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Topic by: Cinenaut
Posted: January 16, 2008 - 9:55 AM PST
Last Reply: January 14, 2009 - 9:20 AM PST
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topic: Obits 2008 |
shiftless
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post #21
on January 29, 2008 - 9:12 PM PST
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Ledger didn't have an iconic role to embed himself the the American/World psyche yet. He will be forgotten in 10 years by a majority of the public. Brokeback should have given him icon status but the subject matter makes too many Americans (and other countries as well) squirm.
And I just have to say did Brandon Lee's "careeer" transcend anything? I think not. Famous dad, some potential, bang.
I think you have to ask whether joe and jane average, not film buffs, will remember an actor for their death or for their performance, or remembered at all. In a few years Ledger will be remembered as "that guy who died", not remembered for a half a century for one of his roles like Dean et al.. |
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hamano
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post #22
on January 30, 2008 - 3:11 AM PST
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> On January 29, 2008 - 9:12 PM PST shiftless wrote:
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> Ledger didn't have an iconic role to embed himself the the American/World psyche yet. He will be forgotten in 10 years by a majority of the public.
Exactly! He's not famous for movies that he carried on his own. And it's arguable whether even fans will think of Brokeback as a "Heath Ledger film" more than an "Ang Lee film"... Given that script, could someone like Viggo Mortensen have pulled the role off just as well or better? We'll never know for sure but my inclination is to say yes.
> And I just have to say did Brandon Lee's "careeer" transcend anything? I think not. Famous dad, some potential, bang.
My point is that even Lee had something that at least rates him higher than Renfro in, say, a trivia quiz. And the circumstances of Lee's death would be Shakespearian if it wasn't so random... a boy who had a father he barely knew who was a legendary cult actor grows up and becomes an actor and plays an iconic goth superhero then is tragically killed with a prop gun during filming. It would be hard to top that "story"...
> I think you have to ask whether joe and jane average, not film buffs, will remember an actor for their death or for their performance, or remembered at all
Admittedly, I'm more interested in the practice of writing/reading obits more from a "pop culture" aspect than as an objective exercise in appraising the body of work produced by a director or actor. But even objectively, could we say the lives of Renfro and Ledger made a HUGE difference to world film culture/history as a whole?
When Ritsuko Okazaki, a singer/songwriter who was primarily famous for writing theme songs for Japanese anime, suddenly died of cancer, it made a pretty big impact on me. As a fan of anime and anime-related music. But objectively speaking even I can see how small her "footprint" will be in the annals of history. I wouldn't be insulted or surprised if anyone says, "Ritsuko Who??" Maybe I'd say, "You know, she wrote that great theme song for Fruits Basket" and if I still get a blank stare, I'd just move on.
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NLee
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post #23
on January 30, 2008 - 7:51 AM PST
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> On January 30, 2008 - 3:11 AM PST hamano wrote:
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> When Ritsuko Okazaki, a singer/songwriter who was primarily famous for writing theme songs for Japanese anime, suddenly died of cancer...
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Oh crap! When did that happened? I can honestly say Ritsuko Okazaki brought me far more enjoyment as a voice actor than most American movie stars (Ledger who?). Well, maybe not as much as Pamela Anderson, but she's Canadian.
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Vanamonde
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post #24
on January 31, 2008 - 8:50 PM PST
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> On January 30, 2008 - 7:51 AM PST NLee wrote:
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> Oh crap! When did that happened? I can honestly say Ritsuko Okazaki brought me far more enjoyment as a voice actor than most American movie stars...
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http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/anime/essentials/ritsuko_okazaki/
According to this obit, 2004. This the first I have heard of this tragic death. She was only 44.
Life is short.
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Vanamonde
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post #25
on February 11, 2008 - 2:20 AM PST
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The passing of an icon.
I loved him in "52 Pickup" and I was shocked to see him in "Naked Lunch" (talk about playing against type!)
Of course, he will always be remember for "Jaws"
Roy Scheider is gone at 75
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080211061501.avjh49vm&show_article=1
I should hope to have lived such a full life! |
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hamano
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post #26
on February 11, 2008 - 3:58 AM PST
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> On February 11, 2008 - 2:20 AM PST Vanamonde wrote:
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> I loved him in "52 Pickup" and I was shocked to see him in "Naked Lunch" (talk about playing against type!)
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> Of course, he will always be remember for "Jaws"
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> Roy Scheider is gone at 75
I loved Vanity in 52 Pickup.... but I'll always remember Scheider for All That Jazz. |
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underdog
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post #27
on February 11, 2008 - 2:38 PM PST
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| I will always love Roy Scheider in Jaws, of course, but if you've never seen it, you should honor him with a viewing of the underrated 70s cop movie The Seven-Ups, which has one of the great car chase scenes of all-time. |
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Vanamonde
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post #28
on February 11, 2008 - 8:24 PM PST
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> On February 11, 2008 - 2:38 PM PST underdog wrote:
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> but if you've never seen it, you should honor him with a viewing of the underrated 70s cop movie The Seven-Ups, which has one of the great car chase scenes of all-time.
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I was about to say, no way it is better than Bullitt, then I read, "This was the only directorial effort of Philip D'Antoni, producer of the action classic Bullitt (1968)."
This I gotta see.
And yes, I loved "All the Jazz" too.
"Bye bye love
Bye bye sweet caress
Hello emptiness
I feel like I could die
I feel like I could die."
I never thought of that ole Everly Brothers tune in the same way again, not after that film.
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underdog
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post #29
on February 12, 2008 - 2:22 PM PST
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| And I believe edited by the guy who edited Bullit and The French Connection, too - so, yeah, it's certainly up there with those two, even if it may not surpass them. |
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underdog
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post #30
on March 18, 2008 - 9:08 AM PDT
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Another in the "Far Too Young to Die" category:
RIP, director Anthony Minghella. Only 54!
He was in Africa filming The No 1 Ladies' Detective Agency.
I have no idea what felled him but it certainly wasn't natural causes. |
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hamano
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post #31
on March 18, 2008 - 10:24 AM PDT
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> On March 18, 2008 - 9:08 AM PDT underdog wrote:
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> I have no idea what felled him but it certainly wasn't natural causes.
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The Talented Mr. Minghella was actually felled by complications following cancer surgery. Details in this obit. You know, he was probably a great choice to direct The No.1 Ladies Detective Agency... I think that was finished and soon to premier... |
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hamano
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post #32
on March 18, 2008 - 10:30 AM PDT
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> On March 18, 2008 - 10:24 AM PDT hamano wrote:
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> > On March 18, 2008 - 9:08 AM PDT underdog wrote:
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> > I have no idea what felled him but it certainly wasn't natural causes.
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> The Talented Mr. Minghella was actually felled by complications following cancer surgery. Details in this obit. You know, he was probably a great choice to direct The No.1 Ladies Detective Agency... I think that was finished and soon to premier...
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BBC obit. |
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troublemaker
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post #33
on March 18, 2008 - 10:41 AM PDT
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| Though I wasn't the biggest fan of his work, it's sad to see someone who definitely fit the "too young to die" category. Being 50 years old in director years is practically just hitting your middle-age point. |
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Cinenaut
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underdog
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underdog
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post #36
on March 19, 2008 - 11:15 AM PDT
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Do Minghella, Clarke, and Ivan Dixon count as the "death trifecta"? I hope so - I don't want to worry about anyone else this week!
(And yes, Dixon was also in Hogan's Heroes.) |
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Vanamonde
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post #37
on March 20, 2008 - 4:02 AM PDT
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> On March 18, 2008 - 4:15 PM PDT Cinenaut wrote:
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> Arthur C. Clarke, aged 90.
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> He never got to see Rendezvous with Rama make it to the big screen.
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No, but he did review the final manuscript on "The Last Theorem". And man, I would love to "The Light of Other Days" made into a film, too. And though he had a long, good life, now that he is gone, "The future is just not what is used to be."
When I was 11 in the early 1960's, I bought my first science fiction paperback. It was _Against_the_Fall_of_Night_, a tale of humanity's place in the galaxy in 1,000,000,000 A.D. My mind was forever warped and I thank this great man for
that and many, many hours of pleasure and education. Thanks to him (and Asimov), I have no tolerance for tedious education - they both proved that learning is one of the greatest pleasures of life and I cannot suffer those who would ruin that joy.
"It is beautiful to see the multicolour shadows on the planet of the Seven Suns."
Does everyone know where I got my name? It was from that novel.
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hamano
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hamano
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post #39
on April 6, 2008 - 5:17 AM PDT
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Moses is ready to be processed into a green high-energy artificial food source. "Soylent Green is Charlton!"
Actor Charlton Heston, 84, passed away at his home. |
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manuelvillanueva
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post #40
on April 6, 2008 - 8:41 PM PDT
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> On April 6, 2008 - 5:17 AM PDT hamano wrote:
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> Moses is ready to be processed into a green high-energy artificial food source. "Soylent Green is Charlton!"
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> Actor Charlton Heston, 84, passed away at his home.
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The NRA lost a great spokesman. |
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