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Pubic Hair
Topic by: kaream
Posted: January 27, 2008 - 3:25 AM PST
Last Reply: April 8, 2010 - 8:18 AM PDT

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author topic: Pubic Hair
kaream
post #21  on January 31, 2008 - 1:39 PM PST  
> On January 31, 2008 - 1:07 PM PST kaream wrote:
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.. a male fantasy of a supposed female fantasy (dream).
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For a very different depiction of male sexual fantasy, compare Henry Fuseli's 1782 The Nightmare.
Vanamonde
post #22  on January 31, 2008 - 8:33 PM PST  
> On January 30, 2008 - 4:26 PM PST hamano wrote:
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> ...Twin Angels was a pretty good hentai spoof of the magic girls genre, if you enjoyed mainstream titles like Sailor Moon or Devil Hunter Yohko.
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This Usagi fanatic hated Twin Angels. Far too much lame plot with too little sex, with little redeeming artwork.

Just my opinion.
kaream
post #23  on February 2, 2008 - 3:00 AM PST  
> On January 27, 2008 - 3:25 AM PST kaream wrote:
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> I wonder if anyone has any insights into the evolution of fashion in the retaining or removing of pubic hair over the past 35 or so years. I haven't gone back to check, but it seems to me that all of the old Mitchell Brothers / John Holmes /Harry Reems / etc films all sported a full natural bush, whereas today it's very rare to find women, at least, and many men as well, who are not entirely bare. (It boggles my mind that many seem to shave rather than waxing, which makes me cring at the thought of all the itching that must involve.) Or some of the women will leave a fanciful little closely-trimmed patch just in the vicinity of the pubic bone.
>
> A couple of years ago a young employee -- late teens -- and I were sorting through a large stack of donated very old Playboys, and I remarked on the profusion of hair back in those days. The young man said, yes, that he thought it was disgusting; that he always makes (his word) all of his girlfriends shave. And I'm told by others of a younger generation than myself that the practice is quite widespread even among housewives and other women who are now approaching middle age.
>
> Most foreign, and some American, mainstream films, still generally seem to have actresses retaining at least most of their natural hair, though usually now it tends to be removed along the sides for bikinis or thongs.
>
> I'm really just curious about this phenomenon, and what it says about the vagaries of fashion, and the expectations of sexual partners. Does it seem to have been a very gradual transition, starting with side trimming for more revealing wear in public, or was there some point at which a 'meme' of hairlessness swept through both movies and audiences?
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Okay, here, finally, is nearly all the answer to my question. This also contains further discussion.
kaream
post #24  on February 2, 2008 - 3:17 AM PST  
Well, I certainly didn't know this:

'It is interesting to note that the lack of hair around the anus will make it impossible to pass gas silently.'
Vanamonde
post #25  on February 3, 2008 - 12:01 AM PST  
> On February 2, 2008 - 3:17 AM PST kaream wrote:
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> Well, I certainly didn't know this:
>
> 'It is interesting to note that the lack of hair around the anus will make it impossible to pass gas silently.'
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Oh, poop - with a little skill, anyone can learn the "Left Cheek Sneak". Yes, friends, you too can be silent but deadly with this simple little manurer-ver.

Grab a case of Guiness and a bowl of beans and practice, practice, practice. Silence may be golden but it smells like....
kaream
post #26  on February 4, 2008 - 4:18 PM PST  
> On February 2, 2008 - 3:17 AM PST kaream wrote:
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> 'It is interesting to note that the lack of hair around the anus will make it impossible to pass gas silently.'
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In any case, this doesn't make the slightest bit of sense to me. Neither physics nor physiology. You've got to hope that isn't the infamous 'wild hair' turned up in the wrong direction. I think this is an urban legend.
Battie
post #27  on February 4, 2008 - 5:56 PM PST  
*contemplates the complexities of a thread starting with pubic hair and ending in hentai* The cosmos is HUGE!


That said, shaving is a hassle. Stubble isn't so horrible except for the first day or two. But certain areas are prone to 'red bumps' (depending on the woman, but most women I've spoken either never had it or had it in the same place). There are some benefits (more than shaving my legs, at any rate), but it's annoying either way. Suggestion: learn to like trimming, or your girlfriends will never have sex with you. Unless they're high-maintenance, but that comes with its own issues.

Down with razors! (Says the woman who got an electric razor for Christmas.)
Battie
post #28  on February 4, 2008 - 6:19 PM PST  
> On February 4, 2008 - 4:18 PM PST kaream wrote:
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> > On February 2, 2008 - 3:17 AM PST kaream wrote:
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> > 'It is interesting to note that the lack of hair around the anus will make it impossible to pass gas silently.'
> > ---------------------------------
>
> In any case, this doesn't make the slightest bit of sense to me. Neither physics nor physiology. You've got to hope that isn't the infamous 'wild hair' turned up in the wrong direction. I think this is an urban legend.
>
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Ahem. It might be, but ah...skin that is shaved (be it armpits or elsewhere), have a tendency to stick against other shaved surfaces. Ever notice how pre-pubescent boys tend to make armpit farts easier than adult males? There is a reason!
kaream
post #29  on February 4, 2008 - 8:53 PM PST  
> On February 4, 2008 - 5:56 PM PST Battie wrote:
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> *contemplates the complexities of a thread starting with pubic hair and ending in hentai* The cosmos is HUGE!

Well, yes. I thought hentai would probably be a pretty good indication of cultural attitudes about hair versus hairless; and from the one movie I've tried so far, it looks like you get some of each.

>
> That said, shaving is a hassle. Stubble isn't so horrible except for the first day or two. But certain areas are prone to 'red bumps' (depending on the woman, but most women I've spoken either never had it or had it in the same place). There are some benefits (more than shaving my legs, at any rate), but it's annoying either way.

I take it you've never tried waxing?

>
>Suggestion: learn to like trimming, or your girlfriends will never have sex with you. Unless they're high-maintenance, but that comes with its own issues.

God, I outgrew high-maintenance friends with issues, of all sexes, many years ago. Life is too short. I was really just trying to figure out how and why this meme, or fad if that's what it is, of hairless crotches got started, what propels it, and how widespread it is. I can understand that it might be a turn-on for boys, but beyond the age of 25, my mind boggles at the thought of either men or women finding it attractive. Or of grown women depilating themselves 'for' their men.

>
> Down with razors! (Says the woman who got an electric razor for Christmas.)

FWIW, that same last website linked to advises against using an electric, but I've never tried one.
> ---------------------------------

and

> On February 4, 2008 - 6:19 PM PST Battie wrote:
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> Ahem. It might be, but ah...skin that is shaved (be it armpits or elsewhere), have a tendency to stick against other shaved surfaces. Ever notice how pre-pubescent boys tend to make armpit farts easier than adult males? There is a reason!
> ---------------------------------

:-D
Well, I've certainly noticed that hairless skin sticks to hairless skin -- pretty uncomfortable. (I had not noticed about adult males, or females, making armpit farts.) But to get anatomical about it, men have hair *in* their armpits, whereas ... ooh, that does sound uncomfortable.

This really is a pretty funny thread; I'm glad I started it.
kaream
post #30  on February 5, 2008 - 3:26 AM PST  
> On February 4, 2008 - 8:53 PM PST kaream wrote:
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I can understand that it might be a turn-on for boys, but beyond the age of 25, my mind boggles at the thought of either men or women finding it attractive. Or of grown women depilating themselves 'for' their men.
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I guess I just threw that opinion out there. I admit to finding 'natural' much more aesthetically pleasing, for both men and women. But there's also the unacknowledged -- maybe even widely unrecognized -- fact that a glabrous pubic area is essentially pedophilic. There's something slightly sick about it -- or immature, at the very least.

Then there's also the opposite problem, if you've ever looked at any of what passes for online porn, of just plain unattractiveness, primarily in older women past their first virginal bloom of youth -- 'red bumps', five-o'clock shadow, pimples and zits, dark and purplish localized skin tone; and distended labia minora, floppy outer vulva, etc etc. Childbirth can do this to you. Natural hair doesn't make the latter conditions go away, of course, but does make it all far less obvious. (Or you can spend big bucks at the plastic surgeon, who while you're there can also puff out the labia majora to give you a real prepubescent look -- and then we're right back with the pedophilic situation.)

Anyway, this is my own personal reaction to the entire concept, FWIW. I just have a hard time imagining any self-respecting female over the age of, say, 18, wanting to model themselves on Britney, Paris or Lindsay, who keep getting photographed pantyless and hairless.

I didn't start off with my OP planning to make a statement; I was really just curious. But there you go.
Vanamonde
post #31  on February 5, 2008 - 11:59 AM PST  
> On February 5, 2008 - 3:26 AM PST kaream wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> I admit to finding 'natural' much more aesthetically pleasing, for both men and women. But there's also the unacknowledged -- maybe even widely unrecognized -- fact that a glabrous pubic area is essentially pedophilic. There's something slightly sick about it -- or immature, at the very least.
>

Oh, fartles. I think a nice shaved twat just tastes better and it licks smoother and does not tickle the nose so much. Share me the accusation of depravity - we just have different *tastes*.

And yes, I even like a bad pun, now and zen, and even anchovies, too. You don't have to share my tastes but please, don't be a bigot about it.

kaream
post #32  on February 5, 2008 - 4:02 PM PST  
> On February 5, 2008 - 11:59 AM PST Vanamonde wrote:
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please, don't be a bigot about it.
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Sorry, I guess maybe I was up on my fuddy-duddy old feminist high horse, reacting to a kid (very sweet and personable) who is "disgusted" by pubic hair, and "makes" "all of his girlfriends" shave. As long as a woman feels comfortable with her own sexuality and body, whether natural or waxed, and isn't feeling at all pressured by either peer group or partner, then to me that's all that really counts.
Battie
post #33  on February 5, 2008 - 9:22 PM PST  
> On February 5, 2008 - 3:26 AM PST kaream wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> I guess I just threw that opinion out there. I admit to finding 'natural' much more aesthetically pleasing, for both men and women. But there's also the unacknowledged -- maybe even widely unrecognized -- fact that a glabrous pubic area is essentially pedophilic. There's something slightly sick about it -- or immature, at the very least.
>

It's about sensation and the (real or imagine) hygenics of it. That said, it is a completely disturbing look to me. Not necessarily because it's pedophilic, but because it just looks unnatural. And yes, unhappy. XD

But to explain: hair holds scent better than skin (which is why when you shave your armpits, deoderant is suddenly 'very' effective). As for sensation...that would take more details than I care to give. XD But it's really the only thing that justifies (partial) shaving.

> Anyway, this is my own personal reaction to the entire concept, FWIW. I just have a hard time imagining any self-respecting female over the age of, say, 18, wanting to model themselves on Britney, Paris or Lindsay, who keep getting photographed pantyless and hairless.
> ---------------------------------

I find fashion annoying on its own, but I'm rarely too pressed upon by it to follow the dictates. It's usually physical discomfort (see bras) or irritation that push me into shaving. If I let my legs go too long (which I've done, particularly when my back made moving painful), the hair grew in weird directions. Once long enough, it'd get pushed back and forth by clothes and bedding. Very uncomfortable after knowing how shaved legs feel. My electric razor doesn't get my legs smooth enough to walk around bare-legged, but it does make them smooth enough that I don't feel that weird sensation of hair being pulled in the wrong direction.

Now, just so we're clear, I didn't even try pubic shaving until I was single. There wasn't a man to keep myself bare for. I did it out of curiosity and found that I liked it (after a about 4-5 days, since those first few days always felt weird and sensitive), but hated the actual hassle of it. So I ended up settling on an in-between kind of thing. It's really just about whether or not you like it, and whether or not you want the hassle of it.

For women who do it 'for' a man...Dumbasses. Also known as 'high-maintenance.'
Battie
post #34  on February 5, 2008 - 9:27 PM PST  
> On February 5, 2008 - 4:02 PM PST kaream wrote:
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> Sorry, I guess maybe I was up on my fuddy-duddy old feminist high horse, reacting to a kid (very sweet and personable) who is "disgusted" by pubic hair, and "makes" "all of his girlfriends" shave. As long as a woman feels comfortable with her own sexuality and body, whether natural or waxed, and isn't feeling at all pressured by either peer group or partner, then to me that's all that really counts.
>
> ---------------------------------

*shrug* I had the same reaction years ago. :) But it was partly..."You want me to put a razor WHERE?!"

I think by the time the kid becomes an adult, he'll meet women (his own age, by then) who are sure of themselves enough to tell him where to shove it if they aren't inclined towards shaving. Most teenaged girls are prone towards giving in to boyfriends on personal matters, anyway. They'll get over it, and he'll learn to stop being so picky.

Actually, several of the people I know that dislike the bare look are men. :) They each have their reasons. For one, it's just the joy of pubic hair (he's a trip).
TMarts
post #35  on February 7, 2008 - 12:11 AM PST  
> > > Note tentacle rape depicted at least as early as 1820.
> >
Wow and here i thought Lovecraft was original genius.....

T
artifex
post #36  on February 7, 2008 - 2:24 AM PST  
> On February 5, 2008 - 9:22 PM PST Battie wrote:

> For women who do it 'for' a man...Dumbasses. Also known as 'high-maintenance.'

Considering that some women demand their male partners be circumcised, it doesn't really sound like a big request.
kaream
post #37  on February 7, 2008 - 2:35 AM PST  
> On February 7, 2008 - 2:24 AM PST artifex wrote:
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> > On February 5, 2008 - 9:22 PM PST Battie wrote:
>
> > For women who do it 'for' a man...Dumbasses. Also known as 'high-maintenance.'
>
> Considering that some women demand their male partners be circumcised, it doesn't really sound like a big request.
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Are you serious?! *Very* hard for me to imagine such a scenario. Talk about high-maintenance women! Hair at least grows back, and doesn't hurt quite as much to cut. I've known exactly one postpubertal male who underwent the knife, for medical necessity.
hamano
post #38  on February 7, 2008 - 6:17 AM PST  
Going under the knife

I guess shaving is a fairly safe, aesthetically interesting, and nicely reversible modification, considering....
kaream
post #39  on February 7, 2008 - 1:23 PM PST  
> On February 7, 2008 - 6:17 AM PST hamano wrote:
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> Going under the knife
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Holy dildoes, Batman! It looks like a real live two-in-one!

'Double your pleasure, double your fun, ...'
Vanamonde
post #40  on February 7, 2008 - 10:20 PM PST  
Apology accept, kaream, and sorry, I've been running a little hot lately.

I hate election years.

Still, it is all about choice.

I like chocolate ice cream and roasted duck, but not together. Some eat only veggies.

We all have tastes and choice. Viva la difference!!!
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