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Asian Cinema. Discussion, Reviews, Questions (aka ChinJaKoFilm Thread)
Topic by: lizzoqops
Posted: September 17, 2005 - 3:37 PM PDT
Last Reply: December 2, 2007 - 10:31 PM PST

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author topic: Asian Cinema. Discussion, Reviews, Questions (aka ChinJaKoFilm Thread)
lizzoqops
post #61  on November 3, 2005 - 5:09 AM PST  
And why just copy Hollywood?

Zinda the Film

Yep, the only thing it was missing was singing and dancing.
hamano
post #62  on November 3, 2005 - 5:34 AM PST  
> On November 3, 2005 - 5:09 AM PST lizzoqops wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> And why just copy Hollywood?
>
> Zinda the Film
>
> Yep, the only thing it was missing was singing and dancing.
> ---------------------------------


WARNING! ZINDA SPOILERS!!

Yes, except instead of going missionary on his daughter, the protagonist is going to dance and sing with her in the middle of a rain storm...
lizzoqops
post #63  on November 3, 2005 - 9:49 AM PST  
Oh, the trailer is up. Find it here. You'll have to scroll down a bit. "If I had a Hammer"...oh the hilarity.

"What movie did we rip off? It's totally different. Our guy is imprisoned for 14 years, and only has 4 days to figure it all out!"
ahogue
post #64  on November 3, 2005 - 10:14 AM PST  
> On November 2, 2005 - 12:51 PM PST hamano wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> There ARE talented people working in film, television drama, and pop music. However, their recent work makes it clear that they're not really making films, or TV drama shows, or pop music. They're making live action versions of anime. Some of these creators are doing this so well that outsiders would think they're giving birth to the New Japanese Cinema or inventing J-Horror or whatever. They're not. They're just doing in "live action" stuff that's been depicted in manga and anime for years.
> ---------------------------------

Interesting you should say this, because I just watched Uzumaki (live action film based on a manga but no intervening anime as far as I can tell) and it's VERY much like anime. There is one scene, a simple one in which the main character thumbs through a photo album in her bedroom, where the mannerisms, expressions, music, everything is so perfectly like an anime that it almost seems irrelevant that it's live action.
hamano
post #65  on November 3, 2005 - 11:13 AM PST  
> On November 3, 2005 - 9:49 AM PST lizzoqops wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> "What movie did we rip off? It's totally different. Our guy is imprisoned for 14 years, and only has 4 days to figure it all out!"
> ---------------------------------

I don't really consider these "Bollywood" movies anymore... the only thing they have in common are where they're made, some of the actors, and the fact that they often borrow stories from movies from other countries. But Sanjay Gupta's just a complete thief. The star of this one was in DUS, which was a complete snorefest... they had an MTV style musical number at the OP credits, and a half-hearted dance scene at an engagement party.

I rented Bhoot for Halloween. It might have had some thrills, I don't know because it kept putting me to sleep. I don't think there were any musical numbers.

Culturally and artistically, these films are dead ends for India. But they're still willing to make delightful box-office bombs like Paheli, so all is not lost.
PGalloway1
post #66  on November 5, 2005 - 11:25 AM PST  
> On November 2, 2005 - 4:12 PM PST markhl wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> A belated congrats on the new book PG.. I'm not too into the Samurai genre but will be curious to see the "Dark Cinema" book when it comes out. I do have a tendency to indulge in the dark side after all.
> ---------------------------------


Thanks markhl. I know I can't please everyone, but if I can help increase awareness of Asian film in America, that's my goal. And I don't care what anybody says, I think Suicide Club (aka Suicide Circle) is great. You have to watch it a few times to really get it. Once won't do it (didn't for me either).
lizzoqops
post #67  on November 6, 2005 - 8:27 PM PST  
I don't know why I find this so fascinatin':

From indiafm.com:

"Sanjay Gupta has created quite a reputation for himself for making the most stylish films. His previous films Kaante and Musafir were known for their great music and stylization. If the trade talk is to be believed, Sanjay Gupta has outdone himself this time with the trailers of Zinda. The promos of the movie, starring Sanjay Dutt, John Abraham, Lara Dutta, Celina Jaitley and Mahesh Manjrekar in lead roles are ready. And people who have seen the trailers can't stop talking about them. It is on the ranks of international films. So much so, that these trailers left Sanjay Dutt awestruck.

Incidentally, there has been a lot of secrecy surrounding the film. Gupta made his lead actors sign an agreement according to which they are forbidden to divulge any details about the film, till he asks them to. In spite of this, there are many distributors who want to buy the film. With the trailers alone causing such a buzz, lets see what the movie has in store for us."


Will it shock the Indian/Hindi audience if the protagonist eats a cow burger?

SPOILERS FOR OLDBOY BELOW!!!!








Does anyone else have a craving to see this in the theater, and yell out "Don't do it, she's your daughter!"
hamano
post #68  on November 7, 2005 - 9:33 AM PST  
A truly GREAT remake of OLDBOY would be an Japan-USA co-production starring Steven Seagal and Ayako Fujitani... Or how about an all-American production starring Peter Fonda and Bridget Fonda? Bruce and Laura Dern might do it.... Not much hope for Jon Voight and Angelina Jolie since their relationship's been strained since Tomb Raider, but no harm in asking....

There are some mind-boggling possibilities with a comedy parody remake with Woody Allen playing lead. Sure Soon Yi Previn isn't his real daughter and neither is she an actress, but there won't be any need for simulated sex! And it might be the funniest thing since What's Up Tigerlily!
hamano
post #69  on November 14, 2005 - 8:02 PM PST  
Hey, guys... I just scored this little chestnut from amazon.co.jp and it's a hoot! Too bad there are no English subtitles.
lizzoqops
post #70  on November 15, 2005 - 7:24 AM PST  
> On November 14, 2005 - 8:02 PM PST hamano wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Hey, guys... I just scored this little chestnut from amazon.co.jp and it's a hoot! Too bad there are no English subtitles.
> ---------------------------------


Let me know when you release that, Hamano : )

Anyone else seen "Canary" yet? I would say this is the exception that proves your anime rule...the most complete Japanese movie I've seen in a long time. Beautifully made, acted, and photographed.
lizzoqops
post #71  on November 16, 2005 - 8:22 PM PST  
An update on Zinda:

Apparently Cineclick Asia has been alerted and is actually going to try to stop the release. Too bad.

A little news from a Bollywood news site:
Glitz

A blogger adds his sarcastic insight (this is pretty funny):

Desitrain
hamano
post #72  on November 16, 2005 - 9:35 PM PST  
Oh, thank you lizzo! I cracked a molar earlier today and made an appointment with the dentist for tomorrow morning. Eating soup and soft foods I made it through most of the day without much pain. Then I read that blog about Zinta and I laughed so hard my teeth chattered together. The exposed nerve ending on my broken tooth now feels like I was tortured by some sadistic Nazi doctor. I'm coming after you with a hammer!
lizzoqops
post #73  on November 17, 2005 - 10:30 AM PST  
Ha! I hope the dentist doesn't use a hammer on you : )

You might want let us know your blood type, just in case.
ttero
post #74  on November 28, 2005 - 7:43 PM PST  
>chris doyles commentary is one of the best iv'e heard on a dvd extra. but i'm a painter and his commentary is very inspirational to me - great stuff



On September 24, 2005 - 10:58 PM PDT lizzoqops wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> I'm having a major back to Greencine problem with the post office, too. My stuff gets here in 2-3 days, but the other way it's 5-7 days. Really bad.
>
> Anyway, stick "Last Life" at the top of the queue. I have a feeling you'll really like it. It will more than make up for a crappy horror movie. I haven't heard the Christopher Doyle commentary yet, but that's gotta be worth something.
>
> As for "Coin Locker Babies"...I notice they don't list any character names next to the actors. I can't imagine who will play who. It is kind of an "adventure", though. I mean, how else would you "genre" it? Sometimes it's funny, sometimes it's sad, sometimes it's sorta scifi, I guess...I don't know. It was probably the giant crocodile that clinched that category.
>
> Today I watched "Chungoo (Heaven's Soldier's)", a sort of Korean remake of Sonny Chiba's GI Samurai. It had some moments, but I wouldn't really recommend it. But I wasn't that fond of the original, either.
>
> I also rewatched Kilamanjaro. Much better the second time. A very odd movie about two very different twin brothers...sort of. It's kind of a crime-genre thing, but takes the twin swapping places thing to an extreme, too. Never seen anything like it.
>
> ---------------------------------

markhl
post #75  on December 4, 2005 - 5:22 PM PST  
Speaking of Last Life in the Universe, I finally caught that during a trip a couple of days ago and enjoyed it quite a bit. I just love these understated, simple films without a cookie-cutter happy ending just stamped on...

In other news, I probably won't continue my GC service for the forseeable future so I'm bowing out of the forums as well. Hey Lizz, wanna take over my Korean Cinema list? I'd hate to just see it disappear. You've probably seen more movies by now anyway.

Happy holidays everyone! It's been a fun green ride. Maybe I'll catch y'all again in a few years? Keep on truckin'! :)
hamano
post #76  on December 4, 2005 - 6:14 PM PST  
> On December 4, 2005 - 5:22 PM PST markhl wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Happy holidays everyone! It's been a fun green ride. Maybe I'll catch y'all again in a few years? Keep on truckin'! :)

Happy holidays to you too, markhl! I'd like to say we'll miss you, but I won't since I have a real e-mail address for you... And I'm sure this thread will be well tended, although the current fascination seems to be what will happen with Zinda (or "Oldboy, the Musical")!
IronS
post #77  on December 6, 2005 - 12:25 AM PST  
> On December 4, 2005 - 5:22 PM PST markhl wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> In other news, I probably won't continue my GC service for the forseeable future so I'm bowing out of the forums as well.
>

What? Well, have fun! And Happy Holidays to you, too!
IronS
post #78  on December 6, 2005 - 12:31 AM PST  
*moans, "one fewer engineer on these here boards...."*
markhl
post #79  on December 6, 2005 - 12:36 PM PST  
> On December 4, 2005 - 6:14 PM PST hamano wrote:
> Happy holidays to you too, markhl! I'd like to say we'll miss you, but I won't since I have a real e-mail address for you...

Almost sounds like a threat there H-man :) Please pass along the holiday sentiment to the rest of the clan. Thanks to you guys, I shall never forget the *#%@&* milk song like.. FOREVER.


Oh my.. I feel faint. I've managed to lure IronS into these here boards. GC has been slowly losing the once-strong presence of the geek demographic over time IronS.. You'll just have to keep the fight going.. I'm sure I'll return one day. GC is like a comfortable sofa for me by now (the one with the complementary body print - a la Homer Simpson).


I'll be watching over you guys from outside this green fishbowl periodically. Good luck with everything! I guess I'll never get to visit the mysterious HQ with the monkies.. how sad...
hamano
post #80  on December 6, 2005 - 1:09 PM PST  
> On December 6, 2005 - 12:36 PM PST markhl wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Oh my.. I feel faint. I've managed to lure IronS into these here boards. GC has been slowly losing the once-strong presence of the geek demographic over time IronS..

Oh, markhl, if you think you'll miss IronS, here's a super-secret JAVA mail link that will allow you to stay in touch. Just bookmark it and it will always be handy!
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