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GCMUG (GreenCine Mac Users' Group)
Topic by: hamano
Posted: November 22, 2003 - 12:43 AM PST
Last Reply: February 6, 2007 - 5:12 PM PST

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author topic: GCMUG (GreenCine Mac Users' Group)
dh22
post #61  on July 1, 2004 - 8:07 AM PDT  
Yeah, I meant MS media player. It's not a streaming problem, cause these aren't streaming files. It seems to mostly be a decoder problem. I'll try MPlayer, maybe that'll fix everything.
hamano
post #62  on July 1, 2004 - 8:15 AM PDT  
I meant the data stream from your hard disk through your CPU/video processor. I think you'll be happy with MPlayer. It's like a swiss army knife, and also fast forwards and back very nicely with the arrow <-- --> keys.

Get it here.
hamano
post #63  on July 1, 2004 - 8:20 AM PDT  
Download this file, MPlayer OS X 2 beta v. 7
dh22
post #64  on July 4, 2004 - 7:15 PM PDT  
I tried the MPlayer. It worked with everything tried so far. Thanks for the tip, hamano.
hamano
post #65  on February 2, 2005 - 11:17 PM PST  
HA HA HA HA HA!
PGalloway1
post #66  on May 25, 2005 - 6:05 PM PDT  
> On November 22, 2003 - 12:48 AM PST hamano wrote:
> I've been using BitTorrent to download fansubs.

A "bit" of depressing news for BitTorrent users:


hamano
post #67  on May 26, 2005 - 9:34 AM PDT  
Elite probably tried to organize itself too much, with membership registration and all that... That's a sure way to make yourself a big fat target. I was using a place called tvtorrents that got shut down, too, and was soliciting former users with donations to use in a "pending settlement"

So, anyone using Tiger yet? I'm wondering if I should upgrade...
underdog
post #68  on May 26, 2005 - 10:19 AM PDT  
> On May 26, 2005 - 9:34 AM PDT hamano wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> So, anyone using Tiger yet? I'm wondering if I should upgrade...
> ---------------------------------


I'm using Tiger, Hamano, and really like it. I've actually used the new version of iChat with the A/V features for a conference call with David Hudson in Berlin and it worked great! There's also this cool new "Dashboard" feature you've probably heard about. Honestly, I don't know how many other things are *that* different, but it definitely runs well and seems cool to me. I'd recommend downloading the patch update to Tiger if you do get it though, there were apparently a few bugs in the initial system.

You could read some of the Mac forums to see what people are saying about it, too.

C
hamano
post #69  on May 26, 2005 - 12:33 PM PDT  
Hmm... I'm definitely gonna upgrade over the summer sometime. I have 3 or 4 macs around the house of various vintages, so I have to get the more expensive "family" license... right now I'm cash poor... *sniff*

Meanwhile, I'm gonna head over to the local Apple Store and try it out. I tried going on Tiger Day but there was a line that snaked through a whole wing of the Mall to get in...
underdog
post #70  on May 26, 2005 - 1:35 PM PDT  
Trying it out first is definitely a good idea (it's free!) and if you're in any way scrapped for cash I don't think it's that important to upgrade yet. Waiting is fine, I'm sure. As long as your family is on an OS X of some sort. (Hard to believe that as of 15 months ago or so I was still using System 9 on my older G4 - now that I have a PBG4 laptop it's like a different world, but since I survived on 9 for awhile, I think Tiger feels like a luxury. )

C
dpowers
post #71  on May 27, 2005 - 7:29 PM PDT  
a plus of tiger for DVD freaks is the new apple player has both image zoom and a pretty nice audio equalizer. on the negative side, it (player v.4.6) won't play VIDEO_TS folders off the hard drive anymore, apparently.
dpowers
post #72  on June 12, 2005 - 8:23 PM PDT  
i guess the big news related to macs is that apple is dumping the PPC, after more than 10 years of using it. i just replaced my computer of 5 years with this machine here now so it doesn't really concern me what apple will be making in the next 2 or 3 years.

now, in respect to the new computer, it's been a major pain in my butt in the last month and i want to share my pain.

happy part
in september the household bought a very shiny imac g5 to replace old powermac ("blue and white" g3 with low-speed g4 upgrade card). imac has big screen and hard drive and makes a great media center. it came to us straight from the assembly line near shanghai.

sad part
this machine behaved nicely until it flew to pieces last month. the shop had it for 3 weeks while one part after another didn't fix it.

happy part
the shop decided it was irreparable and replaced it with the newer model with a few bug fixes* incorporated - runs quieter, runs cooler, runs faster. plus it came with tiger installed and some other cool stuff and has a brand new warranty which i hope will not be needed.

tiger part
tiger interface very speedy. whoever told me the DVD player couldn't play VIDEO_TS folders from hard drive didn't know what they were talking about.

serious part
regular backups saved our butts. the hard drive once dead was completely inaccessible.


* bugs fixed from "rev a" to "rev b":
- wifi range greatly improved.
- hard drive is now faster than lowly emac.
- sleep indicator light no longer causing landing accidents at local airport.
- fans much quieter.
- video card now able to keep up with games from 2002.
- "automatic" CPU power setting now able to walk and chew gum at same time.
dpowers
post #73  on June 13, 2005 - 12:02 PM PDT  
the tiger DVD player has a handful of really nifty things.

in the menu bar:

"file > open DVD media..." - the new name for playing from a VIDEO_TS folder
"video > deinterlace" - just what it says and about f'in' time
"controls > timer" - a sleep timer. cmd-T to start it.
"window > video zoom" - fit the image to the screen when full size, isn't
"window > video color" - fix the color bias on those crappy HK video transfers!
"window > audio equalizer" - makes my computer speakers sound good.

dpowers
post #74  on June 14, 2005 - 9:02 AM PDT  
relating to greencine...

video-on-demand
microsoft last updated windows media player 9 for mac in 2003. its playback quality at full screen was-and-so-still-is sad. "at least it runs" sad. meanwhile there still isn't a mac software client to download secured divx files. greencine's own advice is "to wait until DivX finishes their Mac version, or download it on a PC. After installation, DivX files can be played on the Mac via the QuickTime player." attention passengers: we are now leaving the authorized 'on-demand' zone. please have a blank CD available...

browser compatibility
from back when to now the site has been usable, readable, and pretty, no matter what browser i use on what mac. nice job y'all!

general chores
i guess this is another tiger plug. the time it took to load my queue (2000+ titles) used to be nearly 90 seconds with 10.3 (panther). with 10.4: no more than 30 seconds with either safari or firefox... plus i can scroll smoothly through the file. list management's quicker too. (this may be some new hardware acceleration stuff that tiger does so it may not work with older/simpler machines.)

can't think of other platform-specific stuff that happens.
jameswolc23
post #75  on November 27, 2005 - 8:07 PM PST  
> On June 14, 2005 - 9:02 AM PDT dpowers wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> relating to greencine...
>
> video-on-demand
> microsoft last updated windows media player 9 for mac in 2003. its playback quality at full screen was-and-so-still-is sad. "at least it runs" sad. meanwhile there still isn't a mac software client to download secured divx files. greencine's own advice is "to wait until DivX finishes their Mac version, or download it on a PC. After installation, DivX files can be played on the Mac via the QuickTime player." attention passengers: we are now leaving the authorized 'on-demand' zone. please have a blank CD available...
>

I'm probably treading on hallowed ground but...
has there been any development on v.o.d. for macintosh?

Is anyone making it work?

I suspect I'm in over my head on this one... but any advice or info would be appreciated.

Thanks.
dpowers
post #76  on November 28, 2005 - 2:33 PM PST  
WMP on mac is nowhere. lost in time.

DivX says they're "hard at work" on mac software that can play VoD. on the same page, though, they say the current mac software doesn't work with tiger or QT 7, which are more than 6 mos old in release, because of "several compatibility issues." probably safe to say mac development is not a priority.

both companies are direct competitors to apple for video DRM and distribution. i'm sure all this will blow over quickly once apple accommodates other protection systems at the itunes store, which will happen after hell thaws.
dpowers
post #77  on November 28, 2005 - 2:38 PM PST  
i don't think anyone has tried windows emulation software. that would probably do fine. the streams aren't HD.
artifex
post #78  on November 28, 2005 - 3:50 PM PST  
> On November 28, 2005 - 2:33 PM PST dpowers wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> WMP on mac is nowhere. lost in time.
>
> DivX says they're "hard at work" on mac software that can play VoD. on the same page, though, they say the current mac software doesn't work with tiger or QT 7, which are more than 6 mos old in release, because of "several compatibility issues." probably safe to say mac development is not a priority.
>
> both companies are direct competitors to apple for video DRM and distribution. i'm sure all this will blow over quickly once apple accommodates other protection systems at the itunes store, which will happen after hell thaws.
> ---------------------------------


They may just be waiting for Mactel, so they can hook into the onboard DRM, which may just be TC. So much work, I'd rather just rent the disc. So far there's just been one movie I really wanted to see that's only on VOD here, and it's a short, so too bad :) I'm not loading a bunch of stuff on my XP file server, and then pay money, just for one little short.
dpowers
post #79  on November 29, 2005 - 9:18 AM PST  
yeah the rumor was that switching to intel (as i may have said before?) was about getting hardware DRM so as to better sweet talk the talking pictures property holders - this fits pretty well with the timing of putting video on the 'pod. it may mean also that vide'pods will get "trusted" chips also, for that extra blanket on a cold cash night.

in the mean time the VoD channel is pretty weird. tivo just added portability converters to their software but it's really porn and piracy that will demonstrate the future of digital distribution i think.
artifex
post #80  on November 29, 2005 - 1:15 PM PST  
> On November 29, 2005 - 9:18 AM PST dpowers wrote:
> in the mean time the VoD channel is pretty weird. tivo just added portability converters to their software but it's really porn and piracy that will demonstrate the future of digital distribution i think.

Tivo watermarks those converted files, too. Yet another reason to love my ReplayTV... I can copy show mpgs right off it and do what I want with them, under fair use rules, of course. Oh, and if I have a bad signal from my tv station, I can ask someone else on the other side of the country to send the show from their unit to mine.
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