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New "Genres" interface
Topic by: Cinenaut
Posted: October 5, 2005 - 9:58 AM PDT
Last Reply: January 26, 2006 - 6:32 PM PST

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author topic: New "Genres" interface
Cinenaut
post #1  on October 5, 2005 - 9:58 AM PDT  
Well, what does everybody think? It's kind of cool for casual browsing. I wonder if even less people will find the discussion boards because they have to scroll down more? Or will they be scrolling anyway to see all the genres?

I've noticed one problem -- you can't drill down more than one level. For example, I can expand the Horror genre, but I can't get to "Italian Horror." I tried it with both Firefox and IE.

pooja
post #2  on October 5, 2005 - 10:12 AM PDT  
I think this is just a computer glitch, no? They're probably updating the masthead links section and miscoded something. I can't believe this inelegant layout is deliberate. Look at all those plus signs!
Gradalis
post #3  on October 5, 2005 - 10:22 AM PDT  
I can't believe this inelegant layout is deliberate.
Believe. In this case, "function" follows "form" (but it won't always be this way -- a more visually appealing version will surface eventually).

Meanwhile, as was noticed, the left-nav only allows for top-level genres and sub-genres. For tertiary genres (if/when they exist), you have to go through the sub-genre page.
Cinenaut
post #4  on October 5, 2005 - 10:27 AM PDT  
The plus signs are your friends, pooja!
pooja
post #5  on October 5, 2005 - 10:37 AM PDT  
> On October 5, 2005 - 10:27 AM PDT Cinenaut wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> The plus signs are your friends, pooja!
> ---------------------------------

They're not. I'm a Mac user, so I'd prefer a little triangle that either points right (closed) or down (open).

Apple would never release such an ugly product... GreenCine designers should watch some of these DVDs and learn a thing or two about how form and function should relate to each other! Maybe this is just a beta version, but why show something that's SO not ready for prime-time?
jross3
post #6  on October 5, 2005 - 10:39 AM PDT  
I'm not a really big fan - but I don't really use genre browsing very much.
Still, easy access to sub-genres is a "plus", ha ha.
(no, really, I do like that. It just doesn't look very pretty)
I think that a pop-out tree of menus would be better. the only example I can think of is at Tokyopop's site (the "books" and "video" menus). But does that require special plugins?
pooja
post #7  on October 5, 2005 - 10:43 AM PDT  
Also, if you're going to give "top level" status to Anime right under Animation, I demand the same for Bollywood, rather than it being stuck as a subgenre under Musicals!! They're two different things, I tell ya! It's a form of cultural expression that should be independent, like Anime and Martial Arts!!
pooja
post #8  on October 5, 2005 - 10:48 AM PDT  
Also, if you open the top level for some of the genres, a few of the second level genres show plus signs, which are non-functional. Animation (+ Studios), Anime (+Fantasy Anime) and Crime (+ Gangsters) for example... Ewwww.... I'm sorry but bad design really irks me.
Eoliano
post #9  on October 5, 2005 - 11:00 AM PDT  
> I demand the same for Bollywood, rather than it being stuck as a subgenre under Musicals!! They're two different things, I tell ya!

I agree pooja, so relax. Anyhow, shouldn't Bollywood musicals be a sub under India as well?
pooja
post #10  on October 5, 2005 - 11:44 AM PDT  
> On October 5, 2005 - 11:00 AM PDT Eoliano wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> I agree pooja, so relax. Anyhow, shouldn't Bollywood musicals be a sub under India as well?

What, along with Experimental/Avant-Garde and Short Films? Because if it was under India in Foreign it would be at an inaccessible third level, according to Gradalis.

Also I don't totally discount the possibility that Bollywood films will be made outside of India. Martial Arts films have evolved outside the China/Hong Kong geopolitical boundary, and Anime is being made outside of Japan (primarily in China and Korea). Deepa Mehta (Bollywood/Hollywood) is Canadian now, and Gurinder Chadha (Bride & Prejudice) was born in Kenya and is English. Some Bollywood films are being made completely abroad (Aankhen was made in South Africa) and there is greater interest among Western film makers (Baz Luhrmann, Moulin Rouge). By your reasoning, Uncle, Memoirs of a Geisha and The Last Samurai would have to be categorized under "Japan"... Today, when we say "Bollywood" we're not strictly speaking just of films made in Mumbai... I think we're talking about a new "top level" category.
dpowers
post #11  on October 5, 2005 - 11:49 AM PDT  
it seems like if there's going to be a browsing interface over there, navigation should move up to top of screen. no wait. i'd put the nav box above the genres and move the pop-up menus of recommendations to a horizontal layout at top right, just above the account info, starting with "greencine suggests."

also i'd like the "genres" heading itself to act as a hide/show toggle. maybe with a little gizmo next to it in hidden mode to invite showing.
dpowers
post #12  on October 5, 2005 - 11:53 AM PDT  
"India/Bollywood", then
dpowers
post #13  on October 5, 2005 - 11:56 AM PDT  
+ India & Bollywood
with singing
without singing
pooja
post #14  on October 5, 2005 - 12:14 PM PDT  
> On October 5, 2005 - 11:53 AM PDT dpowers wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> "India/Bollywood", then
> ---------------------------------

Oh, come on, DPowers! "Quest" and "Peplum" are their own top level categories, for Ganesha'sake!
Eoliano
post #15  on October 5, 2005 - 12:18 PM PDT  
 + India & Bollywood
with singing
without singing

with singing
without singing
without a doubt
Eoliano
post #16  on October 5, 2005 - 12:21 PM PDT  
> Oh, come on, DPowers! "Quest" and "Peplum" are their own top level categories, for Ganesha'sake!

And we'll need another for Baba Ganush!
lizzoqops
post #17  on October 5, 2005 - 12:33 PM PDT  
I honestly thought there was something wrong with my browser when I first saw it. It doesn't match the rest of the front page.

Maybe it should be under the other options (queue, request list, etc)? I don't know, it just looks weird.

Change is scary.
underdog
post #18  on October 5, 2005 - 12:39 PM PDT  
Change can be scary, change can also be your friend. I can't even count on my hands the number of changes we've previously made to the site that people made a similar brief uproar about at the time - yet likely don't remember what those concerns were now. But, still, thanks for the comments guys - as Jonathan said, we'll be eventually making a much more sweeping design change to the site. For now, this'll do.

Keep in mind that there are some great new genres here that a lot of people behind the green curtain worked long and hard on (and are still working long and hard on) - which better match both the way AMG categorizes films and the browsing tastes of our members. Too many films were buried under previous genre categorizations that should be a lot easier to find now.

No, it isn't perfect. But we hope you'll get used to it and enjoy what's good about it. At least, that is, until the whole site is revamped. ;-)

Thanks again.

C
artifex
post #19  on October 5, 2005 - 1:04 PM PDT  
Makes it a lot harder to get to the stuff we use daily, like discussion/new at GC.

Does the genre section really get the most use? Why else devote all that screen space, making people scroll down for other things, etc.? I'd really like to roll the Genre section back up like it was, out of the way.

I noticed we can now go to queue from the top right of the page, which means we don't have to scroll down in the new interface, but this means now we go left for some things, upper right for some things, and to the bottom of the page for others. This is very busy and non-intuitive.
Cinenaut
post #20  on October 5, 2005 - 1:25 PM PDT  
> On October 5, 2005 - 1:04 PM PDT artifex wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Makes it a lot harder to get to the stuff we use daily, like discussion/new at GC.
>
> Does the genre section really get the most use? Why else devote all that screen space, making people scroll down for other things, etc.? I'd really like to roll the Genre section back up like it was, out of the way.
[snip]
> ---------------------------------

Those are my main concerns, using the interface. I'm forced to scroll down to get to commonly used features. Having the extra "My Queue" link helps save scrolling.

Maybe this could be toggled in the user profile the same way "top list/recommendations" is? Or toggle an open/collapsed view?

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