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THE QUIBBLER: The Thread that Discusses the Truth about Harry Potter (SPOILERS!)
Topic by: hamano
Posted: April 19, 2004 - 11:02 AM PDT
Last Reply: July 31, 2009 - 9:50 PM PDT

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author topic: THE QUIBBLER: The Thread that Discusses the Truth about Harry Potter (SPOILERS!)
AFleming
post #61  on May 26, 2004 - 6:09 AM PDT  
> On May 24, 2004 - 12:23 AM PDT IronS wrote:
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> Got mine for that Sunday. Please let there be no squealing preteen girls sitting near me.
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Oh, sorry, that was me, teehee. I'll try and keep it down.
IronS
post #62  on May 26, 2004 - 3:02 PM PDT  
Egad, were you the one who squeaked "ooh, they're so cuuuteee!" about the Weasley twins during the last movie?
AFleming
post #63  on May 26, 2004 - 4:12 PM PDT  
> On May 26, 2004 - 3:02 PM PDT IronS wrote:
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> Egad, were you the one who squeaked "ooh, they're so cuuuteee!" about the Weasley twins during the last movie?
> ---------------------------------

Heh. Blushes Well, they are!
IronS
post #64  on May 26, 2004 - 9:02 PM PDT  
Okay. I did agree with another preteen squealer about Oliver Wood though. He is rather cute. (I guess I favor brunettes over redheads)
AFleming
post #65  on May 27, 2004 - 7:57 AM PDT  
> On May 26, 2004 - 9:02 PM PDT IronS wrote:
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> Okay. I did agree with another preteen squealer about Oliver Wood though. He is rather cute. (I guess I favor brunettes over redheads)
> ---------------------------------

Yeah, from the pics I've seen of the Weasley twins in RL, they are blonde. They look much cooler with red hair! Actually, I've always though the kid who plays Ron is the heart-throb of the show. From the previews, he's gotten even cuter, while puberty hasn't been all that kind to poor sasquach-proportioned Dan Radcliffe (Harry). Now if Mr. Rupert Grint would just stop making all those stupid faces....
AFleming
post #66  on May 27, 2004 - 8:00 AM PDT  
> On May 26, 2004 - 9:02 PM PDT IronS wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Okay. I did agree with another preteen squealer about Oliver Wood though. He is rather cute. (I guess I favor brunettes over redheads)
> ---------------------------------

I was the the one squealing over Legolas, though I think Orlando Bloom looks funny without the pretty blonde hair. There's just something about pointy ears... -sighs heartily-
IronS
post #67  on May 27, 2004 - 1:19 PM PDT  
Yeah, I agree that Orlando Bloom is so cute as a blond elf (even though I knew his natural hair color was a lot darker as evidenced by his eyebrows). My favorite bit is when Aragorn (Viggo) calls, "Legolas!" It sends shivers down my spine.

Rupert has to make those faces since he's the sidekick and not the main guy. I wonder if his voice has finally settled down for this movie.
hamano
post #68  on June 4, 2004 - 7:49 PM PDT  
WARNING! SPOILERS!!!! You shouldn't join this discussion unless you've read all the books published so far and seen all the movies. (At THIS time, 5 books, 3 movies).

Hey, am I the first one back? Well, did they just hype the PoA film to death? It's been getting pretty good critical reviews but I saw it today and I was rather disappointed... Mao-chan was SUPER disappointed! At 8 years of age, I guess she is exactly the audience Chris Columbus was targeting with the first two films. At this point she's read and reread all the Potter books, and she could enumerate EVERYTHING they left out that they should have left in the film version. I pointed out to her that if she had read the books before seeing the first 2 films she would probably have been disappointed with them, too. She could understand that rationale, but emotionally she wished that more of the book had got left in. Well, too bad for her.

To some extent, I even agreed with her... No one explained that Padfoot, Prongs, Moony and Wormtail were the nicknames of Black, Potter, Lupin and Pettigrew, which kinda left the whole Marauder's Map thing a bit disconnected from the last generation of rascally Hogswart students. Harry never realized in the film that the map once belonged to his dad, so when Lupin gave it back to him it was just an useful artifact rather than a sort of heirloom. Also, the Patronus charm was so wimpy! How can the book be more cinematic than the film? I thought we'd get to see the glowing stag gallop around the lake scattering the dementors with its mighty antlers. Instead, we're treated to a stag-shaped glow that turns into a lump of light which floats around a pond bumping into dementors... And aren't the dementors supposed to eerily GLIDE across that lake/pond? Instead they were flying around like the cicadas from the trees in our backyard (and looked much less dangerous than the bugs!).

The critics were right in that this is the best HP film so far, but that's really not saying much. Much has been made of the darker directorial vision of Alfonso Cuaron, but this is the Cuaron of A Little Princess. Well, I didn't think so highly of Y Tu Mama Tambien, either, so I guess I should have lowered my expectations a bit.

Too bad they couldn't have given the film to Guillermo Del Toro or Alejandro Amenábar or even Jean-Pierre Jeunet... Any of them could have done a better job with my favorite Harry Potter book.

I never thought I'd miss Richard Harris for Harry Potter movies, but now I do. His understated Dumbledore (RIP) was much better... and the roster of famous actors slumming it and mugging for Potter is just getting TOO crowded. NONE of them is doing the best acting of their rather illustrious careers, it's quite obvious. They're just putting in about 50% of what they can do, and then sitting back to bask in the glory of all the adoring children. Here we have no less than Gary Oldman, David Thewliss and Emma Thompson, and for what? They should have cast Richard E Grant as Sirius or Lupin... at least he's really good at mugging for the camera. Where the heck is Hugh Laurie when you REALLY need him?

I thought the best (and most original) part of the film was the running gag with the pretty little songbird getting WHOMPED in a cloud of feathers. That was pretty funny! And it was hilarious how the actor who plays Malfoy is now so tall he towers over Crabbe and Goyle.

Oh, and when Aunt Marge started to blow up, for a second I wanted to see her puke and then explode like Mr. Creosote in The Meaning of Life... too bad she just floated off.

Wait, and that was Julie Christie playing Madame Rosmerta???? The same Julie Christie from McCabe and Mrs. Miller, and Doctor Zhivago? I didn't even recognize her... Maybe she didn't want to be recognized...
hamano
post #69  on June 5, 2004 - 8:47 PM PDT  
Hey, didn't you all have advance tickets or something? Where did everyone disapparate to?
AFleming
post #70  on June 6, 2004 - 10:42 AM PDT  
> On June 5, 2004 - 8:47 PM PDT hamano wrote:
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> Hey, didn't you all have advance tickets or something? Where did everyone disapparate to?
> ---------------------------------

Sorry, I posted this on another thread.

I saw it on Friday. It was ok. I thought it tried to be funnier than it should have. Almost like Cauron was trying to make it a slap-stick comedy. Not to mention the break-neck speed at which events progressed. I thought audiences proved with the last 2 HP films that they were willing to watch long movies. But Cuaron made his short, even though the book was longer than the first two. He drew out some dumb comedy sequences and left out or down-played some of the really important and deeper ones. Plus the acting was poor in several scenes (even by the seasoned adult actors/tresses no less!). But I think what bothered me most was that Cuaron left out the stuff about Harry's memories about his parents. Seems like it could have been relatively simple to have thrown in a few flashback sequences instead of the perpetual face-sucking dementors and chest-thrown-out Harry (thank god he doesn't have boobs at least). But leaving that out made the film more of a children's action film rather than like the emotionally laden atmosphere of the book.

POA was my favorite book but I don't think the movie did it justice.

My husband was really irritated about the change in sets. That bothered me less than the reduction of the story to Hollywood action film standards. One thing I did really like was the overall "look" of the film. It was pretty.
AFleming
post #71  on June 6, 2004 - 10:56 AM PDT  
> On June 4, 2004 - 7:49 PM PDT hamano wrote:
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> WARNING! SPOILERS!!!!
>
All that stuff he wrote up there in his post, yeah...
> ---------------------------------

I totally agree, hamano! What annoyed me the most about this movie was that they left out all the stuff tying the happenings to Harry learning more about his parents! Hello! They didn't even mention that Harry's dementor was in the shape his father took as a ani-magi. So it's like his father is protecting him. Heck, I can't begin to account for all the really important stuff they left out of this film. Grrr.... Oh well, I knew it was going to disappoint my high expectations.

The most pleasure I got from this movie was getting to watch cute little boys run around on screen for 2 hours (I noticed there was definitely a 1/5 girl/boy ratio in the theater when I saw it, heehee). The kids look 20. When Dumbledore makes some comment about them only being 13, I almost chuckled. I'm pretty sure all of them would tower over me (course, I'm only 5'3" so MOST people are taller than me, even hamano!)
AFleming
post #72  on June 6, 2004 - 10:56 AM PDT  
Crap, you and your red font and me with no way to edit. Argh!
IronS
post #73  on June 6, 2004 - 1:22 PM PDT  
> On June 5, 2004 - 8:47 PM PDT hamano wrote:
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> Hey, didn't you all have advance tickets or something? Where did everyone disapparate to?
> ---------------------------------

I'm seeing it later today.
hamano
post #74  on June 6, 2004 - 1:43 PM PDT  
> On June 6, 2004 - 1:22 PM PDT IronS wrote:
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> I'm seeing it later today.
> ---------------------------------

OOPS! Sorry....
IronS, don't read the spoilers!
hamano
post #75  on June 6, 2004 - 1:58 PM PDT  
I think one problem with making films out of Harry Potter is that the kids change so much from film to film. Of course children grow up, but the books tell year-long stories, and there's only perhaps a summer's worth of the kid's experiences that we miss. It would have been better if the kids grew imperceptibly older (and wiser) like Hikaru does in Hikaru No Go. But the way they make these films, there's a whole year or two between films where the kids have grown up off-screen. Then each film rushes us through a whole year in the kids' lives where they don't "grow" at all. You'd think at least they'd need a haircut every "two months" or so. Instead each semester and each season feel like they're just a week long or something.

They should just keep a slow assembly line going for the Harry Potter films so that the actors "grow" at the same rate as the stories. This is another good case for my position that the franchise should have gone to Studio Ghibli or something like that, a high quality anime house.
IronS
post #76  on June 7, 2004 - 6:27 PM PDT  
Luky for me, no squealing preteen girls this time although there were three boys, about 10 years old, who talked through most of the movie (one kept on asking about the plot and characters, etc.).

I must say that Rupert Grint has gotten cuter for this one. Of course, he sits out most of the action and is befuddled by Hermione for the most part. The silly growth spurt prize goes to the poor boy playing Neville Longbottom (Matthew Lewis). He's now tall and slim. What the..? Sure, they still tried to make him clumsy and such, but too bad he doesn't really look the part anymore.
hamano
post #77  on June 7, 2004 - 6:35 PM PDT  
> On June 7, 2004 - 6:27 PM PDT IronS wrote:
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> The silly growth spurt prize goes to the poor boy playing Neville Longbottom (Matthew Lewis). He's now tall and slim. What the..? Sure, they still tried to make him clumsy and such, but too bad he doesn't really look the part anymore.

That's the same kid who played Neville before? You'd think if they can recast Dumbledore, they wouldn't be afraid to get different actors for Malfoy and Neville. Anyone who plays Malfoy gets that bleach job anyway, and there must be a hundred little tykes capable of playing Neville. What if Lewis is 6 feet tall by the time they get to Order of the Phoenix?
IronS
post #78  on June 7, 2004 - 7:10 PM PDT  
> On June 7, 2004 - 6:35 PM PDT hamano wrote:
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> What if Lewis is 6 feet tall by the time they get to Order of the Phoenix?
> ---------------------------------

Maybe he'll suffer as Brooke Shields did during the filming of The Blue Lagoon (poor Brooke had to act while standing in a hole in the sand next to the much shorter Christopher Atkins).

I heard somewhere that the actors had to sign 3-picture deals so perhaps there will be changes make for the next one.
AFleming
post #79  on June 8, 2004 - 3:58 PM PDT  
According to a recent study I read about in the BBC news (yeah, it's the only news I read cause US news just pisses me off) said that the average British male is 6'3". Though they look no where near 13 to me, the actors are actually really close to their characters' ages.

I think this was some coniving British plan to take over the NBA.
IronS
post #80  on June 8, 2004 - 7:32 PM PDT  
Height helps in volleyball, too. You think they'll be dominating the sport in Athens?
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