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Wallace & Gromit (some possible spoilers)
Topic by: IronS
Posted: October 9, 2005 - 10:11 PM PDT
Last Reply: February 13, 2006 - 1:20 PM PST

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author topic: Wallace & Gromit (some possible spoilers)
IronS
post #1  on October 9, 2005 - 10:11 PM PDT  
Okay, I'm a fan. I'm such a fan that I wore my W&G t-shirt to watch the movie. Despite my bf's misgivings, the film was pretty fun. Yes, most of the laughs came from the adults in the audience (as it should be; how many kids understood the Harvey reference?). The people (Wallace and the villagers) were as clueless as ever with Gromit and the rabbits being the smart ones. There was the flight scene like A Close Shave and a chase scene as well.

Some of the characters were really outstanding. Lady Tottington was a hoot (Helena Bonham Carter voiced her; she did a great job with Corpse Bride as well). The vicar was great. And Ralph Fiennes obviously had fun with Victor Quartermaine.

The short of the penguins was really fun, too. The animation had improved a lot since Madagascar.
IronS
post #2  on October 9, 2005 - 11:01 PM PDT  
By the way, Burger King is handling the Kids Meal toys for this movie. They're okay but KFC's W&G toys from years ago were better.
pooja
post #3  on October 10, 2005 - 6:51 AM PDT  
WARNING! SPOILERS!

ROTFL!!!
At one point, in her tower greenhouse, Lady Tottington stood right behind a pair of very ripe looking melons which were at chest level, as if she weren't busty enough!
The old book about the monsters in the Vicarage Library was written by an author named Claude Savagely!
At one point Wallace was dressed only in a cardboard box which was labeled with a sticker that said, "May contain nuts"!!

OK, these were really immature gags, but somehow, with this style of animation, they were really funny. Just watching those cute/demented-looking bunnies floating around in zero gravity was worth the price of admission...

The Madagascar short was pretty dumb, though. If you get there late and you miss it, it's no big deal!
shiori308
post #4  on October 10, 2005 - 10:46 AM PDT  
> On October 10, 2005 - 6:51 AM PDT pooja wrote:
> ---------------------------------

> The Madagascar short was pretty dumb, though. If you get there late and you miss it, it's no big deal!
> ---------------------------------

I really liked the short, I thought it was cute. Wallace and Gromit was great too. That kind of situation humor is something that I just love. There were quite a few of those subtle humor moments dealing with male and female anatomy. My nephew kept turning to me and yelling "What are you guys laughing at?!" And the whole audience would start laughing at my nephew. Kind of embarassing. And then when the rabbit caught Gromit before he crashed there was a moment when it got quiet on the screen and my nephew yells as loud as he can "Whew that was a nice catch!" And everyone starts laughing again. Cute but sometimes he yells the inappropriate like "Why does that guy have no hair on the top of his head?!"
Cinenaut
post #5  on October 10, 2005 - 10:49 AM PDT  
I was a bit disappointed with the movie. I felt like Wallace & Gromit were best suited for short films and that this feature had a bit too much padding. That said, there were definitely some hilarious moments (the change purse) and Gromit is an excellent actor.

I must have missed the Harvey reference! Where was it?



Sad news today:

Fire destroys 'Wallace and Gromit' warehouse
"Today was supposed to be a day of celebration, with the news that 'Wallace and Gromit' had gone in at No. 1 at the U.S. box office, but instead our whole history has been wiped out," Aardman spokesman Arthur Sheriff said. "It's turned out to be a terrible day."
shiori308
post #6  on October 10, 2005 - 11:25 AM PDT  
That is so awful! What horrible timing. I really like what he says in the article about it not being a big deal when you look at the earthquakes in Asia. Saying something so thoughtful makes me feel even worse about it.

artifex
post #7  on October 10, 2005 - 5:04 PM PDT  
> On October 10, 2005 - 10:46 AM PDT shiori308 wrote:
> I really liked the short, I thought it was cute. Wallace and Gromit was great too. That kind of situation humor is something that I just love. There were quite a few of those subtle humor moments dealing with male and female anatomy. My nephew kept turning to me and yelling "What are you guys laughing at?!" And the whole audience would start laughing at my nephew. Kind of embarassing. And then when the rabbit caught Gromit before he crashed there was a moment when it got quiet on the screen and my nephew yells as loud as he can "Whew that was a nice catch!" And everyone starts laughing again. Cute but sometimes he yells the inappropriate like "Why does that guy have no hair on the top of his head?!"

I think they should lend out kids at movie theaters for certain movies; sort of like a live laugh track to just kick things over the top. On the other hand, if I were a parent, I'd probably try to get my kid hired by a theater as a professional laugher, to get them out of my hair sometimes :)
ALittlefield
post #8  on October 11, 2005 - 2:01 PM PDT  
I am also a big W & G fan, and I certainly wasn't disappointed. There is a real lovable gentleness to the characters(they suck out the rabbit pests and then take them home and feed them!). I also really enjoyed the look of the title creature: it's able to be both cute and frightening.
That's a real shame about the warehouse fire; hopefully they can build new models of the characters (come on, they must have design manuals saved on a computer or something!.
pooja
post #9  on October 11, 2005 - 2:17 PM PDT  
> On October 11, 2005 - 2:01 PM PDT ALittlefield wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> I am also a big W & G fan, and I certainly wasn't disappointed. There is a real lovable gentleness to the characters(they suck out the rabbit pests and then take them home and feed them!).

My one criticism is that unless Gromit was giving them veggies mixed with contraceptive pills, the rabbits in the basement would have multiplied until they ran out of room... or did they segregate the male bunnies from the female ones? That was somewhat unrealistic...

> That's a real shame about the warehouse fire; hopefully they can build new models of the characters (come on, they must have design manuals saved on a computer or something!.

But lost forever is that full-body cast they made of Mel Gibson for Chicken Run modeling... Hey, W&G could have gone into partnership with Mrs. Tweedy and made Rabbit Pies....
IronS
post #10  on October 11, 2005 - 5:58 PM PDT  
> On October 10, 2005 - 10:49 AM PDT Cinenaut wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> I must have missed the Harvey reference! Where was it?
>

After the female bunny suit was knocked off the top of the van, the van stopped in front of a grocery store while Wallace went back to look for the bunny suit and Gromit waited in the van, knitting. The name of the grocery store, on a giant carrot-shaped sign, was Harvey's. The were-rabbit then took the sign off and dropped the sign (now with a bite taken out of it) on the hood of the van.

I wonder why Nick Park decided to give Lady Tottington and Victor Quartermaine lips. Wallace and Wendolyn didn't have lips and they were fine.

I must admit that I thought the were-rabbit wasn't as menacing as Preston or Mrs. Tweedy. Victor Quartermaine wasn't that bad either.
ALittlefield
post #11  on October 12, 2005 - 6:34 AM PDT  
> On October 11, 2005 - 2:17 PM PDT pooja wrote:

>
> My one criticism is that unless Gromit was giving them veggies mixed with contraceptive pills, the rabbits in the basement would have multiplied until they ran out of room... or did they segregate the male bunnies from the female ones? That was somewhat unrealistic...

Somewhat unrealistic? You can buy that a dog can drive a truck, but the bunnies not breeding is unrealistic? The vast majority of animation operates in what is called a flexible reality; this ability to do anything is part of what people like about animation.
pooja
post #12  on October 12, 2005 - 6:51 AM PDT  
> On October 12, 2005 - 6:34 AM PDT ALittlefield wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Somewhat unrealistic? You can buy that a dog can drive a truck, but the bunnies not breeding is unrealistic?

Hee hee, I GOTCHA Mr. Nosferatu! Was there ever a vampire with a well-developed sense of humor, other than The Count from Sesame Street? You guys are such a serious bunch... But you're okay if you're a fellow W&G fan...
;-)
pooja
post #13  on October 12, 2005 - 7:03 AM PDT  
> On October 11, 2005 - 5:58 PM PDT IronS wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> I wonder why Nick Park decided to give Lady Tottington and Victor Quartermaine lips. Wallace and Wendolyn didn't have lips and they were fine.

I think Park wanted to give them that veddy veddy English upper crusty horsey look, with the protruding overbite. Considering the materials at hand, that would be difficult to do well without a framing set of lips. Without lips it's much easier to do the sidestretched "thin lipped" or "no lipped" menacing look that Mrs. Tweedy had.

If you did the "overbite" thing without lips, the characters would probably have ended up looking like a 3D Homer Simpson (or at least one of those occasional "hillbilly" characters on that show).
IronS
post #14  on October 12, 2005 - 8:33 PM PDT  
> On October 12, 2005 - 7:03 AM PDT pooja wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> > On October 11, 2005 - 5:58 PM PDT IronS wrote:
> > ---------------------------------
> > I wonder why Nick Park decided to give Lady Tottington and Victor Quartermaine lips. Wallace and Wendolyn didn't have lips and they were fine.
>
> I think Park wanted to give them that veddy veddy English upper crusty horsey look, with the protruding overbite. Considering the materials at hand, that would be difficult to do well without a framing set of lips. Without lips it's much easier to do the sidestretched "thin lipped" or "no lipped" menacing look that Mrs. Tweedy had.
>
> If you did the "overbite" thing without lips, the characters would probably have ended up looking like a 3D Homer Simpson (or at least one of those occasional "hillbilly" characters on that show).
> ---------------------------------

Or look like the Vicar (making a cross with 2 cucumbers/zucchinis - gawd, that was priceless!).
woozy
post #15  on October 12, 2005 - 10:54 PM PDT  
> On October 10, 2005 - 6:51 AM PDT pooja wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> WARNING! SPOILERS!
>
And I repeat it.

WARNING! SPOILERS!

> ROTFL!!!
> At one point, in her tower greenhouse, Lady Tottington stood right behind a pair of very ripe looking melons which were at chest level, as if she weren't busty enough!

And she resembled a carrot and later an ear of corn.

> The old book about the monsters in the Vicarage Library was written by an author named Claude Savagely!

And the latin for the Loch Ness Monster was Touris Trapus.

> At one point Wallace was dressed only in a cardboard box which was labeled with a sticker that said, "May contain nuts"!!
>
And when he was stuck in hole, Grommet was carrying a tray of toast walking past a butter dish and a jar of "Middle Age Spread"

> Just watching those cute/demented-looking bunnies floating around in zero gravity was worth the price of admission...
>
Watching the bunnies thump their chests and howl at the moon was worth it too.

> After the female bunny suit was knocked off the top of the van, the van stopped in front of a grocery store while Wallace went back to look for the bunny suit and Gromit waited in the van, knitting. The name of the grocery store, on a giant carrot-shaped sign, was Harvey's. The were-rabbit then took the sign off and dropped the sign (now with a bite taken out of it) on the hood of the van.
>
A nod to Jurasic park. Well done too with the shot of the sign missing.

> I wonder why Nick Park decided to give Lady Tottington and Victor Quartermaine lips. Wallace and Wendolyn didn't have lips and they were fine.
>

I thought the characters were a little more garish and grotesque than in the gentle and subtle shorts. But, boy, if ever I had misgivings that came to naught... first shot of the framed picture of W&G with W having Bushy hair and I was non-stop laughing till the very end.

Heh, heh. Dogwarts University...

> Hee hee, I GOTCHA Mr. Nosferatu! Was there ever a vampire with a well-developed sense of humor, other than The Count from Sesame Street? You guys are such a serious bunch... But you're okay if you're a fellow W&G fan...
> ;-)


I beg you pardon! Our dear Miss Sonja Blue has one of the best developed senses of humor of anyone I know. It's the reason I love her so much.
Cinenaut
post #16  on October 13, 2005 - 10:35 AM PDT  
This movie made me want to eat more vegetables!

***POSSIBLE SPOILER***

Gromit's melon was a tragic figure.
pooja
post #17  on October 13, 2005 - 10:48 AM PDT  
> On October 12, 2005 - 10:54 PM PDT woozy wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> I beg you pardon! Our dear Miss Sonja Blue has one of the best developed senses of humor of anyone I know. It's the reason I love her so much.

Fair'nuff. When she puts you on HER friends list, so will I!
;-)
woozy
post #18  on October 13, 2005 - 1:01 PM PDT  
> Fair'nuff. When she puts you on HER friends list, so will I!
> ;-)
> ---------------------------------

*Sigh* what are you so afraid of...
woozy
post #19  on October 13, 2005 - 1:05 PM PDT  
> Fair'nuff. When she puts you on HER friends list, so will I!
> ;-)
> ---------------------------------


There was a time, she considered me a friend. I don't remember if she ever had a friends list though.

Somehow I doubt she'd oblige if I asked her nicely to put me on her list (her GC friends list, not her other list) for the sake of making pooja like me better.
pooja
post #20  on October 13, 2005 - 2:09 PM PDT  
> On October 13, 2005 - 1:01 PM PDT woozy wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> *Sigh* what are you so afraid of...
> ---------------------------------

Effeminate-looking yellow-haired men with small mouths who think I should be afraid of something, naturally! That's why I'm hiding behind my bangles all the time.
:-)
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