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Erotic/Adult film directed by women
Topic by: doozer
Posted: August 27, 2007 - 10:28 AM PDT
Last Reply: May 7, 2010 - 11:08 PM PDT

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author topic: Erotic/Adult film directed by women
underdog
post #81  on September 21, 2007 - 12:05 PM PDT  
> On September 20, 2007 - 6:29 PM PDT Battie wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> I expect that it's both a reflection of our culture (look at how sex is treated in mainstream films...quite a bit of it, while not necessarily angry - A History of Violence aside - does tend to fall into unromantic situations, or situations in which the characters don't feel particularly connected). Sex in the City, imo, would be a good example. Sex for the sake of sex (and this is the reality outside of film, as well).
>
> Even in 80's slasher flicks where you got gutted for sex often had the two characters in some kind of romantic relationship.

Yeah, honestly, at least a little story and character development makes it sexier when two people get it on in a film. With no context, it's just sex. It cuts to the chase for people who just want to see people as objects screwing. I think we all have shorter attention spans these days so this fits with that, but a little development makes the sex more erotic.
>
> I've been reading various things, watching documentaries...and I've kind of come to a conclusion. When our society began focusing totally on the self, dumping ideals like duty both as old and as foolish, we lost some of the ideas that inspired the 60's. How do you get people to march for civil rights if they're only concerned with what affects them? It's become more and more about 'me, me, me' to the point that we end up with what we have now. I wonder if maybe the rise of violence in the US also has a little bit of hand up from the loss of dignity and respect in our culture.

This goes along with the larger topic of the objectifying of women in the media in general over the last 20-30 years or so, which shows no sign of decreasing.
>
> I suppose that's why I prefer hentai over porn...No real women involved. However, that's not to say it excuses my willingness to watch animated women be treated like blowup dolls.. >_>
>

Yeah, the treatment of female characters in quite a few hentai stories isn't any better, even if they are animated. And there are tentacles. You can only do the latter with animation. Otherwise it'd be kind of... freaky.

>
> *grins* That started with the whole idea of 'proof' that the two people were gettin' it on. X)
>

Heh. I can see enough proof with a medium shot, thank you very much.

> > These are two things I liked about the two Canidida Royalle films I watched - they weren't angry, and there weren't a lot of extreme close-ups.
> > ---------------------------------
>
> Which ones did you see?
> ---------------------------------

I saw One Size Fits All and Eyes of Desire, both mostly sweet. The latter was a little boring. They were well photographed, too. Her films are all that way supposedly. I think it's cool to have a woman's perspective on things. Um, I was just doing research, you know, because I interviewed her. No really, I did interview her. (But I would have watched them anyway.)
Battie
post #82  on September 21, 2007 - 3:02 PM PDT  
> On September 21, 2007 - 12:05 PM PDT underdog wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Yeah, honestly, at least a little story and character development makes it sexier when two people get it on in a film. With no context, it's just sex. It cuts to the chase for people who just want to see people as objects screwing. I think we all have shorter attention spans these days so this fits with that, but a little development makes the sex more erotic.
> >

Male end of pipe goes into female end of pipe.

> This goes along with the larger topic of the objectifying of women in the media in general over the last 20-30 years or so, which shows no sign of decreasing.
> >

Well...I think objectification of women has been the standard for thousands of years. It's just commercial and everywhere now. The problem is that there's objectification and not much else.

I watched that God's Warriors CNN special (which made me realize why my grandmother thinks Christian Armanpur(sp?) is so annoying). CA interviewed an ex-nun...the woman said that she enjoyed wearing the habit partly because it meant she never had to walk around worrying about her hair, her make-up, her clothes. :P

>
> Yeah, the treatment of female characters in quite a few hentai stories isn't any better, even if they are animated. And there are tentacles. You can only do the latter with animation. Otherwise it'd be kind of... freaky.
>

I found a tentacle toy once. I think I was discussing hentai and wondered if they actually create...and they do. Somewhat disturbing. Okay, a lot disturbing. But also amusing.

>
> I saw One Size Fits All and Eyes of Desire, both mostly sweet. The latter was a little boring. They were well photographed, too. Her films are all that way supposedly. I think it's cool to have a woman's perspective on things. Um, I was just doing research, you know, because I interviewed her. No really, I did interview her. (But I would have watched them anyway.)
> ---------------------------------

I didn't see the former...and the latter I rather liked. Mostly for the scene with the cross-dressing boyfriend. The beginning the funny, the middle (sex part) was erotic and the end was funny.

The first and last bits I just kind of ignored. But still, porn as erotic is very, very rare for me.
woozy
post #83  on September 22, 2007 - 11:16 PM PDT  
>
> Male end of pipe goes into female end of pipe.
>
Whoa! Calm down, girl!

> Well...I think objectification of women has been the standard for thousands of years. It's just commercial and everywhere now. The problem is that there's objectification and not much else.
>
There was a brief period where it seemed like we might start recognizing objectification for what it was and in its place. Now it seems like we are being inunduated with the idea the objectification is the norm and its silly to find anything wrong with it.

> I found a tentacle toy once.

Ha! I was once shopping with another GC member and we found some toys. She liked a fish toy but I was disturbed by big eyes. Reminded me of anime. I did buy a little duckie toy with big eyes. Not sure why. I haven't ever taken it out of its package.
>
But still, porn as erotic is very, very rare for me.
> ---------------------------------

That's probably true for everyone. I frequently fast foward to the dialog when I find the pumping scenes boring.

Catullus
post #84  on September 23, 2007 - 12:10 AM PDT  
> On September 22, 2007 - 11:16 PM PDT woozy wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> That's probably true for everyone. I frequently fast foward to the dialog when I find the pumping scenes boring
> ---------------------------------

right >_>

because I watch porn for the acting and read playboy for the articles <_<
woozy
post #85  on September 23, 2007 - 2:02 AM PDT  
> On September 23, 2007 - 12:10 AM PDT Catullus wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> > On September 22, 2007 - 11:16 PM PDT woozy wrote:
> > ---------------------------------
> > That's probably true for everyone. I frequently fast foward to the dialog when I find the pumping scenes boring
> > ---------------------------------
>
> right >_>
>
> because I watch porn for the acting and read playboy for the articles <_<
>
> ---------------------------------

Actually I *have* been known to fast-forward to the dialog. Don't get me wrong-- I *rented* it for the sex and the nudity and all. Well, actually this is one of my cases of being obsessive compulsive. It was about a decade ago when I was attending a professional conference in Washington D.C. ...cue the flash back harp music...

It was dreary and pretty boring and I was the only one from my company so I was feeling kind of depressed and lonely and I was spending a lot of time in my room. There isn't much to watch on t.v. so I sort of invoked a game of channel hoping and trying to watch the good bits of the pay per view in carefully timed seven second freebies. (For those who've never been to a convention and played this game, convention hotels let you enter a code to watch premium movies and add nine bucks to your bill. In channel skipping you get to watch for seven seconds so you get enough to know its a tedium to boredom and you might give in, assuming your companies expense account won't have a fit when you give the reciept. I'm pretty sure every convention goer has played this game. Troma DVDs used to have a special feature joke about this. They pointed out that when you skim by the naughty channels you can catch a teasing seven seconds. This is, they say, cruel because nobody can jerk off in seven seconds. Thus as a special service the Troma folks are going to give you 45 seconds which should be plenty of time for the likes of the average Troma viewer. Then the woman in the clip takes off her shirt and fake moans for 45 seconds, puts her shirt back on and says this has been a public service from the "good, good folks at Troma". It's pretty funny in a crude and utterly demeaning and depressing sort of way.) The convention was five days and that's a *lot* of time to play the seven second roulette game. (I also played other games like listen to maids singing as they go room to room getting closer and trying to guess how tall they are. Rationing the freebie shampoo so you can get the maximum bottles to take home with you. and so on.) Over the five days they had the same four or five movies over and over again and oddly enough I saw many of the same scenes again and again. I must have seen the same scene in "Ace Ventura 2" where Jim Carey's face is poking out of a rhino's ass four times. (Gad, that looked like an awful movie.) They had the same two porn movies over and over and over again.

Being bored and seeing the same scenes over and over gets one curious. Is there a story to this? In the scene after the two women fuck their husbands in the same room and make chatty small talk while they wash their hands while buck naked, was the dialog scripted? Did they improvise? What is the story anyway? What induced them to fuck their husbands in the same room anyway. When the mean and cranky couple (as opposed to the nice but uptight couple-- character development in porn is very nuanced, you know) are driving and she flashes her boobs and her gets annoyed and she says plaintitively "But I thought that's what you liked about me" was she being serious? In the back-story did he propose to her saying he loves her for her boobs and did she accept saying that was so romantic and did she make him promise he'd never stop loving her boobs? And why are the two couples always eat chinese food when they get together?

Well, that would have been the end of it except when I got back home and was browsing through my video store I noticed they actually had the same movie. Well, curiosity got the better of me.

Now don't get me wrong. I'm not trying to play coy and pretend I was in the video store perusing porn for innocent reasons. I was there for the usual reasons. But while there seeing the same movie I figured I might as well satisfy my curiosity.

It was a stupid and boring and utterly uninspired awful movie. I think I was really curious about the surreal scenes I mentioned above where the women make small talk at the sink and the wife flashes her boobs in the car. They were just done so gosh-darned ernestly that I think I was hoping there'd be some campy sub-text to pull the whole thing together.

It's that campy sub-text that was the only amusement. The story is a compelling drama of two bored couples (One couple the husband is quite and withdrawn while the wife is outgoing and in the other it's the opposite. As I said above, character development was very nuanced) who eventually swap partners and then discover it was a bad mistake. One guy to spice things up decides to watch a porno. As he pulls it out of the case he kisses it. Do guys usually kiss video tapes? Why? Does he have a nick-name for it? It's these little nuances I find fascinating.

The tape was a home movie of some party where 15 couples lay about a living room fucking. Now if you had one and only one cherished video tape that you tenderly kiss when you take it from its cover (does he store it gingerly wrapped in satin?), would you choose it be some home movie of some party where 15 couples lay about a living room fucking?

The porn movie tried to be a bit PC. The couples all wore condoms. This was mildly fascinating because they pump away with the condoms. Then the guys would pull out, remove the condoms and ejaculate on the women's pubic regions. This seemed to defeat the purpose of using condoms. What *was* the director thinking? Anyway these scenes were loooooooong. And there were a *lot* of them. Oddly, I discovered the hotel version I had watched in seven second snippets had been highly editted to omit the graphic sex scenes and leave only the simulated sex and the female nudity. (Penises are surely shocking.) The sex scenes were many. And boring.

As I said, the porn movie tried to be a bit PC. The sex was condomed. The infidelity had bad out come. And the very bad actresses delivered their lines with such gosh-darned earnestness. Will the uptight wife's outburst about how eating chinese food on a plate is much more orderly than eating it straight from the carton ever be resolved? Will having a naked conversation at the sink about bathtowels with your best friend immediatly after watching her fuck her husband while she was fucking hers be a much needed emotional outlet?

And just while I was pondering these eternal questions, the movie would cut to an eternal orgy scene of pump, withdraw, remove condom, shake, lather, and repeat. Again, and again! And again!

Now you may not believe that I actually fast-forwarded through the sex scenes to get to the dialog but I assure you, it is absolutely true. I was rewarded at the end with a heart-rendering line of dialog from the "nice" wife upon hearing their wife swapping caused the other couple to break up. "Oh god, what have we done?" Have you ever heard such crisp writing?

Porn is so wierd when it gets preachy.
Battie
post #86  on September 23, 2007 - 12:54 PM PDT  
*blinks* And here I was thinking that I was weird for saying James Purefoy's manliness is pretty.

And if you don't know who Purefoy is, go rent HBO's Rome.
woozy
post #87  on September 23, 2007 - 3:52 PM PDT  
> On September 23, 2007 - 12:54 PM PDT Battie wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> *blinks* And here I was thinking that I was weird for saying James Purefoy's manliness is pretty.
>
No, you are weird for entirely different reasons.

*sigh* I thought that story was kind of funny.

I mean, honestly, haven't you ever found porn just boring and fast forwarded through it? Admittedly if one fast forwards through the sex scenes there usually isn't anything else to fast forward *to*. I guess I was just bored and wondering if the story was ever going to resolve.

I mean, just by degrading yourself so low to rent porn, you've already put yourself into a surreal situation. You might as well make fun of yourself by critically analysing the dialog.

> And if you don't know who Purefoy is, go rent HBO's Rome.
> ---------------------------------


Like Rome. Didn't care much for Purefoy. Don't see why finding his manliness pretty would be weird.
underdog
post #88  on September 23, 2007 - 7:03 PM PDT  
> On September 23, 2007 - 3:52 PM PDT woozy wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> > On September 23, 2007 - 12:54 PM PDT Battie wrote:
> > ---------------------------------
> > *blinks* And here I was thinking that I was weird for saying James Purefoy's manliness is pretty.
> >
> No, you are weird for entirely different reasons.
>
> *sigh* I thought that story was kind of funny.
>
> I mean, honestly, haven't you ever found porn just boring and fast forwarded through it? Admittedly if one fast forwards through the sex scenes there usually isn't anything else to fast forward *to*. I guess I was just bored and wondering if the story was ever going to resolve.
>
> I mean, just by degrading yourself so low to rent porn, you've already put yourself into a surreal situation. You might as well make fun of yourself by critically analysing the dialog.

I hear you Woozy, I've seen some porn where the sex was boring and while the dialogue was horrible, it was kind of fascinating in a way - especially in adult films that are trying to do something different or arty, and end up failing there anyway, but still more interesting than their, er, fruitless sex scenes.

>
> > And if you don't know who Purefoy is, go rent HBO's Rome.
> > ---------------------------------
>
>
> Like Rome. Didn't care much for Purefoy. Don't see why finding his manliness pretty would be weird.
>
> ---------------------------------

Actually, for a different side of Purefoy do check out Dance to the Music of Time (which we just got in here at GC). Quite a nice role and terrific performance from Rome's Marc Antony. (Man, that show was wonderfully, and appropriately, naughty. I miss it already.)

Battie
post #89  on September 24, 2007 - 12:27 PM PDT  
> On September 23, 2007 - 3:52 PM PDT woozy wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> No, you are weird for entirely different reasons.
>
> *sigh* I thought that story was kind of funny.
>
> I mean, honestly, haven't you ever found porn just boring and fast forwarded through it? Admittedly if one fast forwards through the sex scenes there usually isn't anything else to fast forward *to*. I guess I was just bored and wondering if the story was ever going to resolve.
>

...I would never admit to fast-forwarding.

> I mean, just by degrading yourself so low to rent porn, you've already put yourself into a surreal situation. You might as well make fun of yourself by critically analysing the dialog.
>

Yeah, my ex would do that. I understood the fascination (me and a chick friend would do it with horror movies), but at the same time...Just weird.

>
> Like Rome. Didn't care much for Purefoy. Don't see why finding his manliness pretty would be weird.
>
> ---------------------------------

You do know I was using a euphemism, right?

I caught myself wondering during RE3 if Oded's was pretty. *snicker* Kinda got distracted for about two minutes before I realized the movie was still playing.
woozy
post #90  on September 24, 2007 - 1:50 PM PDT  
> On September 24, 2007 - 12:27 PM PDT Battie wrote:
> ---------------------------------
>
> ...I would never admit to fast-forwarding.
>
You'd never admit to getting bored by porn? (of course, if the sex is boring there'd be nothing really to fast forward to. I did once get a movie, saw the menu, decided it was boring, and returned it unseen.)


> > Like Rome. Didn't care much for Purefoy. Don't see why finding his manliness pretty would be weird.
> >
> > ---------------------------------
>
> You do know I was using a euphemism, right?
>
Uh, no, I didn't. But even still it's not that weird. Of course the word "pretty" isn't how most guys would like it described but I've known enough women to understand.

Battie
post #91  on May 7, 2010 - 11:08 PM PDT  
Old thread, but I thought I add a mention for Bliss to it. One of the better softcore erotic tv series, meant for women. Heard bad things about season 3, but season 1 was good (and occasionally daring when compared to what gets marketed towards men). Season 2 is still on my bookshelf, unopened, after a year. *facepalm*
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