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True Blood
Topic by: underdog
Posted: September 5, 2008 - 5:21 PM PDT
Last Reply: October 31, 2008 - 1:21 PM PDT

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author topic: True Blood
doozer
post #21  on October 27, 2008 - 6:45 PM PDT  
> On October 27, 2008 - 6:41 PM PDT Catullus wrote:
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> this show is really bad... acting, script, story all BAD.
> ---------------------------------


Yea I tried to watch it the other night. It was SO bad I couldn't stop, so I was praying for a bomb to fall on the house and end it for me.

Seriously...and I thought The Tudors was bad...and it really is.
Battie
post #22  on October 27, 2008 - 8:54 PM PDT  
True Blood has actually not met my expectations. I mean, it's HBO. They've made some good shows in the past. And since the books are so good, you'd think they'd be able to make something a bit more decent.

That said, it's still worth watching for the occasional insanely laughable moment. It's too bad about Sookie's character. She was so much LESS ditzy and annoying in the books.


Blood Ties > True Blood
Hex > True Blood
Battie
post #23  on October 28, 2008 - 6:20 AM PDT  
I'll say this...Pam is awesome. I think I'm in love.
hamano
post #24  on October 29, 2008 - 3:02 PM PDT  
> On October 28, 2008 - 6:20 AM PDT Battie wrote:
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> I'll say this...Pam is awesome. I think I'm in love.
> ---------------------------------

Which one is "Pam"?? I finally saw the first episode. It's surprisingly cheesy, unamusing and unimaginative. The protagonist is a human girl who can "hear" the thoughts of the people around her except for the vampire? Incredibly lame considering the protagonist of Stephenie Meyer's Twilight series was a girl who is the only one impervious to the lead vampire dude's ability to read the thoughts of everyone around him.

There IS a kind of nice low-key good/bad vibe to it that reminds me of Paul Bartel's oeuvre (that home movie of sex with a vamp was pure Bartel, wasn't it?). In that spirit I rather enjoyed watching Anna Paquin getting the sh** kicked out of her at the end (what was that thing she did with the chain earlier? did she watch too much ninja scroll as a kid?). I also enjoyed the dialog written for Tara. She's the only character I really like so far...
hamano
post #25  on October 29, 2008 - 3:11 PM PDT  
Ah, Pam, "One of the girls who danced at the Blue Iguana" Pam... Her boobies are kinda fake looking, but I guess that fits in with the show's cheese factor....
doozer
post #26  on October 29, 2008 - 3:35 PM PDT  
Oh God Twilight. I recently discovered that book in a box of my boyfriends belongings while he's in Asia. You know how some women freak out when they find your porn? Not me. Porn I don't mind. Bad literature on the other hand...
hamano
post #27  on October 29, 2008 - 3:43 PM PDT  
> On October 29, 2008 - 3:35 PM PDT doozer wrote:
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> Oh God Twilight. I recently discovered that book in a box of my boyfriends belongings while he's in Asia.

Maybe he just planted that in there to shock you! Or maybe it belongs to his little sister!

> Bad literature on the other hand...

I'm betting that the Twilight movie is gonna be as cheesy as True Blood. Not as much swearing or sex though, good, family values cheesy.
doozer
post #28  on October 29, 2008 - 4:05 PM PDT  
> On October 29, 2008 - 3:43 PM PDT hamano wrote:
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> Maybe he just planted that in there to shock you! Or maybe it belongs to his little sister!
>
> > Bad literature on the other hand...
>
> I'm betting that the Twilight movie is gonna be as cheesy as True Blood. Not as much swearing or sex though, good, family values cheesy.
> ---------------------------------


He did try to play it off:

"I'm uh..holding that for a friend"
"LIAR!!"
"I KNOW I'm sorry it's awful but I started reading it and couldn't stop. Do you love me less?"
"Yes!"


If he tries to make me see the movie with him we're going to have some serious issues. At least swearing and sex can be entertaining sometimes.

Geez. I'm going to find a ticket stub for the matinée showing of Twilight in his pocket while doing the laundry one day.
hamano
post #29  on October 29, 2008 - 6:06 PM PDT  
> On October 29, 2008 - 4:05 PM PDT doozer wrote:
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> Geez. I'm going to find a ticket stub for the matinée showing of Twilight in his pocket while doing the laundry one day.

If you ever have a baby daughter together and he wants to name her Renesmee, tell him NO. And make him do his own laundry!
doozer
post #30  on October 29, 2008 - 7:31 PM PDT  
> On October 29, 2008 - 6:06 PM PDT hamano wrote:
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>
> If you ever have a baby daughter together and he wants to name her Renesmee, tell him NO. And make him do his own laundry!
> ---------------------------------

What a terrible name! Laundry is easy for now, he's back and forth between Japan and the Philippines til January. I'll concede to the domestic duty when it's actually a maid in another country doing it. ^_^
hamano
post #31  on October 29, 2008 - 9:00 PM PDT  
Just to be fair, I noticed that True Blood is based on a 2001 novel and Twilight was from 2005, so TB was the first with the idea of a human/vampire couple where one is immune from the mind-reading abilities of the other. Not that either is particularly brilliant or original...
Vanamonde
post #32  on October 29, 2008 - 9:43 PM PDT  
Reading this makes me wanna see John Carpenter's "Vampires" again. Now THERE is a vamp flick you can sink your teeth into! James Woods has never been better - and he has been very, very good. I wonder that he is up to?
doozer
post #33  on October 29, 2008 - 9:57 PM PDT  
> On October 29, 2008 - 9:43 PM PDT Vanamonde wrote:
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> Reading this makes me wanna see John Carpenter's "Vampires" again. Now THERE is a vamp flick you can sink your teeth into! James Woods has never been better - and he has been very, very good. I wonder that he is up to?
> ---------------------------------



He's done some voice work - Surfs Up last year, and he's been in the Kingdom Hearts games, and GTA San Andreas. That's all I know off the top of my head. Oh, he was in a terrible movie called Pretty Persuasion a couple years ago.
Battie
post #34  on October 29, 2008 - 11:00 PM PDT  
Eh, you guys have no idea what women read, do you?

Human/vamp (or human/non-human, for that matter) relationships have been popular since probably late 90's, maybe early 2000's. Check out what's on the NY Bestseller list:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/02/books/bestseller/besthardfiction.html - #11, #23

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/02/books/bestseller/bestpapertradefiction.html?_r=1&oref=slogin - #14, #31

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/02/books/bestseller/bestpapermassfiction.html - #2, #4, #9, #13, #15, #16, #20-#22, #24.

Admittedly, Charlaine Harris represents much of those (thanks to True Blood), but I've seen Christine Feehan, Angela Knight, MaryJanice Davidson, Sherrilyn Kenyon, and so on represented. I'm pretty certain SK has hit #1 repeatedly. Probably CF, too.

And if you didn't know, last year's Blood Ties was based on a series of books, as well.


Ellora's Cave, arguably the first truly successful ebook publisher (as well as erotic romance publisher - and probably also the publisher who has shaped the romance genre more in the past two years than any other), has even gone so far as to create a "line" of books dealing with the "paranormal" subgenre. It's just marketing - slap the label 'Twilight' on there, and you got a seller.

And no, I actually don't read romance. Anymore. :) Well, I do read cross-genre stuff. Like J.D. Warren's Bedlam, Bath & Beyond. I just came off of Boomsday by Christopher Buckley, am reading Nights of Sin by Matthew Cook. Think the last few books I've read were Charlaine Harris (prepping for True Blood), newest Cast book by Michelle Sagara, Dark Space by Marianne de Pierres, some book called Personal Demons (which was amusing but had just a tad too much romance in it, imo). I've basically gravitated away from romance..and the older I get, the less I want to read it. But that doesn't mean I wasn't a big enough fan years ago that I don't recognize names. And that Amazon doesn't keep recommending me romance. >:|
doozer
post #35  on October 30, 2008 - 12:11 AM PDT  
Hey I'm a woman.

I've just never heard of any of that :-/

The closest thing I ever read that was romance was the Outlander series (Diana Gabaldon). But I only picked that up because I like reading about time travel and medical history. I also like thoroughly researched historical accounts of either of the Jacobite rebellions.

Other than that, between graphic novels, it's mostly just Neil Gaiman, Charles Bukowski, and some Satre, Nietzsche, and Wittgenstein collecting dust on the shelf. None of them are very romantic ;_;
Battie
post #36  on October 30, 2008 - 12:18 AM PDT  
> On October 30, 2008 - 12:11 AM PDT doozer wrote:
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> Hey I'm a woman.
>
> I've just never heard of any of that :-/
>
> The closest thing I ever read that was romance was the Outlander series (Diana Gabaldon). But I only picked that up because I like reading about time travel and medical history. I also like thoroughly researched historical accounts of either of the Jacobite rebellions.
>
> Other than that, between graphic novels, it's mostly just Neil Gaiman, Charles Bukowski, and some Satre, Nietzsche, and Wittgenstein collecting dust on the shelf. None of them are very romantic ;_;
> ---------------------------------

Lmao. Walk into any Wal-Greens or Wal-Mart book aisle...and you'll see at least one of those authors at any given time (also speaking of the Bestsellers).

Outlander series is excellent (this is post- and ex-romance lover talking). If you enjoyed them, you might like Sara Donati's series that started with Into the Wilderness. It's a bit of a rip off of Last of the Mohican's, but good. Still waiting for the BBC to make Outlander into a movie or SOMETHING. Think they optioned it at one point.. D:


Anyway, back to True Blood. Honestly, I agree about the cheese, but the books weren't like that. Less simpering, less cheese, less ditziness, less sex. Well, up until recently. :P They're starting to read more like LKH books without the fabulousy indestructable heroines and on-going orgies. In other words, mysteries, political intrigue, background stories... Still like LKH more though. <_< Except for the Anita books, which have become so bad, I'm really hoping Anita gets killed in the next one.

...new Merry book comes out on the 4th. :D
doozer
post #37  on October 30, 2008 - 12:59 AM PDT  
> On October 30, 2008 - 12:18 AM PDT Battie wrote:
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>
> Anyway, back to True Blood. Honestly, I agree about the cheese, but the books weren't like that. Less simpering, less cheese, less ditziness, less sex. Well, up until recently. :P They're starting to read more like LKH books without the fabulousy indestructable heroines and on-going orgies. In other words, mysteries, political intrigue, background stories... Still like LKH more though. <_< Except for the Anita books, which have become so bad, I'm really hoping Anita gets killed in the next one.
>
> ...new Merry book comes out on the 4th. :D
> ---------------------------------

I've read some Anita books but never the Merry Gentry ones - simply because I grew up and am very close to the person IRL that Merry Gentry was named for and I wouldn't be able to read anything like the sex Anita has without be thoroughly disturbed while thinking about the IRL Meredith.

I've only read some of the Anita books mid series, nothing after Cerulean Sins, and even then I saw it deteriorating into one page plot four pages sex one page plot two pages sex one page plot three pages sex etc.

I admit I always just assumed True Blood would be like an LKH vampire hunter book.
hamano
post #38  on October 30, 2008 - 4:57 AM PDT  
I just read a lot of Young Adult and children's literature because I like to see what my kids are into.... The Twilight books are VERY popular there, and they've spawned a million teen vampire romances. The idea of a man in his 20's or 30's who DOESN'T have a tween/teen daughter or niece reading the Twilight series is a little bit creepy and disturbing, though. Thank goodness my daughter prefers Terry Pratchett... But she also likes NARUTO a LOT so I'm a bit worried. I'm reading 20th Century Boys.... it's about guys who are almost exactly my age growing up in an alternate history Japan....

Getting back to vamps, I remember reading all the Anne Rice books as they came out through high school and college, but I didn't read any more of them after The Mummy because they got so dumb. The Wolfguy books by Kazamasa Hirai were a lot more pulpy but a lot more fun!
doozer
post #39  on October 30, 2008 - 12:49 PM PDT  
> On October 30, 2008 - 4:57 AM PDT hamano wrote:
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>
> Getting back to vamps, I remember reading all the Anne Rice books as they came out through high school and college, but I didn't read any more of them after The Mummy because they got so dumb. The Wolfguy books by Kazamasa Hirai were a lot more pulpy but a lot more fun!
> ---------------------------------

I remember everybody reading Anne Rice when I was in high school, but I've never even flipped through an Anne Rice book.

I wonder if I subconsciously avoid things vampire-y and romance-y for some reason.
hamano
post #40  on October 30, 2008 - 1:44 PM PDT  
> On October 30, 2008 - 12:49 PM PDT doozer wrote:
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> I remember everybody reading Anne Rice when I was in high school, but I've never even flipped through an Anne Rice book. I wonder if I subconsciously avoid things vampire-y and romance-y for some reason.

Were you in high school AFTER the Interview with A Vampire film came out? Maybe you just avoid things that have a connection to Tom Cruise. Actually Lestat was one of his better acted roles.... I saw War of the Worlds the other day and Cruise was AWFUL, as usual. Why some critics thought that film was a "near masterpiece" I'll never understand. Dakota Fanning was pretty good in the first 20 minutes, but then she just devolved into the standard wide-eyed, dirty-faced, thin-lipped, shrieking, near-catatonic Spielberg kid. I HATE those Spielberg kids... She was still better than Cruise....
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