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Remy Almighty
Topic by: hamano
Posted: June 29, 2007 - 5:43 PM PDT
Last Reply: July 3, 2007 - 7:38 PM PDT

author topic: Remy Almighty
hamano
post #1  on June 29, 2007 - 5:43 PM PDT  
Just got back from Ratatouille... took Kboy, Mao-chan and 3 of her friends....

Oh, what a joy... that Brad Bird really is some kind of genius. It was curious how the mean food critic looked like Christopher Lee but was voiced by Peter O'Toole.

I'll definitely have to see this one again. Cars was sort of feh, but this one's a masterpiece.
artifex
post #2  on June 30, 2007 - 12:08 PM PDT  
> On June 29, 2007 - 5:43 PM PDT hamano wrote:
> I'll definitely have to see this one again. Cars was sort of feh, but this one's a masterpiece.
> ---------------------------------

I totally had written it off immediately, so thanks. I'll put it back on my list of possibles.
Cinenaut
post #3  on June 30, 2007 - 9:33 PM PDT  
Brad Bird is in a league of his own.

Ratatouille definitely would stand up to more than one viewing just for all the crazy subtle details. The animation is fantastic, it's got a fun, jazzy score and it makes you want to go to a good restaurant right afterwards.

Side note: Firefox's spell checker underlined "Ratatouille" in what I just wrote and the top suggested spelling was... "Bouillabaisse!" Heh heh. Even the spell checker is a food critic.

underdog
post #4  on July 2, 2007 - 4:13 PM PDT  
I loved this one, too, every minute of it - from the incredible details (you have to see it again just to look at the kitchen in more detail), the dialogue, Patton Oswalt as a rat, the set pieces, the foodie-ness of it all and Bird's gift for comic timing. I wonder, and maybe you can answer this better than I, Hamano, if it's almost more appealing to adults than it is to kids (though obviously, as with all Pixar works it's aimed to please both groups in different ways)...? I know that as much as I loved it, the bored kid behind me who kicked my chair through much of the midsection and even left a couple of times out of boredom (and thus missed part of the wonderful third act) may not be a fair indication of course. Some of the kids in the crowd loved it but as the film does get talky in a few places I noticed a few other kids get kinda bored. But it may depend on how sophisticated a child is, what kind of attention span they have, and so on.

There are certainly many astounding set pieces in the film that should hold anyone's attention. (Compare Remy's descent through the sewer system - going under and above water multiple times at a rapid clip - with the similar but more ho-hum version in Flushed Away, for instance.) All the characterizations (and voice actors) are terrific and the whole thing made me hungry.

I heard Brad Bird talk about how they used Thomas Keller as a consultant to get the ratatouille not only right, but appetizing, as that dish sometimes can look kinda gloppy. But in the film you really believe that it would transport someone, as it were. Wonderful stuff.
hamano
post #5  on July 3, 2007 - 6:15 AM PDT  
> On July 2, 2007 - 4:13 PM PDT underdog wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> I loved this one, too, every minute of it

You've got your "own" movie coming out soon too, don'cha? We saw a trailer for it. Looked like it'll be more fun than the Transformers movie....

> I wonder, and maybe you can answer this better than I, Hamano, if it's almost more appealing to adults than it is to kids... the bored kid behind me who kicked my chair through much of the midsection and even left a couple of times out of boredom

Even from an adult perspective the midsection seemed kinda s-l-o-w but the kids I took didn't seem to mind. Of course a bunch of 10 to 11 year old girls have their own way of getting each other through the slow parts (I heard a bit of chatter and giggling). So I wouldn't say "it's almost more appealing to adults"... I think a perceptive viewer of any age might have noticed the lag in energy, and the rest was exhilarating whether you were 11 or 46.

Perhaps kids on the West Coast are a bit more blase and snooty then us Baltimore suburbanites?

> I heard Brad Bird talk about how they used Thomas Keller as a consultant to get the ratatouille not only right, but appetizing, as that dish sometimes can look kinda gloppy. But in the film you really believe that it would transport someone, as it were. Wonderful stuff.

Personally I would have liked the film to be even MORE foody; as you know I love food-obsessed J-dramas and films like Tampopo or Babette's Feast. If this had been a Japanese film, there would have been something ABOUT Ego that would have led to Remy choosing Ratatouille, but this film played that like it was pure coincidence (or maybe there's an obscure stereotype that makes ratatouille Frances' chicken soup or apple pie?). But Ego's memory flash itself was done so well I didn't really mind.

I think some of the young audience enjoyed associations to FOX-TV's reality show Hell's Kitchen, minus the bleeped out expletives. That dangerous sous-chef DID resemble Gordon Ramsay quite a bit (although much quieter). Who knew Brad Garrett could do a French accent?
underdog
post #6  on July 3, 2007 - 11:49 AM PDT  
> On July 3, 2007 - 6:15 AM PDT hamano wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> > On July 2, 2007 - 4:13 PM PDT underdog wrote:
> > ---------------------------------
> > I loved this one, too, every minute of it
>
> You've got your "own" movie coming out soon too, don'cha? We saw a trailer for it. Looked like it'll be more fun than the Transformers movie....

Yah, although that's not saying much. ;-) We had to sit through the Underdog trailer twice, too, due to some glitch at the theater, so by the second time I was less excited. It looks a lot different than the cartoon, but maybe that's the right tact. The Simon Bar Sinister actor looks well cast though.

>
> Perhaps kids on the West Coast are a bit more blase and snooty then us Baltimore suburbanites?

That might be true, but again, it may have just been the ADD-stricken, snooty kid behind me as a lot of other kids in the crowd seemed to eat it up.
>
> > I heard Brad Bird talk about how they used Thomas Keller as a consultant to get the ratatouille not only right, but appetizing, as that dish sometimes can look kinda gloppy. But in the film you really believe that it would transport someone, as it were. Wonderful stuff.
>
> Personally I would have liked the film to be even MORE foody; as you know I love food-obsessed J-dramas and films like Tampopo or Babette's Feast. If this had been a Japanese film, there would have been something ABOUT Ego that would have led to Remy choosing Ratatouille, but this film played that like it was pure coincidence (or maybe there's an obscure stereotype that makes ratatouille Frances' chicken soup or apple pie?). But Ego's memory flash itself was done so well I didn't really mind.
>

It's funny because Bird, in an interview with Elvis Mitchell (on kcrw.org), said he was inspired by Miyazaki and the way he depicts food in his films. The characters really seem to get into their noodles and such, and the steam rises off the food, and it all looks so real and so good. So it's a hard act to follow but I think they picked the right person to be inspired by. I agree with you about the choice of ratatouille, it seems a little contrived - "I'm a rat so I'll cook ratatouille!" ?? But yeah, the pay off is so excellent it scarcely matters.

> I think some of the young audience enjoyed associations to FOX-TV's reality show Hell's Kitchen, minus the bleeped out expletives. That dangerous sous-chef DID resemble Gordon Ramsay quite a bit (although much quieter). Who knew Brad Garrett could do a French accent?
> ---------------------------------

I know, I was blown away! I didn't recognize him, or Janeane Garafolo for that matter!
hamano
post #7  on July 3, 2007 - 7:38 PM PDT  
> On July 3, 2007 - 11:49 AM PDT underdog wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> > Who knew Brad Garrett could do a French accent?
> > ---------------------------------
>
> I know, I was blown away! I didn't recognize him, or Janeane Garafolo for that matter!

They must've got a good accent coach to work with them. Or they just watched Pink Panther movies over and over again until they vomi sur le plancher.

I could tell it was Brad Garrett though... he's a regular on the PIXAR films.

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