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War of Worlds or Land of the Dead?
Topic by: Battie
Posted: June 27, 2005 - 12:13 AM PDT
Last Reply: July 8, 2005 - 8:41 AM PDT

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author topic: War of Worlds or Land of the Dead?
Battie
post #21  on July 1, 2005 - 11:16 PM PDT  
> On July 1, 2005 - 5:13 PM PDT ahogue wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Hm. It's not that I think Stephanie Zacharek is a bad critic, but I think she does have a tendency to stretch things a little in order to make an intellectual point. This is pretty common in more highbrow reviewers.
>
> Of course, not having seen the film, I have no real opinion on this yet, but it just sounds suspect to me. ;)
> ---------------------------------

Heh, yeah I thought it was slightly over-the-top. She had a few points, but just because she and others noticed them, doesn't necessarily mean SS had the same thoughts when making them. But, it's also possible he did (but I kind of like to think most people would be smarter than that...).

It's a pretty good film. Just wish Cruise wasn't in it. >_> Adrien Brody would've made the finer choice, among others.

Of course, I just finished seeing The Jacket...so I'm in love. ^_^ He's soooo...*drool*
originaldiva
post #22  on July 2, 2005 - 9:27 PM PDT  
I went and read that Salon.com review. God, she is so freakin' self-important. This is why I don't read Salon that much. Half the time it's more about "look at me and how smart I am!"

Leave your brain at home and just EXPERIENCE War of the Worlds. It was good and scary and had creepy aliens in it. That's all you need to know.
Cinenaut
post #23  on July 4, 2005 - 10:15 AM PDT  
I don't know that I'd call Stephanie Zacharek "high brow," but anyway, I agree her review was over the top and I did enjoy War of the Worlds. That said, I think Steven Spielberg did use some 9/11 imagery and it did bug me a little, or at least made me think about how images from horrific real-life events can be absorbed into popular culture. If movies are the dreams and nightmares of popular culture, it makes sense.
DLeonard
post #24  on July 4, 2005 - 1:31 PM PDT  
> On June 29, 2005 - 2:45 PM PDT Xtian66 wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Land of the Dead turned a really boring and hot Sunday into a mildly thrilling and slightly mirthful afternoon...I can't decide if the armored truck thing was supposed to be remniscent of "Damnation Alley," or if Romero was thumbing his nose at the armored shuttle busses in the remake of Dawn.
> ---------------------------------

I remember reading about the "Dead Reckoning" years ago when Romero was trying to get this project off the ground, so I imagine the Dawn of the Dead remake people ripped off Romero but got their movie out first.

I found the subtext of Land of the Dead great and would have liked to see more of it. Romero's films seem to work better when he uses a small community to represent the larger. Four characters in Dawn of the Dead. The new movie has somewhere close to 10 main characters. He was working on a much larger scale this time and it maybe didn't work as well. But a very good addition to the zombie series.

Can someone confirm that this was 1st Romero zombie movie in which the word "zombie" is actually used (Dennis Hopper says it)?
ahogue
post #25  on July 6, 2005 - 11:41 AM PDT  
> On July 4, 2005 - 10:15 AM PDT Cinenaut wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> I don't know that I'd call Stephanie Zacharek "high brow," but anyway, I agree her review was over the top and I did enjoy War of the Worlds. That said, I think Steven Spielberg did use some 9/11 imagery and it did bug me a little, or at least made me think about how images from horrific real-life events can be absorbed into popular culture. If movies are the dreams and nightmares of popular culture, it makes sense.
> ---------------------------------

Okay, saw the movie, read the review. If, nowadays, someone made a disaster movie which did not absorb some of 9/11 it would probably be an awful film. It would not be doing its job, so to speak. Her freak out over this is ridiculous.

I thought the movie was not bad. Many of the other points SZ tries to score are more or less right but she needs to lay off the double espressos. Spielberg is annoying and she's right he has fallen into the habit of taking a condenscending stance toward his audience, but she doesn't need to tear him to pieces. It's rather embarrassing.
Cinenaut
post #26  on July 7, 2005 - 10:01 AM PDT  
Should we do Dark Water vs. Fantastic Four this weekend?
DLeonard
post #27  on July 7, 2005 - 2:11 PM PDT  
> On July 7, 2005 - 10:01 AM PDT Cinenaut wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Should we do Dark Water vs. Fantastic Four this weekend?
> ---------------------------------

Is that really a contest?
Fan Four looks like crap.
Dark Water has Jennifer Connelly who, besides being very attractive, is a good actress. A great supporting cast and it's directed by Walter Salles.

Plus I'm getting sick of seeing everything from Yahoo to my phone bill having crossover promotions for Fan 4. If I have to see that lame-o dad flying around like the Human Torch one more time, I don't know what I'll do.
Battie
post #28  on July 7, 2005 - 5:06 PM PDT  
> On July 7, 2005 - 2:11 PM PDT DLeonard wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Is that really a contest?
> Fan Four looks like crap.
> Dark Water has Jennifer Connelly who, besides being very attractive, is a good actress. A great supporting cast and it's directed by Walter Salles.
>
> Plus I'm getting sick of seeing everything from Yahoo to my phone bill having crossover promotions for Fan 4. If I have to see that lame-o dad flying around like the Human Torch one more time, I don't know what I'll do.
> ---------------------------------

Yes, it does look lame. But I noticed the new trailer on TV shows Jessica Alba almost-nude. Several times.

Clever.

Dark Water...blech. I'm sick of these damn American remakes of Japanese horror. Sorry to say this...but I think Japanese horror isn't good to begin with, but what it DOES have, the American remakes lack. Humph.
Cinenaut
post #29  on July 8, 2005 - 8:41 AM PDT  
Battie, Dark Water may be different, because it's directed by Walter Salles, who directed fine movies like The Motorcycle Diaries and Central Station.

DLeonard -- I know, I know -- it's probably no contest at all. FF has Jessica Alba... but she's invisible! What's the point of that? The Thing looks a bit sad. I heard they shot additional scenes of Reed Richards stretching after The Incredibles came out, because Elastic Girl's scenes were so good.
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