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Iron Man
Topic by: IronS
Posted: May 5, 2008 - 4:05 PM PDT
Last Reply: May 13, 2010 - 3:57 PM PDT

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IronS
post #1  on May 5, 2008 - 4:05 PM PDT  
Okay, it was more fun than I thought it'd be. There, I said it.

Jeff Bridges was a really good villain. I had shivers down my spine. Robert Downey Jr. was pretty good, too.

Okay, what did talk about as I was leaving the theater? Goofs in the film.

First, my pet peeve - wrong word used: on one of the magazine covers about Tony Stark, it read "Takes Reigns at 21"! Reigns is so absolutely wrong! The word here is Reins as used to control a horse. Reign is mostly used as a verb or, as a noun, used in conjunction with of as in reign of terror or reigns of terror. Don't rely overly much on spellchecker, use a dictionary (or a dictionary site) once in a while. I can't believe someone let that by in a feature film!

A more esoteric goof: in the scene at the benefit, during which Tony was ordering martinis for himself and Pepper and speaking with the reporter, Christine, Tony had his college class ring on. Now, I had thought that Tony had graduated from MIT. If so, why was he wearing the ring the wrong way? The beaver faces a different direction once the wearer graduates.

For Jim Rhodes, his brass rat was clearly evident when he was on the phone with Tony while Tony was evading the 2 planes. Obviously, Jim was not married as he wore his brass rat on his left hand, but he did wear it correctly for a MIT alum. Perhaps he wore it on his left hand so that it would be in the shot as he held the phone with his left hand.

I don't recall any other scenes with the ring obviously present. I'll have to check when the film comes out on DVD.
IronS
post #2  on May 5, 2008 - 4:11 PM PDT  
The other movie I saw was "The Forbidden Kingdom" which was a lot of fun. Jackie Chan even got to tell the Buddhist overflowing cup story. I did keep on wanting to call Jason "Will Stronghold" (Michael Angarano's role in "Sky High"). And why weren't the Southies speaking with Boston accents? Still, all in all, I'd rather see "The Forbidden Kingdom" again over "Iron Man".
SirenTiger
post #3  on May 5, 2008 - 4:13 PM PDT  
> On May 5, 2008 - 4:05 PM PDT IronS wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> First, my pet peeve - wrong word used: on one of the magazine covers about Tony Stark, it read "Takes Reigns at 21"! Reigns is so absolutely wrong! The word here is Reins as used to control a horse. Reign is mostly used as a verb or, as a noun, used in conjunction with of as in reign of terror or reigns of terror. Don't rely overly much on spellchecker, use a dictionary (or a dictionary site) once in a while. I can't believe someone let that by in a feature film!
>
Could be worse. My uncle is now suffering the consequences of raising free-rein chickens. (They've taken control of the house and have driven my uncle and his family to hide in the storage shed; he's planning a raid to cut off the power supply to allow them oppurtunity to make an escape but chickens are pretty sharp-eyed.)

"Takes Reign" or "Begins Reign" or "Stark Reigns at 21!" would do as well.
IronS
post #4  on May 5, 2008 - 4:29 PM PDT  
> free-rein chickens.
>

Okay, so it's "free range" and in your case, the chickens weren't just allowed to run loose ("free rein"), but it seems they have instituted a avian reign of terror.

> "Takes Reign" or "Begins Reign" or "Stark Reigns at 21!" would do as well.
> ---------------------------------

No, just the latter two. "Takes Reign" is still wrong due to the inherent horseback riding analogy.
IronS
post #5  on May 5, 2008 - 4:35 PM PDT  
My other horseback riding word misuse pet peeve involves whoa. As we all know, "whoa" is something one say to a horse to mean "stop". Woah sounds more like the Chinese way of saying wow. Of course, sometimes "whoa" can mean "wow" as well. So, I do wonder what the writer means whenever I see "woah" (is it a misspellling of "whoa" or not?).
IronS
post #6  on May 5, 2008 - 4:36 PM PDT  
And didn't Tony and Yinsen work wonders without a clean room? Apparently sand is not an issue in a cave in Afghanistan.
SirenTiger
post #7  on May 5, 2008 - 4:45 PM PDT  
> On May 5, 2008 - 4:29 PM PDT IronS wrote:
> ---------------------------------

>
> No, just the latter two. "Takes Reign" is still wrong due to the inherent horseback riding analogy.
> ---------------------------------

Mmmm, not nescessarily. "Queen Victoria dies. Edward takes Reign". It has nothing whatsoever to do with horseback riding (which is, of course, the metaphor for such expressions as "take reins" "grabs the reins" "holds tight to the riens") but is akin to "take office" "take control" etc. A newspaper is unlikely to use the phrase "takes reign at 21" in reference to business news, in that a business isn't supposed to be a government and a CEO isn't supposed to "rule" over the employees. However, when speaking of large powerful businesses, the press frequently uses the metaphor of a "dynasty" or "kingdom" and my say something like "Henry Ford Jr. inherits father's reign" or "the Eisner reign over Disney was characterized by ..."

"Takes Reign" == "takes rule over" is possible although "Takes reins" == "takes control of" is more likely. "Takes Reigns" is just plain wrong (unless its a guy named Takes and he reigns...)

SirenTiger
post #8  on May 5, 2008 - 4:52 PM PDT  
> On May 5, 2008 - 4:35 PM PDT IronS wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> So, I do wonder what the writer means whenever I see "woah" (is it a misspellling of "whoa" or not?).
> ---------------------------------

I don't see it that often, but I've always assumed it was a misspelling of whoa.

My pet peeve, and I never heard anyone do this ten years ago but I hear it all the time now, is using "beg the question" to mean "raise the question".

Noting that many people are getting disks low in their clue raises the question why are there so many red status disks. It does not beg the question why are there so many red status disks. Noting that there are so many red status disks because there are so many disks with long waits begs the question.

MHeise
post #9  on May 5, 2008 - 5:01 PM PDT  
The movie rocked, Robert Downey Jr nailed it, the story was well put together and the cast was perfect considering it was a summer movie, Terrance Howard could have used some help though..he looked stiff the whole time.

My favorite Tony Stark Quote was when He said "I'm starving, where's my scotch" if they do make a sequel I hope they go into his alcohol addiction.
AstroAppa
post #10  on May 6, 2008 - 6:45 PM PDT  
anyone stay after the credits? awesome...
kaream
post #11  on May 6, 2008 - 7:07 PM PDT  
> On May 5, 2008 - 4:52 PM PDT SirenTiger wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> > On May 5, 2008 - 4:35 PM PDT IronS wrote:
> > ---------------------------------
> > So, I do wonder what the writer means whenever I see "woah" (is it a misspellling of "whoa" or not?).
> > ---------------------------------
>
> I don't see it that often, but I've always assumed it was a misspelling of whoa.
> ---------------------------------


An Australian friend insists that 'whoa' and 'woah' are in fact two different words, with differences in pronunciation so slight that I can't hear them. This friend uses 'whoa' only to mean 'stop', and 'woah' to indicate surprise.
kaream
post #12  on May 6, 2008 - 7:28 PM PDT  
> On May 5, 2008 - 4:52 PM PDT SirenTiger wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> My pet peeve, and I never heard anyone do this ten years ago but I hear it all the time now, is using "beg the question" to mean "raise the question".
>
> Noting that many people are getting disks low in their clue raises the question why are there so many red status disks. It does not beg the question why are there so many red status disks. Noting that there are so many red status disks because there are so many disks with long waits begs the question.
> ---------------------------------

wikipedia: 'Begging the question'

Alas, illiteracy rains. Reigns? Reins, is wot it does.


IronS, did you major in Equestrianism at MIT?
SirenTiger
post #13  on May 6, 2008 - 8:29 PM PDT  
> On May 6, 2008 - 7:28 PM PDT kaream wrote:
> ---------------------------------
>
> IronS, did you major in Equestrianism at MIT?
>

No, but she worked her way through college as a bareback rider for the circus. Well, that and an apprentice locksmith. Fascinating woman, that Iron One...

IronS
post #14  on May 6, 2008 - 9:04 PM PDT  
> On May 6, 2008 - 6:45 PM PDT AstroAppa wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> anyone stay after the credits? awesome...
> ---------------------------------

Oops, yes, by all means, stay after the credits! (especially if you are a Samuel L. Jackson fan)
SirenTiger
post #15  on May 6, 2008 - 9:11 PM PDT  
> On May 6, 2008 - 9:04 PM PDT IronS wrote:
>
> Oops, yes, by all means, stay after the credits! (especially if you are a Samuel L. Jackson fan)
> ---------------------------------

Does some-one yell "I'm sick of this @#&! Iron on this @#&! Man!" ?

Cinenaut
post #16  on May 9, 2008 - 9:56 PM PDT  
Tom Morello, the guitarist from Rage Against The Machine, played "Insurgent #5."

And little Peter Billingsley of A Christmas Story fame, played William? Who was William?
IronS
post #17  on May 9, 2008 - 10:20 PM PDT  
> On May 9, 2008 - 9:56 PM PDT Cinenaut wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> And little Peter Billingsley of A Christmas Story fame, played William? Who was William?
> ---------------------------------

My guess is the scientist who was chewed out by Obadiah (the one who didn't slip out the door during that scene).
IronS
post #18  on May 10, 2008 - 12:57 AM PDT  
> On May 6, 2008 - 7:28 PM PDT kaream wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> IronS, did you major in Equestrianism at MIT?
> ---------------------------------

Nah, I'm just one of the engineers of GreenCine, no matter how scary this may be. :)
SirenTiger
post #19  on May 10, 2008 - 2:07 AM PDT  
> On May 10, 2008 - 12:57 AM PDT IronS wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> > On May 6, 2008 - 7:28 PM PDT kaream wrote:
> > ---------------------------------
> > IronS, did you major in Equestrianism at MIT?
> > ---------------------------------
>
> Nah, I'm just one of the engineers of GreenCine, no matter how scary this may be. :)
> ---------------------------------

The librarian profession lost a jewel when you ... well, when you never even considered the option.

You know, female engineers may outnumber the male engineers on GC but male librarians outnumber the female librarians on GC as well. Odd, isn't that?

Cinenaut
post #20  on May 10, 2008 - 10:57 AM PDT  
The scientist would be my guess, too. Now that was a bad haircut.

> On May 9, 2008 - 10:20 PM PDT IronS wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> > On May 9, 2008 - 9:56 PM PDT Cinenaut wrote:
> > ---------------------------------
> > And little Peter Billingsley of A Christmas Story fame, played William? Who was William?
> > ---------------------------------
>
> My guess is the scientist who was chewed out by Obadiah (the one who didn't slip out the door during that scene).
> ---------------------------------

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