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| Lost - Season 5 |
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Topic by: Cinenaut
Posted: January 8, 2009 - 9:43 PM PST
Last Reply: October 3, 2009 - 10:16 PM PDT
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topic: Lost - Season 5 |
underdog
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post #61
on May 14, 2009 - 10:48 AM PDT
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Okay, Season Finale, everyone! Thoughts?
I was a bit disappointed with it for awhile, but the last 30 minutes or so pretty much kicked ass in all the right ways.
Jacob becomes extremely interesting -- is he a devil character, or is the other guy he was seen with on the beach at the beginning a devil and Jacob is an angel? I mean, they're definitely getting into something bigger, whether theological or not it seems to be going that way...
Not sure we needed ALL the Jacob flashbacks though. Seemed kind of pointless after awhile. Interestingly, Jacob's appearance with Hurley was more recent, while he was off the island, while the other ones they showed, was Jacob with characters a longer time before.
And Juliette kills herself at the end to set off the bomb -- yet who knows, maybe she'll be back. |
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underdog
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post #62
on May 14, 2009 - 10:49 AM PDT
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Also, it seems like they need more motivation for blowing up the island than that Jack wants a do-over with Kate. Um... so everyone else needs to die?
Still, can't wait for the final season! |
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weezy
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post #63
on May 14, 2009 - 11:35 AM PDT
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> Not sure we needed ALL the Jacob flashbacks though. Seemed kind of pointless after awhile. Interestingly, Jacob's appearance with Hurley was more recent, while he was off the island, while the other ones they showed, was Jacob with characters a longer time before.
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The scene where Jacob gives Jack a candy bar after surgery was eye roll inducing. I agree - too many Jacob flashbacks. All the dialog in the scenes with him were super heavy with the religious undertones. But I guess this was expected, what with the whole John coming back from the dead thing.
I did enjoy the what's-in-the-box reveal at the end, much more than I enjoyed the rest of the episode. I shake my fist at you, Lost, for infuriating me with so many questions and NO answers! |
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troublemaker
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post #64
on May 15, 2009 - 12:54 PM PDT
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It was interesting how heavily they went into a mythological sort of direction in the finale. I think it works with the overall themes of the show: the constant clashing of philosophies/ideologies-- free will vs. destiny, religion vs. science, etc...
While they didn't paint it out for you, it seems fairly safe to say the man in black at the beginning has something to do with the smoke monster. And that he has the means to look like, and retain the memories of anyone who is dead on the island.
Personally, I'm bummed that Locke is officially dead, though knowing the writers, I doubt that'll keep him from making appearances in the final season. |
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Cinenaut
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post #65
on May 15, 2009 - 3:35 PM PDT
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| I really enjoyed the season 5 finale. I do agree that the Jacob flashbacks got a little too predictable and tidy, but there were three or four moments in the two hours that I found pretty jaw-dropping. It makes me want to go back and re-watch the season to see what Locke is up to. For example, when not-Locke tells Richard to pull the bullet out of past-Locke's leg and to tell him that Locke will have to die... that scene has a whole new spin. |
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troublemaker
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post #66
on May 19, 2009 - 9:30 PM PDT
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> On May 15, 2009 - 3:35 PM PDT Cinenaut wrote:
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> I really enjoyed the season 5 finale. I do agree that the Jacob flashbacks got a little too predictable and tidy, but there were three or four moments in the two hours that I found pretty jaw-dropping. It makes me want to go back and re-watch the season to see what Locke is up to. For example, when not-Locke tells Richard to pull the bullet out of past-Locke's leg and to tell him that Locke will have to die... that scene has a whole new spin.
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Absolutely, the new spin really makes you reconsider a number of moments in this past season. I mean it seems to flirt with the idea that everything that's happened has occurred by the manipulations of two "gods" with divergent philosophies on humans. I find it fun, but can understand if people find it aggravating how the writers keep dipping their fingers into new areas. We've been stuck in sci-fi time-travel-land for all this time and now we're going into something in the realm of classical mythology type tale. |
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Cinenaut
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post #67
on May 21, 2009 - 2:00 PM PDT
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Yeah, I hope it doesn't turn into Clash of the Titans. Ha! Of course, it could still all have a science fiction basis, or as Arthur C. Clarke once wrote: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." But who knows what Carlton Cuse and Damon Lindelof have cooked up. I just don't think it would be very satisfying if it all turned out to be a puppet show of the gods.
> On May 19, 2009 - 9:30 PM PDT troublemaker wrote:
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> Absolutely, the new spin really makes you reconsider a number of moments in this past season. I mean it seems to flirt with the idea that everything that's happened has occurred by the manipulations of two "gods" with divergent philosophies on humans. I find it fun, but can understand if people find it aggravating how the writers keep dipping their fingers into new areas. We've been stuck in sci-fi time-travel-land for all this time and now we're going into something in the realm of classical mythology type tale.
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Vanamonde
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post #68
on May 23, 2009 - 3:24 PM PDT
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> On February 13, 2009 - 3:13 PM PST underdog wrote:
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> So is the smoke monster clearly established as controlled/created by the Dharma Project as a sort of watchdog? Or was there another explanation yet?
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...I don't know but that part where Locke is beating the holy George Bush out of Ben and screaming, "WHAT IS THAT SMOKE MONSTER!!!!!" is the best scene all of the Lostiverse.
But you know, I really HATE Lost. And I see Lost. I just HAVE too. It is soooo abusive. I cannot wait until there is an ep that actually answers more questions then it raises.
But the actors, the characters are sooooo compelling. I love them all, except Ben and Charles and Jacob, who I love to hate.
Personally, I believe the smoke monster is some sort of wormhole, quantum black hole based machine installed by the aliens who are manipulating everything. I think they are power star child vandeal, aka, the old Star Trek ep "The Squire of Gothos" with galactic infant Trelane (probably a baby Q).
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Vanamonde
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post #69
on May 23, 2009 - 3:31 PM PDT
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> On May 14, 2009 - 10:48 AM PDT underdog wrote:
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> And Juliette kills herself at the end to set off the bomb -- yet who knows, maybe she'll be back.
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Dude, it may be "just a plutonium trigger" but it is probably still one big boom. That is way there are no nuclear hand grenades. Then add the power of that mysterious energy pocket and the total damn island is probably radioactive dust.
Of worst, Locke, has proven that death is not that the big bad permanent thing we all know it to be. But Juliette knew she was dead meat when she decided to leave the sub.
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Vanamonde
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post #70
on May 23, 2009 - 3:35 PM PDT
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| Anyone read "Everything That Rises Must Converge" by Flannery O'Connor? |
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Cinenaut
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post #71
on May 25, 2009 - 12:32 PM PDT
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Yes, a looong time ago. It's wonderful Southern Gothic. I should read it again.
Speaking of Flannery O'Connor, John Huston's adaptation of Wise Blood just came out on DVD. Maybe Brad Dourif's greatest crazy performance?
> On May 23, 2009 - 3:35 PM PDT Vanamonde wrote:
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> Anyone read "Everything That Rises Must Converge" by Flannery O'Connor?
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Battie
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post #72
on October 2, 2009 - 2:07 PM PDT
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| Okay..now that Lost is over...it is over, right?...can someone give me a summary of exactly wtf happened? Get all the big plot points in! |
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Battie
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post #73
on October 2, 2009 - 2:07 PM PDT
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| I forgot to mention, I think I've seen less than one season. And it was season..2? |
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Cinenaut
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post #74
on October 3, 2009 - 10:16 PM PDT
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Season 5 is over, and there's one more season to go.
Season 5 ended with the idea that the island is in a sort of time bubble and detonating a nuclear device would reset everything so that they would never have crashed on the island in the first place. There was a delightful cliffhanger that included Juliette hammering on an atomic bomb with a rock in order to detonate it.
It's okay for them to play with the idea of what would have happened if the plane never crashed, but hopefully that's not the way the show will end.
> On October 2, 2009 - 2:07 PM PDT Battie wrote:
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> Okay..now that Lost is over...it is over, right?...can someone give me a summary of exactly wtf happened? Get all the big plot points in!
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