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Erotic film
Topic by: langmike
Posted: August 26, 2007 - 1:23 PM PDT
Last Reply: March 22, 2008 - 4:18 AM PDT

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author topic: Erotic film
kaream
post #21  on February 8, 2008 - 6:19 PM PST  
> On January 6, 2008 - 2:41 AM PST kaream wrote:
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> (Overall, the movie didn't do a whole lot for me -- I guess I understood what Bertolucci was trying to get at, but I felt the Nouvelle Vague/Cahiers/Henri Langlois/Cinematique/etc film revolution, the burgeoning sexual revolution, and especially Danny the Red's street revolution, all in the summer of 1968, in Bertolucci's film all went galloping off in different directions and never cohered into a satisfying whole.)
>
> Anyway, at just about the same time this thread was active here at GC's board I happened to post a few observations about the sexual content of The Dreamers at IMDb, in response to someone complaining the the movie was 'PORNO!!!', unquote. If anyone's interested, here's the web address for my post (sorry, I don't know how to put a live link here):
>
> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0309987/board/nest/75464779?p=2&d=80587304#80587304
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> If this doesn't work, let me know and I can copy that IMDb post over to here.
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Well, in the meantime, that whole IMDb thread has either fallen off a cliff or simply been deleted.

Basically I suggested that Bertolucci strikes me as being a joyful Dirty Old Man, in a number of his movies, gleefully putting more details of sex up on the screen than his stories really require.

In the long apres-sex take where the camera moves slowly up from Isabelle's calves to her post-orgasmic face, her labia are very obviously reddened and puffy, much more so than might be expected from normal intercourse. This is a detail that is in the film only because Bertolucci must have specifically wanted to show it. The effect might have been makeup, or added in postproduction, or it wouldn't surprise me if Bertolucci asked Green to have a few minutes of privacy and masturbate vigorously.

I thought it was pretty funny that in the Venus de Milo scene, where Matthew is presumably performing cunnilingus up under her drapery, if you look at how the two are actually positioned, he must in fact have his face nuzzled up in her butt crack.

And as another offhand example of Bertolucci's predelictions, in The Last Emperor, Pu Yi is still breastfed into his adolescence -- but his supposed wetnurse was obviously cast for the virginal shapeliness of her breasts and nipples, and had never nursed in her life.
SPerry
post #22  on March 22, 2008 - 4:18 AM PDT  
Best choice would be "Butterflies" with Maria Forsa. Best unsimulated I've ever seen.
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