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Obama unites the Dead
Topic by: Vanamonde
Posted: February 3, 2008 - 7:19 AM PST
Last Reply: October 28, 2008 - 9:28 PM PDT

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author topic: Obama unites the Dead
hamano
post #81  on October 9, 2008 - 7:15 PM PDT  
Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson just announced a new bailout plan where the government will pay to subsidize gasoline purchases by people who own SUVs and small trucks. Senator John McCain quickly endorsed the new plan, saying, "Friends, we don't want anyone to be turned out of their giant McMansions because of runaway mortgage costs, and we don't want any Americans to have to give up their God-given right to drive humongous gas guzzlers."
Catullus
post #82  on October 9, 2008 - 8:49 PM PDT  
mccain says my friends and calls himself a maverick way way way too often...

does he really think calling himself a maverick makes him cool?
like hes some sort of anti-hero?

Hes a 72 year old man who looks like he needs to have a warm batch before bed at 7pm. There is nothing cool about that.
Battie
post #83  on October 9, 2008 - 10:42 PM PDT  
...No one uses the word 'maverick' now except English majors and old people. Usually they're both.
Cinenaut
post #84  on October 10, 2008 - 8:13 AM PDT  
Not only that, but apparently the Maverick family is pissed off about it.
underdog
post #85  on October 10, 2008 - 10:36 AM PDT  
> On October 9, 2008 - 8:49 PM PDT Catullus wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> mccain says my friends and calls himself a maverick way way way too often...
>
> does he really think calling himself a maverick makes him cool?
> like hes some sort of anti-hero?
>
> Hes a 72 year old man who looks like he needs to have a warm batch before bed at 7pm. There is nothing cool about that.
> ---------------------------------

What if he called people this instead?
Cinenaut
post #86  on October 16, 2008 - 9:45 AM PDT  
Debate number three:

Angry Blinky Man and Senator Government

Meet

Joe the Plumber
underdog
post #87  on October 16, 2008 - 10:49 AM PDT  
> On October 16, 2008 - 9:45 AM PDT Cinenaut wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Debate number three:
>
> Angry Blinky Man and Senator Government
>
> Meet
>
> Joe the Plumber
> ---------------------------------

Basically. Though be careful, when Angry Blinky Man turns into Crazy Witch Doctor, you could be under a spell before you know it.
Cinenaut
post #88  on October 16, 2008 - 1:24 PM PDT  
Yikes! And that makes me think of Lon Chaney for some reason.

> On October 16, 2008 - 10:49 AM PDT underdog wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> > On October 16, 2008 - 9:45 AM PDT Cinenaut wrote:
> > ---------------------------------
> > Debate number three:
> >
> > Angry Blinky Man and Senator Government
> >
> > Meet
> >
> > Joe the Plumber
> > ---------------------------------
>
> Basically. Though be careful, when Angry Blinky Man turns into Crazy Witch Doctor, you could be under a spell before you know it.
>
> ---------------------------------

kaream
post #89  on October 28, 2008 - 9:28 PM PDT  
> On September 3, 2008 - 10:27 PM PDT kaream wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> I call it 55% McCain/Palin, 45% Obama/Biden. The main reason is that McCain is going to collect 95% of the undecided vote, where the choice is finally made in the voting booth with pencil in hand. And besides, we haven't even seen yet what kind of October Surprise Dick Cheney is going to come up with. Obama would need at least a 10%-15% spread at this point to be able to pull it off. ...

> ... at McCain's age, there's close to a 50% chance of his becoming unable to serve out his term with all faculties intact, so it might be wise to take a good hard look at who Sarah Palin is.
> ---------------------------------

Well, in the meantime a lot has happened in the campaign landscape since the beginning of September that, to me at least, was not foreseeable at that time.

I do still think there will be a not insignificant Bradley Effect, with Obama's total popular vote coming in short of any pre-election polls, but it seems to me that one of the most important -- and amazing -- effects of this campaign and election is the extent to which race has subtly become a non-issue in the hearts and minds of so many older people who could never have imagined voting for an African-American under any circumstances at all. People who would never consider themselves prejudiced, but for whom the concept would be too unlikely to be imaginable. Some of this was already under way with the popularity and perceived 'safeness' of Colin Powell; but what's happening now is a real game-changer, with permanent effects on our collective psyche.

About John McCain, I still think that despite everything we've seen and heard over the past couple of months, he's basically a decent and honorable man. Luck was certainly against him, but his tragedy is that in trying to outrun that bad luck of timing, he has irrevocably damaged his reputation, his legacy, by turning his campaign over to professional sleaze artists. He's angry and bitter now, and this campaign has taken more of a toll on him than he's allowed to show. I'd be very surprised if he's still functioning at full capacity four years from now.

As for Dick Cheney's October Surprise ... well, it ain't over till it's over.
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