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Trailer Trash: I see darkness in your future....
Topic by: hamano
Posted: March 15, 2007 - 1:07 PM PDT
Last Reply: August 4, 2007 - 1:20 AM PDT

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hamano
post #1  on March 15, 2007 - 1:07 PM PDT  
Hi y'all. Welcome to Hamano's trailer park. Pull up a lawn chair and we can talk about some trailers playing at the theater or on quicktime or whatever. So many trailers nowadays are made better than the films they promote ain't they?

Today I saw a trailer for some film called Pathfinder. I thought it was going to be a Nissan commercial or a promo for some new Internet search engine or something, but it turned out to be for another mytho-historical action film. This one's gonna be about a Viking boy who is raised by Native Americans into a sensitive, caring, and kick ass warrior. Looks like he's gonna take on a whole shipload of Vikings by himself to defend the peaceful forest folk of Newfoundland. I don't know who the actor is, but he was like Tarzan in a land somewhere between Conan the Barbarian and Pocahontas. The Vikings didn't look like the ones from Thirteenth Warrior. More like extras who played the bad guys in Monty Python and the Holy Grail. Another film where black clad giants wear helmets to hide their faces... is this how the terrorist in his black balaclava has manifested himself in popular culture?
hamano
post #2  on March 15, 2007 - 1:16 PM PDT  
I also saw a trailer for Oceans Thirteen. Thirteen? Excuse me? I guess I snored right through Twelve.... Where were Oceans One through Ten anyway? I guess it doesn't matter... the Oceans films seem pretty much interchangeable.

There was a funny trailer about Will Ferrell being a figure skater, but I'm trying hard to forget some of the images from that one...

Anyone else see any good trailers?
artifex
post #3  on March 15, 2007 - 1:24 PM PDT  
Who puts "mimzy" in a title?
woozy
post #4  on March 15, 2007 - 2:28 PM PDT  
> On March 15, 2007 - 1:24 PM PDT artifex wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Who puts "mimzy" in a title?
> ---------------------------------

Am I the only one how is irked by the fact that "mimzy" is an adjective, not a noun?
underdog
post #5  on March 15, 2007 - 2:44 PM PDT  
It's funny how predictable trailers have become. When we saw Zodiac all the trailers were for - yes of course! - thrillers and serial killer movies. Oh and Mark Wahlberg's Shooter, which I suppose is a "thriller" too.

I haven't seen Reno 911 Miami yet (though I kind of want to) but I can predict all the trailers are for slapsticky comedies.

The best trailers are the ones that are all too rare these days, the ones that don't give away the entire movie beat by beat (which I swear all the ones I saw with Zodiac did*) but rather tease you with something enticing, and leave it at that. This is why I prefer trailers for movies that aren't even finished being made yet, because then they have to make them teasers. I enjoyed the Ratatouille trailer because it was short, sweet and funny. Made me want to see it. (I also saw the preview discussion for that one at Wonder-Con a couple weeks ago, with Brad Bird and Ratton, I mean, Patton Oswalt.) Looks really cute.

*This includes the trailer that must have made Hitchcock roll in his grave: Disturbia, a complete and utterly stupid looking rip off of Rear Window for the Nickelodeon set.

Is The Last Mimzy making Lewis Carroll roll in his grave, too? Probably not. This one at least has a decent pedigree.
woozy
post #6  on March 15, 2007 - 3:25 PM PDT  
Has anyone seen "Bridge to Terebithia"

I read the book thirty minus years ago and when I saw the trailer, I nearly gagged. The one sentence "little man" review on sfgate though, implied that maybe the movie was more "real" than the trailers implied.

The book is about rural (read redneck hick) boy and an urban (read hippie-dippie fish out of water) girl who are social outcasts. Inspired by Narnia they play games about a country they make up called Terebithia (which is actually a country in the Narnia books). These games are playing games. Do kids play games any more? You know, house, cops and robbers, make-believe? Do adults believe kids don't but they still do? Anyhow, the point is Terebithia isn't a real place. It's a place they make up and usually end up talking and drinking sodas on the other side of the creek.

It's a good book. The girl dies. The boy goes sulky. The adults get pissed off. etc.

Anyhow the trailer displays it that the make up the land. It becomes real. Then the have a huge fantasy adventure to save it. Yechh. Maybe the movie *isn't* like this and the scenes of Terebithia are like the kingdom since in "Heavenly Creatures" and not actually real, but the trailer certainly seems otherwise.

==
By the way twenty-minus years ago I saw a movie whose title translated was "The Pathfinder" or "The way finder" or "The guide through the snow". It was arty and never seen since. It was film in the far north of scandinavia and all clothing, housing, and tools as was the spoken language were recreated, and the actors were "ethnic". (A precursor to Apocolypto, I guess). It sounds like yours is a remake of the same. I was a bit put off because the villains were all of one phenotype (Grey haired, steel grey blue eyes, immense and muscular, "white skinned") and the peaceful villagers all small, soft dark skinned eyed and haired (except the boy who was dirty blond). Of course, historically it was one ethnic group (pre-cursors to the Finn's) I think invading another (indigenous Lapplanders I think), but it still bugged me. Oh, the invaders wore leather helmuts often covering the face with only grey eyes, steel beards and white teeth showing. The villagers were bareheaded or wearing small wool caps.
artifex
post #7  on March 15, 2007 - 6:28 PM PDT  
> On March 15, 2007 - 3:25 PM PDT woozy wrote:
> I read the book thirty minus years ago and when I saw the trailer, I nearly gagged. The one sentence "little man" review on sfgate though, implied that maybe the movie was more "real" than the trailers implied.

I think that was one of the first books I skipped and didn't read as a kid :)

> It's a good book. The girl dies. The boy goes sulky. The adults get pissed off. etc.

I heard they leave that part in. When I saw the trailer, like you, I was like, wtf? Of course, had I been 8 years old, I probably would have run to the library and read the book at that point :)

> By the way twenty-minus years ago I saw a movie whose title translated was "The Pathfinder" or "The way finder" or "The guide through the snow". It was arty and never seen since. It was film in the far north of scandinavia and all clothing, housing, and tools as was the spoken language were recreated, and the actors were "ethnic". (A precursor to Apocolypto, I guess). It sounds like yours is a remake of the same. I was a bit put off because the villains were all of one phenotype (Grey haired, steel grey blue eyes, immense and muscular, "white skinned") and the peaceful villagers all small, soft dark skinned eyed and haired (except the boy who was dirty blond). Of course, historically it was one ethnic group (pre-cursors to the Finn's) I think invading another (indigenous Lapplanders I think), but it still bugged me. Oh, the invaders wore leather helmuts often covering the face with only grey eyes, steel beards and white teeth showing. The villagers were bareheaded or wearing small wool caps.

Sounds interesting. It made me think of this movie for some reason. What was the original name, or the IMDB link?
woozy
post #8  on March 15, 2007 - 8:07 PM PDT  
> Sounds interesting. It made me think of this movie for some reason. What was the original name, or the IMDB link?
> ---------------------------------

I don't know. I haven't been able to find it on IMDB. I saw it in 1988 but I don't think it got released until years later. I thought it's name was something like "The Path Finder" but I can't find it in IMDB

underdog
post #9  on March 15, 2007 - 10:44 PM PDT  
> On March 15, 2007 - 8:07 PM PDT woozy wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> > Sounds interesting. It made me think of this movie for some reason. What was the original name, or the IMDB link?
> > ---------------------------------
>
> I don't know. I haven't been able to find it on IMDB. I saw it in 1988 but I don't think it got released until years later. I thought it's name was something like "The Path Finder" but I can't find it in IMDB
>
>
>
It is indeed called Pathfinder (or Veiviseren, or Ofelas, in its native language).

It's a really interesting film. Was nominated for a Foreign Language Oscar. Certainly the only film I've seen in the Saami (Lapp) language. Might be able to find a VHS copy around somewhere but it's definitely not out on DVD here, alas. Dunno why.
DLeonard
post #10  on March 15, 2007 - 10:52 PM PDT  
> On March 15, 2007 - 10:44 PM PDT underdog wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> > On March 15, 2007 - 8:07 PM PDT woozy wrote:
> > ---------------------------------
> >
> > I thought it's name was something like "The Path Finder" but I can't find it in IMDB
> >
> >
> It is indeed called Pathfinder (or Veiviseren, or Ofelas, in its native language).
>
> ---------------------------------


Yes, and not only is it also called Pathfinder but the upcoming release is a remake of that 1987 film.
woozy
post #11  on March 16, 2007 - 12:31 AM PDT  
> On March 15, 2007 - 10:52 PM PDT DLeonard wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> > On March 15, 2007 - 10:44 PM PDT underdog wrote:
> > ---------------------------------
> > > On March 15, 2007 - 8:07 PM PDT woozy wrote:
> > > ---------------------------------
> > >
> > > I thought it's name was something like "The Path Finder" but I can't find it in IMDB
> > >
> > >
> > It is indeed called Pathfinder (or Veiviseren, or Ofelas, in its native language).
> >
> > ---------------------------------
>
>
> Yes, and not only is it also called Pathfinder but the upcoming release is a remake of that 1987 film.
>
> ---------------------------------

Yup, that's the one. (It doesn't come up on a search in english). I haven't heard about the remake. Is it as ... flimsy as hamano describes. Rather misses the point if so I think.

woozy
post #12  on March 16, 2007 - 12:46 AM PDT  
> On March 16, 2007 - 12:31 AM PDT woozy wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Yup, that's the one. (It doesn't come up on a search in english). I haven't heard about the remake. Is it as ... flimsy as hamano describes. Rather misses the point if so I think.
>
Yes, it is.

Maybe this is the Robert Rodriguez effect. Out of nowhere comes a surprising well recieved film. Critics are wowed. Money flows in. Filmmaker is given big budget. Then it's discovered the film maker always had dreams to be a hack and now that he has the money he is, but we're all emnamored of the first film that we refuse to admit it until it becomes inescapable.
hamano
post #13  on March 16, 2007 - 3:23 AM PDT  
You know what? I vaguely remember seeing the previous Pathfinder... I'm not sure if the new one is a remake or just based on the same legend/folktale... Here's an interesting article.
Battie
post #14  on March 16, 2007 - 3:38 AM PDT  
> On March 15, 2007 - 1:07 PM PDT hamano wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Hi y'all. Welcome to Hamano's trailer park. Pull up a lawn chair and we can talk about some trailers playing at the theater or on quicktime or whatever. So many trailers nowadays are made better than the films they promote ain't they?
>
> Today I saw a trailer for some film called Pathfinder. I thought it was going to be a Nissan commercial or a promo for some new Internet search engine or something, but it turned out to be for another mytho-historical action film. This one's gonna be about a Viking boy who is raised by Native Americans into a sensitive, caring, and kick ass warrior. Looks like he's gonna take on a whole shipload of Vikings by himself to defend the peaceful forest folk of Newfoundland. I don't know who the actor is, but he was like Tarzan in a land somewhere between Conan the Barbarian and Pocahontas. The Vikings didn't look like the ones from Thirteenth Warrior. More like extras who played the bad guys in Monty Python and the Holy Grail. Another film where black clad giants wear helmets to hide their faces... is this how the terrorist in his black balaclava has manifested himself in popular culture?
> ---------------------------------

You should read some of the threads on that sucker. X)

And speaking of inane threads, check this out: unintentionally funniest thread I've ever read. I laughed for about twenty minutes. :D I'd stop reading at about the March posts, but the last post was funny if you caught the one it was commenting on.

Bad trailers...umm. I've seen some lately, surely. Oh, right! The Hills Have Eyes 2. More mutants raping pretty women. >_> You know, wasn't the first one a social/political statement? Now we get to see gore and rape for entertainment! (I'll debate seeing this, if a friend rents it. But chances are, I'll pass. I just don't have the stomach for it.)

Heh, reminds me of what a director (I forget who for some reason) said about the ratings system in This Film is Not Yet Rated. He spoke of sexuality often deserving an NC-17 rating, but rape and general abuse against women only rates an R.
hamano
post #15  on March 16, 2007 - 6:31 AM PDT  
Battie, "You are the biggest idiot that I have ever...honestly, how do you put you get out of bed in the morning? Do you have a rubber floor so you don't hurt youself? I mean, I've met some stupid people, but...Come on." That's pretty funny. I had to sign up with imdb to read it... How about a M-16 with an old-fashioned bayonet on it? A flamethrower might be good if you could fuel it with gasoline or kerosene or alcohol.
Cinenaut
post #16  on March 16, 2007 - 8:22 AM PDT  
The Last Mimzy is an adaptation of one of the favorite science fiction short stories of my youth. Mimsy Were the Borogroves by Lewis Padgett (a pseudonym of the husband and wife writing team of Henry Kuttner and Catherine L. Moore). It's about kids who find a box of toys from the future. I haven't read it in years, but the Lewis Carroll tie-in involves (**possible spoiler**) instructions encoded in Jabberwocky that lead to access to higher dimensions.(**end spoiler**)

"The Last Mimzy" is a terrible title, of course, and Woozy's right, it should be an adjective. I hope they didn't totally ruin the short story. It's so rare that classic science fiction gets adapted for the screen, and then it often turns out that the screenplay has little or nothing to do with the original material.
Battie
post #17  on March 16, 2007 - 8:51 AM PDT  
> On March 16, 2007 - 6:31 AM PDT hamano wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Battie, "You are the biggest idiot that I have ever...honestly, how do you put you get out of bed in the morning? Do you have a rubber floor so you don't hurt youself? I mean, I've met some stupid people, but...Come on." That's pretty funny. I had to sign up with imdb to read it... How about a M-16 with an old-fashioned bayonet on it? A flamethrower might be good if you could fuel it with gasoline or kerosene or alcohol.
> ---------------------------------

I just thought the utter seriousness of the first two dozen or more posts was freakin' hilarious.

And all of those are covered in Max Brooks' Zombie Survival Guide (which is funny about two days after you finish reading it).
woozy
post #18  on March 16, 2007 - 10:40 AM PDT  
> On March 16, 2007 - 3:23 AM PDT hamano wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> You know what? I vaguely remember seeing the previous Pathfinder... I'm not sure if the new one is a remake or just based on the same legend/folktale... Here's an interesting article.
> ---------------------------------

Well, it looks like theres enough variation. Set in North America with Native Americans and Vikings rather than Lappland with Sami and ... tjundra??? and the hero is a buff alien foundling (stuff of legends) rather than a kidnapped geeky local kid. Hero seems a warrior rather than a guy who knows some paths.

Has the same writer though.

> On March 16, 2007 - 6:31 AM PDT hamano wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Battie, "You are the biggest idiot that I have ever...honestly, how do you put you get out of bed in the morning? Do you have a rubber floor so you don't hurt youself? I mean, I've met some stupid people, but...Come on." That's pretty funny. I had to sign up with imdb to read it... How about a M-16 with an old-fashioned bayonet on it? A flamethrower might be good if you could fuel it with gasoline or kerosene or alcohol.
> ---------------------------------

Sigh. I've been avoiding signing up with IMDB but it might by worth it to see sweet Battie so abused.

How's the toe by the way?

> On March 16, 2007 - 8:22 AM PDT Cinenaut wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> The Last Mimzy is an adaptation of one of the favorite science fiction short stories of my youth. Mimsy Were the Borogroves by Lewis Padgett

I figured it probably was based on that story.

> I hope they didn't totally ruin the short story. It's so rare that classic science fiction gets adapted for the screen, and then it often turns out that the screenplay has little or nothing to do with the original material.
> ---------------------------------

I'd bet this is probably the case. As a short story the "meat" is weak. The "gyst" of the story was these toys used a completely different logic or thought processes and that children who weren't set in their ways of thinking were the only ones who could learn it. The upshot is the kids mastered it and disappeared. Not much cinematic hoo-hah there.

The commercials I've seen seem to have a story about the toys being sent by the last of a dying race as some sci-fi plot to save them. In the story, the person (or being) in the future who accidently sent the toys back in time is only mentioned in the first paragraph rather humorously as a failed time experment, and was only a plot device to explain where the toys came from (and that there were two sets; the second set went to Alice Liddell in 19th century England) and is never mentioned again.

Battie
post #19  on March 16, 2007 - 7:41 PM PDT  
> On March 16, 2007 - 10:40 AM PDT woozy wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Sigh. I've been avoiding signing up with IMDB but it might by worth it to see sweet Battie so abused.
>

LoL! He was abusing some other idiot. X)

> How's the toe by the way?
> ---------------------------------

Good, but showering sucks and I can't stand baths. It's going to heal crooked. <_<
woozy
post #20  on March 16, 2007 - 8:20 PM PDT  
> On March 16, 2007 - 7:41 PM PDT Battie wrote:
>
> LoL! He was abusing some other idiot. X)
>
Then I guess we'll just have to abuse you here.

>
> Good, but showering sucks and I can't stand baths. It's going to heal crooked. <_<<

Well, you can install a rubber floor, says woozy begining the abuse.
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