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What are you watching?
Topic by: sinisterguffaw
Posted: July 30, 2004 - 2:52 PM PDT
Last Reply: January 13, 2005 - 3:42 PM PST

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author topic: What are you watching?
hamano
post #101  on September 23, 2004 - 10:54 PM PDT  
> On September 23, 2004 - 9:50 PM PDT DBooher wrote:
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> No hanging head in shame due to anime watachage gakusei. Sensei no approve. Dame desu.

He doesn't know all he has to do is make a confession to the MegaDeus and he'll no longer have to feel ashamed of himself.
KPman1
post #102  on September 24, 2004 - 1:00 AM PDT  
Although visually stunning and remniscent of Noir, Madlax isn't as good. It's missing the great music and the frenetic pace of Noir's killing sprees.

The Madlax episode I saw didn't have English subtitles so the story is somewhat of a mystery. On the other hand, it made a hell of a lot sense than Dbooher's silly giberish. :P
AFleming
post #103  on September 24, 2004 - 5:17 AM PDT  
> On September 23, 2004 - 7:58 PM PDT KPman1 wrote:
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> > On September 23, 2004 - 7:40 PM PDT DBooher wrote:
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> > Your are the pickiest gakusei in the world. THE WORLD.
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>
> There's pickier. A lot of people hate anime and I'm probably not the only one who thinks most of the Japanese comedy is really lame.
>
> Anyway, I'm happy to take the title. I'm 30 years old and have no business watching cartoons in the first place. It's just that some of the action stuff is too cool...*hangs head in shame*
> ---------------------------------


Oh, I see, you're one of *those* people. The kind that can't stand to seem "childish". Watch yourself cause *those* kind of people are really BORING. You won't find many (any) on this web board. Besides that, you're in good company. Most of us here are OLD also. I just turned 29 on Sunday! What's more, me and DBoo are the youngin's here!


If you like something, like it. Who cares what other people think? Especially if it's something harmless like anime (now if you were into 12 yr old boys or torturing people, that might be a problem). I guess it all has to do with your outlook on life. Personally, I prefer to do what I enjoy and not let other people opinions color my own (I will always defend FMA!!! You poopyheaded nay-sayers can go to Heck! Heehee).

You can never be too old to have fun. "Cartoons" are fun.
KPman1
post #104  on September 24, 2004 - 9:24 AM PDT  
> On September 24, 2004 - 5:17 AM PDT AFleming wrote:
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(now if you were into 12 yr old boys or torturing people, that might be a problem).
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I'm not a pervert. The only 12 yr olds I'm into are girls.


DBooher
post #105  on September 24, 2004 - 10:05 AM PDT  
> On September 24, 2004 - 5:17 AM PDT AFleming wrote:
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( You poopyheaded nay-sayers can go to Heck!).

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!

That's classic. I'm writing that one down and putting it on a T-shirt.

Happy be-lated bbbb-dddaayyy Afleming!!!! May your days be filled with many walks of...anime....viewing...life...nope, no matter where that lines inserted it's still gibberish. ^_^

FMA is good Mr. K.(can I call u Mr. K?) It's not entirely the touchy-feel good anime that you think it is. But it does take a couple of episodes before it gets going good.

Okay Afleming I'ma finish Wolf's Rain! I'ma do it! But it's strange how dubbing can alter a story's backbone so very very much. Stupid lip-syncing.


AFleming
post #106  on September 24, 2004 - 11:39 AM PDT  
> On September 24, 2004 - 10:05 AM PDT DBooher wrote:
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> Okay Afleming I'ma finish Wolf's Rain! I'ma do it! But it's strange how dubbing can alter a story's backbone so very very much. Stupid lip-syncing.
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>
>
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It's the voice actors they got! Kiba is done by Vash the Stampede! I mean, come on! That voice makes Kiba sound too kind and concerned. Blah.
KPman1
post #107  on September 24, 2004 - 1:12 PM PDT  
Mr. K? How about KP?

The problem with FMA is that the only cheap way I can get it is by downloading it. I connect with dial up so it takes awhile. The only reason I'll bother downloading something if it's leagues above the other shows like Samurai Champloo or if I just want to check out a single episode of a show I haven't seen. Whatever FMA is, it's no Samurai Champloo.

I watch Inu Yasha once in a while, but I would never bother downloading that show either...
artifex
post #108  on September 24, 2004 - 4:20 PM PDT  
> On September 24, 2004 - 9:24 AM PDT KPman1 wrote:
> I'm not a pervert. The only 12 yr olds I'm into are girls.
> On September 24, 2004 - 1:12 PM PDT KPman1 wrote:
> Mr. K? How about KP?

Oh, dear.
Shaky
post #109  on September 24, 2004 - 11:34 PM PDT  
Hey, since we probably won't be watching the same things forever (unless some of us have some sort of obsessive compulsive disorder), this is a topic that can stay fresh indefinitely.

I'm now watching Hunter Hunter, and so far I like it, even if it isn't that unique. It revolves around a teenage boy who wants to become a licensed "Hunter" and must pass a bunch of tests to reach that goal. He's surrounded by an ensemble cast including all the regular types found in other similar shows. I'm struck with how much it resembles Naruto.

I just watched My Neighbors the Yamadas. If you didn't know it from the outset, you'd never guess at first glance that this was a Studio Ghibli film. The drawings are very simple (about like Ebichu), much different from anything else Ghibli has done. I suppose that's explained by the fact that it's based on a comic strip. However, it was written and directed by the "other" guy at Ghibli, Takahata, and has evidence of his storytelling style all over it. There's no real story, but it's more just collection of vignettes of this ordinary Japanese family. It reminded me of the storytelling style in both Only Yesterday and Pompoko (the film where tanuki attack people with their testicles). In a strange sort of twist, it also reminded me of the Miike film Happiness of the Katakuris, minus the dead bodies. Maybe it's the weird musical numbers.

I take Hamano's suggestions seriously (except for BAV), so I downloadd Mahou Shoujo Tai. I have mixed feelings about it. It has some interesting elements, but each episode is so short that it is always unsatisfying. It also seems as though they just gloss over a lot of glaring plot and character problems because of lack of time to develop them. It's generally unfulfilling, like getting involved in sex only to have your girlfriend's mom call a few minutes into it and leave a message that her car broke down, so your girlfriend tells you to finish quickly so she can go pick her up. It's not so bad if that happens once in a while, but knowing that's all you'll get next time also is something of a drag.

I'm in the process of downloading Gunslinger Girl, Outlanders, Phantom, Tokyo Underground and One. They're going to take a while, but I'll give my impressions once I've seen them.
Catullus
post #110  on September 25, 2004 - 2:05 AM PDT  
> On September 24, 2004 - 11:34 PM PDT Shaky wrote:
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It's generally unfulfilling, like getting involved in sex only to have your girlfriend's mom call a few minutes into it and leave a message that her car broke down, so your girlfriend tells you to finish quickly
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speed has never been a problem for me XD
hamano
post #111  on September 25, 2004 - 8:49 AM PDT  
> On September 24, 2004 - 11:34 PM PDT Shaky wrote:
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> I just watched My Neighbors the Yamadas. If you didn't know it from the outset, you'd never guess at first glance that this was a Studio Ghibli film. The drawings are very simple

This was an independent comic strip long before it caught the attention of the Ghibli people, so the character designs and the "look" of the show are truer to the strip. If you liked Yamadas and Oishinbo, give Atashinchi a try. It's really funny, but it might be really hard to find active torrents for it...

> I take Hamano's suggestions seriously (except for BAV), so I downloadd Mahou Shoujo Tai. I have mixed feelings about it. It has some interesting elements, but each episode is so short that it is always unsatisfying. It also seems as though they just gloss over a lot of glaring plot and character problems because of lack of time to develop them.

Hmmm... I have kids and I'm still a kid at heart, and I think this is one major point of aesthetic preference where I differ from growed up MEN like Shaky and KewPeeMAN. I think what you call "glaring plot and character problems" is actually straightforward and simple storytelling that is appropriate to the show. Also, MSTA should really be only compared to other short format anime shows, and to me it's clearly superior to Kurogane Communications or Mini-Goddesses and certainly Mao-chan, although I like these other shows to varying degrees also.

The story is simple, yes. The characters are pretty one-dimensional (but well acted), yes. The script is minimalist but well-written. For me those factors DON'T detract from the truly awesome production design. It's beautiful, and since this is anime sometimes that's all I need. Visually MSTA is as rich as Paranoia Agent (I'm getting a bit bogged down in the current episode I'm watching where the detectives get caught up inside Shounen Bat's fantasy world the way the documentary crew did in Millennium Actress) and the imagery isn't compromised by an overly complicated story.

I own SoulTaker, too, and the only reason I have that is because of the production design... awesome...
Shaky
post #112  on September 25, 2004 - 1:27 PM PDT  
> On September 25, 2004 - 8:49 AM PDT hamano wrote:
> If you liked Yamadas and Oishinbo, give Atashinchi a try. It's really funny, but it might be really hard to find active torrents for it...


I tried to download it a while back through Bittorrent, when Animesuki showed it with active seeds, but it wouldn't come through. Now Animesuki doesn't show any seeds at all. One of these days, when I have my own broadband connection on my desktop machine, I'll see if I can get it via MIRC. Right now, however, I'm relying on my laptop on the T1 line at Starbucks, so it wouldn't make much sense to get into a queue on IRC and have to stay in the store for twelve hours awaiting my turn.

> Hmmm... I have kids and I'm still a kid at heart, and I think this is one major point of aesthetic preference where I differ from growed up MEN like Shaky and KewPeeMAN. I think what you call "glaring plot and character problems" is actually straightforward and simple storytelling that is appropriate to the show.

I take offense to being called a grownup.

I think the show is very pretty to look at. I also think it has an interesting premise, which they seem to be attempting to explore in a fairly entertaining way. I agree with you that the characters are interesting and well-acted.

The problem is simply duration and the tendency to rush through or gloss over plot points and character development. It's as if the whole show has ADHD and can't pay attention to itself long enough to achieve any depth at all. It also seems to forget from one moment to the next whether characters are angry or happy, feuding with each other or getting along famously, and character transformations that take several episodes in most shows happen inexplicably in a matter of minutes in this one.

That's fine if you're just throwing vignettes at an audience. The aforementioned Yamadas could have easily been divided up into this kind of short series format. But these people are apparently attempting to tell a story, and jumping ahead like this without doing the required legwork almost makes it confusing.

Visually MSTA is as rich as Paranoia Agent (I'm getting a bit bogged down in the current episode I'm watching where the detectives get caught up inside Shounen Bat's fantasy world the way the documentary crew did in Millennium Actress) and the imagery isn't compromised by an overly complicated story.

I hope you'll share your impressions of Paranoia Agent. I would be curious to read your opinion.
hamano
post #113  on September 25, 2004 - 7:27 PM PDT  
> On September 25, 2004 - 1:27 PM PDT Shaky wrote:
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> I think the show is very pretty to look at. I also think it has an interesting premise, which they seem to be attempting to explore in a fairly entertaining way. I agree with you that the characters are interesting and well-acted.
> The problem is simply duration and the tendency to rush through or gloss over plot points and character development.

There IS a tendency to rush things along, understandable because of the short format... I guess I forgive that because I have a tendency to get carried along on sheer visual oomph sometimes... how else to explain my continuing to watch Last Exile and buying the whole SoulTaker series? But I believe MSTA has soul where it counts...

I love the character design for Ateria (the one on the right end of this picture), the powerful blonde adult witch. A throwback to Snow White era Disney designs, I believe... very cool.
karmachick
post #114  on September 28, 2004 - 3:20 PM PDT  
I've been reading you...but I've never joined in... until now. So, hello.

I've tried to check out some of the anime that you posters discuss but sometimes I just end up scratching my head.

We've been watching anime for about 1 year now and WOW we LOVE it!!! It seems there is nothing we like better than to crack open a bottle of sake or a cold beer and watch. We've seen a lot in the last year but I could use some advice on what to put in the queue next. Obviously some of the longer series on the list we're still watching or waiting for release but you can see what we like and dislike, so help us out.

Bebop (the best ever)
Samurai X - OVA (beautiful)
Rorouni Kenshin (whomever has it, come on cough up disc 8 please, I've been waiting 6 weeks)
Inu Yasha (a must)
Texhnolize (cold but cool)
Please Teacher! (loved it)
Neon Genesis Evangelion (whatever?!?, I'll just keep watching)
GTO (lol)
FLCL (eyes wide open lol)
Abenobashi
Saikano (very cool)
Wolfs Rain
Robin Witch Hunter
Tenchi Muyo (sorry guys HATED it after 2 shows)
Berserk (wow just wow)
Samurai Demon Kyo (yep)
Goldenboy (hehe, can you say "silly")
Ceres
Arjuna
Crest of the Stars
.hack//sign
Najica Blitz Tatics
Legend of Himiko
Twelve Kingdoms
El Hazard
Reign (Ugh! when will it end)
Lupin (old school) our shokuni who has burned us every Miyazaki DVD loves it, so we gave it a try, about 20+ shows worth.

I'm sure in my list I've missed a series or two... oh and lots of anime movies. Now that I look at the list, I'd better get out on the 'busa more. No really, we don't watch TV any more just the hurricane channel and anime.
Learning Japanese has been a lot of fun (still working on it) and anime is a great excuse!

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
AFleming
post #115  on September 28, 2004 - 3:50 PM PDT  
> On September 28, 2004 - 3:20 PM PDT karmachick wrote:
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No really, we don't watch TV any more just the hurricane channel and anime.
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Oh, so you live in Florida also? Welcome neighbor!

I noticed you don't have Fruit's Basket up there. That's a must watch for any anime fan. I know the title is daunting and probably the summary too, but it really is much better than it sounds! Leave it to those creative Japanese anime writers (or manga writers as the case may be) to make such a crazy plot into a deep, philosophical and just plan fun anime!

You'd probably like RahXephon. It's got beautiful animation, a very complicated yet understandable plot, great music, etc. It's a shounen anime with a romance as the central character motivation. Good for both you and your significant other.

Also, you might try Trigun. You have to give it a little while, the story picks up later in the series, but when it does, it's great. Until the story picks up, it's still a really funny show.

Also, if you like drama, fighting, and beautiful animation all together, you might try X- the series.
hamano
post #116  on September 28, 2004 - 4:18 PM PDT  
> On September 28, 2004 - 3:20 PM PDT karmachick wrote:
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> I've been reading you...but I've never joined in... until now. So, hello.

karmachick, welcome to the surface! You should get together with AFleming and practice Japanese... hmm... I thought there was one more anime fan down in Florida but I can't remember who...

> I've tried to check out some of the anime that you posters discuss but sometimes I just end up scratching my head.

Oh, you should try a shampoo that doesn't dry out your scalp... Samurai Shamploo works pretty well for me...

> Bebop (the best ever)

Seriously, if you enjoyed Cowboy Bebop, you'd probably really like Samurai Champloo when it comes out on DVD, especially if you also like Kenshin. It's an Edo period samurai show but it's got a hip hop inflected jazzy score, and it's got both humor and nice action.

> Obviously some of the longer series on the list we're still watching or waiting for release but you can see what we like and dislike, so help us out.

I posted this before for Bowwow, but these older threads might help you, too.
And I'm sure people will look at your list and chime in with some custom suggestions! Have you been watching Initial D? Don't miss it! My suggestion is to queue it up so you get Vol. 1 and Vol. 2 together, if you can! Otherwise, the end of Vol. 1 will KILL you!

> On September 23, 2004 - 5:14 PM PDT hamano wrote:
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> Here are other threads where GreenCine otaku made recommendations, or mused about how they discovered anime...
>
> Top 10 lists!
> How did you get hooked?
> Favorite Non-Series Anime?
> Anime introductions
> What's your favorite?
> Anime Tear Jerkers
> Addictive Anime 2003
> Must See for Spring 2004
> Convert Woozy!
> It's Anime Recommendation Time Again
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karmachick
post #117  on September 28, 2004 - 4:27 PM PDT  

> Oh, so you live in Florida also? Welcome neighbor!

Oh yeah, just a load of rainy, windy, chainsaw fun. BTW I didn't realize SLC was in the 'hood! Guess you haven't updated your profile to say you live in the Plywood state.
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> I noticed you don't have Fruit's Basket up there. Leave it to those creative Japanese anime writers (or manga writers as the case may be) to make such a crazy plot into a deep, philosophical and just plan fun anime!

Its in the queue... those crazy, um, I mean creative, Japanese. I'm looking forward to it.
_________
> You'd probably like RahXephon. It's got beautiful animation, a very complicated yet understandable plot, great music, etc.

My husband and I aren't into mecha very much. I don't consider Texhnolize, Lain or Saikano mecha though, there must be another term for that kind of stuff.
_________

> Also, you might try Trigun.

Oops! Seen that. Liked every show except for the ones with the big headed freaks and the 2 parters.
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> Also, if you like drama, fighting, and beautiful animation all together, you might try X- the series.

Three times we put that in the machine only to say after 10 minutes "what else we got?" I don't know why, we just couldn't get into it. I'm not sure if it was the series or the movie though.

Have you ever gone to Orlando for the free anime midnight movie at Universal? If so, whats the average age?


Shaky
post #118  on September 28, 2004 - 4:31 PM PDT  
Continuing with "What are you watching?"...

I downloaded and watched the first two episodes of the Phantom OAV and liked what I saw. It's an assassin story, similar in some ways to Kite but not quite as vulgar. It's about a young man (teenager?) who travels from Japan to Los Angeles and gets mixed up with a young female assassin who ends up training him to kill people against his will for the generic syndicate that's always causing problems for everybody in this type of anime. The story is bare-bones; they get right into it and don't spend much time on fleshing out the main character before he's tossed right into his situation.

The art is okay, but I noticed some artifacts (like jagged edges) in the video that seem to indicate that it's all computerized. The defects are not bad enough to detract from it, and the story looks like it might go in a fairly entertaining direction. At least the action sequences are good, with lots of bullets and some pretty good moves to draw you in.

I also watched One, another OAV. It was interesting to some extent, but it moves very, very slowly and it isn't easy to stay with it. The essence of the story is that there's this guy who has made a bunch of promises to a bunch of girls, but everyone keeps forgetting about each other. So the guy will show up to see one of the girls, and she won't remember him, or one of the girls will remember him and go looking for him, but he won't remember her. Everyone's memory is cloudy and confused, just like the plot (which seems intentional). On the other hand, it's very pretty and has some really nice images that make good jumping off points for the imagination. I wouldn't necessarily recommend it, though, unless you need something to battle your insomnia.

Also, DAMMIT! Here I was griping about Madlax being boring, and episode 25 came along and recaptured my interest. I'm not sure it quite redeems some of the previous episodes, but it did move in a more interesting direction. But then the announcement is made that Madlax is licensed, so no more torrents! Just one more episode to go! Crap! I can't believe I waded through that much muck only to be frustrated at the final moment!
karmachick
post #119  on September 28, 2004 - 4:40 PM PDT  
> karmachick, welcome to the surface!

Domo.
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> Seriously, if you enjoyed Cowboy Bebop, you'd probably really like Samurai Champloo when it comes out on DVD.

I'll keep my eyes out for it.
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> Have you been watching Initial D? Don't miss it! My suggestion is to queue it up so you get Vol. 1 and Vol. 2 together, if you can! Otherwise, the end of Vol. 1 will KILL you!

Oh and it has a green bar, yeah!

Thanks for the links I'll check em out.


hamano
post #120  on September 28, 2004 - 4:50 PM PDT  
OMG, AFleming... you've been confused with SinnyG! My heart goes out to you!

> > You'd probably like RahXephon. It's got beautiful animation, a very complicated yet understandable plot, great music, etc.
> My husband and I aren't into mecha very much.

Hmmm.... RahXephon isn't mecha like Gundam is mecha. The "technology" behind the RahXephon and the dolems is pretty wishy washy from an engineering point of view. It's more mystic than mechanical... Did you like Escaflowne? That's another "mecha" show that isn't very mecha. I'd recommend both of these (RahXephon and Escaflowne) if you haven't seen them. You could almost rent them just for the music! The music for Escaflowne was composed by Yoko Kanno, who did the score for Cowboy Bebop.

Unlike AFleming, who has a thing for Ayato (the protagonist of RahXephon, not Puss'n'Boots!) I'd put Escaflowne near the top of my list and RX a little lower. If you didn't like the Escaflowne Movie, I gotta tell you, I didn't like it either... but the TV show rocks!

> Three times we put that in the machine only to say after 10 minutes "what else we got?" I don't know why, we just couldn't get into it. I'm not sure if it was the series or the movie though.

Your list didn't have a lot of shoujo stuff...(Ceres, but it's not near the top) Fruits Basket is one of my all time favorites BUT it's heavy on romance and drama (although it IS also very funny). That was also why I'm hesitating to recommend Revolutionary Girl Utena, which is on my top 10 list but based on your list I'm not sure you'd like it...
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