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Spiderman 2
Topic by: kohnfused1
Posted: June 29, 2004 - 11:35 AM PDT
Last Reply: August 10, 2004 - 11:12 PM PDT

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author topic: Spiderman 2
kohnfused1
post #1  on June 29, 2004 - 11:35 AM PDT  
Is anyone going to see the midnight screening tonight? If so, can you post your reviews/comments on this thread.
Cinenaut
post #2  on June 29, 2004 - 3:04 PM PDT  
Roger Ebert said it was the best superhero movie he'd ever seen.
kohnfused1
post #3  on June 29, 2004 - 4:38 PM PDT  
> On June 29, 2004 - 3:04 PM PDT Cinenaut wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Roger Ebert said it was the best superhero movie he'd ever seen.
> ---------------------------------
The question is, what did Roper think of it? If they don't both agree, then it's not a concensus. So, I'm assuming you'll be in line tomorrow or maybe even tonight?
Cinenaut
post #4  on June 29, 2004 - 4:41 PM PDT  
I'll probably see it sometime this weekend.
Cinenaut
post #5  on June 29, 2004 - 4:41 PM PDT  
> On June 29, 2004 - 4:38 PM PDT kohnfused1 wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> The question is, what did Roper think of it? If they don't both agree, then it's not a concensus. So, I'm assuming you'll be in line tomorrow or maybe even tonight?
> ---------------------------------

What's-his-name liked it, too.

kohnfused1
post #6  on June 29, 2004 - 4:49 PM PDT  
> On June 29, 2004 - 4:41 PM PDT Cinenaut wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> > On June 29, 2004 - 4:38 PM PDT kohnfused1 wrote:
> > ---------------------------------
> > The question is, what did Roper think of it? If they don't both agree, then it's not a concensus. So, I'm assuming you'll be in line tomorrow or maybe even tonight?
> > ---------------------------------
>
> What's-his-name liked it, too.
>
>
> ---------------------------------
Yeah, people haven't gotten used to "Roper" yet. I don't even know his first name. (Mr.?)

IronS
post #7  on June 29, 2004 - 4:52 PM PDT  
He's Richard Roeper of the Chicago Sun-Times.
JBellows
post #8  on June 29, 2004 - 6:05 PM PDT  
I thought it sucked. Not enough fanservice, no way to show how the Octopus-dude toy works and New York seems to be in perpetual gloom or late afternoon.

Didn't see it, just speaking from seeing the posters on the side of Puny buses.

You couldn't pay me to see this except I will probably get in line anyway because I'm sheep. Baaah. But if you DID offer to pay me to see it...aw, who am I kidding?
Catullus
post #9  on June 29, 2004 - 11:07 PM PDT  
I didn't like Spidermans last movie so probably not.

But what is funny is Jack Blacks mtv spoof of spiderman during the movie awards a year or two ago, now that was f-hilarious.
Cinenaut
post #10  on June 30, 2004 - 9:32 AM PDT  
> On June 29, 2004 - 6:05 PM PDT JBellows wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> I thought it sucked. Not enough fanservice, no way to show how the Octopus-dude toy works and New York seems to be in perpetual gloom or late afternoon.
>
> Didn't see it, just speaking from seeing the posters on the side of Puny buses.
>
> You couldn't pay me to see this except I will probably get in line anyway because I'm sheep. Baaah. But if you DID offer to pay me to see it...aw, who am I kidding?
> ---------------------------------

Oh, c'mon, hasn't Sam Raimi earned this?

hamano
post #11  on June 30, 2004 - 12:55 PM PDT  
> On June 30, 2004 - 9:32 AM PDT Cinenaut wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Oh, c'mon, hasn't Sam Raimi earned this?
> ---------------------------------

He's a rich fat cat from producing the Hercules/Xena franchise. He earned THAT, but now he's coasting with the Spiderman movies... the first one anyway. It wasn't half as fun as Darkman. The air went right out of the first Spiderman film as soon as Peter Parker and the Willem Defoe characters donned their supersuits and became flying babbling cartoons. And all I wanted was to just walk around in the rain some more with the Kirsten Dunst character... I can't remember any of their names...
Cinenaut
post #12  on June 30, 2004 - 3:00 PM PDT  
So you're just going to pass on Alfred Molina with tentacles?
oldkingcole
post #13  on July 1, 2004 - 9:15 AM PDT  
I saw this movie last night and liked it a lot. I agree with hamano that the first half of Spider-Man 1 was better than its second half. But I still enjoyed the first one.

This is one is even better. Alfred Molina doesn't chew scenery as voraciously as Willem Defoe did in #1. And like what was good about the first movie, this one retains and ups the ante on heart, wit, and charm. Plus, there's more humor and it's actually funny.

An outstanding effort from all involved. I hope Raimi isn't burned out on Spider-Man yet, because I want to see him direct a few of these. I liked this one so much it has inspired me to read the original 1962 Stan Lee/Steve Ditko comics.
dh22
post #14  on July 1, 2004 - 9:58 AM PDT  
Ok, hamano, you have to go see it now. How can you argue with oldkingcole?
kohnfused1
post #15  on July 1, 2004 - 10:28 AM PDT  
> On July 1, 2004 - 9:58 AM PDT dh22 wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Ok, hamano, you have to go see it now. How can you argue with oldkingcole?
> ---------------------------------
Alright, I went to see it yesterday (first showing, bargain matinee), I thought it was better than the first, but then again, I'm just your average joe and not even come close to being a comic aficionado. My only gripe is that "he" exposed his identity to too many people. (Don't know if that's getting edited out, but I don't think it's going to be significant as a "spoiler".) Anyway, it worked for me. I noticed it tied up a lot of loose ends and obviously set itself up for a third installment. The question is, will there be enough backstory for that film. Maybe it's not such a bad thing, hopefully, it just means more action. I wonder if they'll put Venom, or maybe even Carnage in the next one...hmmm....
sinisterguffaw
post #16  on July 1, 2004 - 11:00 AM PDT  
> On July 1, 2004 - 10:28 AM PDT kohnfused1 wrote:
> ---------------------------------
I wonder if they'll put Venom, or maybe even Carnage in the next one...hmmm....
>
> ---------------------------------

That's what I'm hoping for. Venom is a very disturbed ccharacter, and they could do some pretty cool things with that symbiote suit (or whatever it is) if they do it right. I sure do like that Venom character. When they do a third movie--and they will--so long as it has venom and or carnage in it, I will be happy if they never make another spider-man movie again.
jross3
post #17  on July 1, 2004 - 12:38 PM PDT  
went to see it last night. Enjoyed it very much!

I think that Doc Oc is one of the cooler villians I've seen in a while. It just looks cool seeing those arms moving like they do. My only problem: Those arms look really heavy. Wouldn't he need to have two holding him up pretty much all the time? Even if it's a super-light-weight alloy, they're so big...

I'm still looking forward to the next one. (spoilers?) Didn't Venom start out as the astronaut guy, then move to Osbourne? If I'm remembering that right, all the necessary characters are already introduced....

Is it just me, or does it seem like all of the Spiderman villians have double poersonalities driving them crazy? The Goblin was a psychotic split personality, and Oc had the AI in the arms, and Venom was a parasite/symbiant or something (if I remember correctly, that is)... Sure, most villians are insane, but there's usually more variety.
Still, I do like these guys so far.
kohnfused1
post #18  on July 1, 2004 - 1:38 PM PDT  

> I'm still looking forward to the next one. (spoilers?) Didn't Venom start out as the astronaut guy, then move to Osbourne? If I'm remembering that right, all the necessary characters are already introduced....

I believe so, Jamison's son brought it back (inadvertently) from either the moon or mars. Their combining/merging didn't work out and the symbiote found a new host in Eddie Brock, an iron pumping photo-hack who just happens to work for the Daily Bugle. (there's a Peter Parker/Spiderman tie in there somewhere) I'm not sure, but I don't think Harry (Osbourne) ever came across Venom. Doesn't he become the "Hobgoblin" (but instead of green, his outfit is red).

Can some "comic" person confirm my facts before I embarass myself. Pleeeasee! (with sugar on top)

> Is it just me, or does it seem like all of the Spiderman villians have double poersonalities driving them crazy? The Goblin was a psychotic split personality, and Oc had the AI in the arms, and Venom was a parasite/symbiant or something (if I remember correctly, that is)... Sure, most villians are insane, but there's usually more variety.
> Still, I do like these guys so far.
> ---------------------------------

If you think about it, Spiderman himself is a split a personality. Actually, all superheroes are. By day, they're an average person just trying to cope with everyday life. During superhero hours; they're impervious to bills, office bureacracy, and traffic.
dh22
post #19  on July 1, 2004 - 1:51 PM PDT  
Harry didn't become Hobgoblin, he became Greengoblin. To make a long story short, he lost his ming like his dad and took up the persona of Greengoblin to take revenge on Spiderman for killing his dad. Hobgoblin was this other guy, Roderick Kingsley, who discovered the Greengoblin lair and used the know-how to make himself Hobgoblin. If I remember correctly, he was orange.
dh22
post #20  on July 1, 2004 - 1:56 PM PDT  
The great thing is the new Spiderman movies have been pretty good about staying true to the comic. Some of you may not have liked the second half of the first movie, but a lot of those things really happened. The cable car hanging from the bridge happened in the comics (except it wasnt Mary Jane.) The fight scene at the end, and the way Greengoblin was killed - all fairly true to the comic.
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