran of Yonkers story (the bit about lungs). It was, however, the best zombie book ever. I started listening to the audiobook and..the author really doesn't have a voice for storytelling. I think I got halfway through the first WWZ story (in China), before I had to go to work or something. It was pretty good. One day I'll finish listening to it.

All that said, they're making WWZ into a movie (though how Straczynski ended up writing the script is beyond me - I guess even zombie films with a hit book behind them can't get good talent - no offense meant towards Straczsynsko, but he was just writing tv scripts until recently). Wasn't there a conversation about this some months back?

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