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topic: Stanley Kubrick - overrated? |
Eoliano
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post #121
on October 13, 2004 - 4:29 PM PDT
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> > Now, now, let's be nice and not forget O Lucky Man...
> oh, let's.
I have, actually, all that I can recall is one fleeting visual snippet... something about a pig's head...
> > Mark Hamill's best performance was in The Big Red One (yeah, he was really in a Sam Fuller film)
> ah yeah... i forgot he was in that. a nice job.
Nice Job? His performance or that he was fortunate enough to be cast in a Fuller film?
> > and Carrie Fisher's best performance was in Postcards from the Edge. ; ^ )
> yeah she did just the most incredible imitation of meryl streep!
Which is what makes it all the more praiseworthy. |
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hamano
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post #122
on October 13, 2004 - 4:30 PM PDT
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| I kinda think of Paul Schrader as Kubrick Lite... Do you think Schrader is pretty insignificant in comparison? |
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hamano
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post #123
on October 13, 2004 - 4:36 PM PDT
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> mcdowell: a slut. definitely a slut. earliest work established his availability and his screen authority. everything in the rest of his career seems like some combination of if... and clockwork orange.
I liked Time After Time and Cat People. He was a charming sort of nerd before nerds became fashionable in the former, and he did a good Eric Roberts Creepy in the latter.
> Carrie Fisher's best performance was in Postcards from the Edge. ; ^ )
I liked her best in Shampoo. Lorna... that's a good name. |
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Eoliano
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post #124
on October 13, 2004 - 4:55 PM PDT
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> I kinda think of Paul Schrader as Kubrick Lite...
Kubrick Lights! The Thinking Man's Cigarette!
> Do you think Schrader is pretty insignificant in comparison?
Yes. More like Bresson Lite with a Calvanist twist... |
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Eoliano
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post #125
on October 13, 2004 - 5:04 PM PDT
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> I liked her best in Shampoo. Lorna... that's a good name.
Oh yeah! Lorna Carry On Fisher! I loved that film when it came out and recently dropped it in my queue along with two other Hal Ashby films. |
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dpowers
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post #126
on October 13, 2004 - 5:19 PM PDT
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> > > Mark Hamill's best performance was in The Big Red One
> > a nice job.
> His performance or that he was fortunate enough to be cast in a Fuller film?
heh, fuller probably saw him in the other movies and thought, "a fresh face, an action-hero mindset, he's perfect..." i wonder how that movie was cast.
no really i thought everybody in that movie was great. i think the fixed up version ran in town over the summer, while i was travelling, i wished i could've taken some people to see it. it's characteristically frank and uncharacteristically location-driven.
it's funny though to think of fuller's war movies in relation to kubrick's. kubrick always talking about something else, possibly, and fuller always yelling at you to keep up with the story. let's go, let's go, let's go! the theater won't be here forever! fuller the hardass. kubrick the spider. |
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Eoliano
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post #127
on October 13, 2004 - 6:54 PM PDT
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> heh, fuller probably saw him in the other movies and thought, "a fresh face, an action-hero mindset, he's perfect..." i wonder how that movie was cast.
According to Fuller's book, the casting responsibilities were spread between himself, his wife Crista, Gene Corman (Roger's brother), and I suppose, a casting agency. Corman, who was one of the producers, originally suggested Steve McQueen for the role of the Sarge, but Fuller couldn't imagine anyone else except Lee Marvin in the role. It was his wife's idea to cast Hamill, primarily because of his youth appeal after the big success of that Lucas film he was in, and because Lucas urged him to take the part. No attribution is given in the book as to who cast Robert Carradine to play Zab, Fuller's dog-faced alter ego. At one point, Martin Scorsese was considered for the role of the dago GI. |
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Eoliano
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post #128
on October 13, 2004 - 8:15 PM PDT
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| Fyi, dp, The Big Red One will be playing at The Castro, December 10-15. |
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dpowers
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post #129
on October 13, 2004 - 8:42 PM PDT
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hoo! that's good news! i must have missed something else this summer. probably il gattopardo. yeah i think that's what it was. i should have a castro calendar around here somewhere. of all things i do on the web, movie theater schedules remain easier to read as wall posters.
okay i think i'm done talking about this... i don't see 5 movies a year and i don't try to pick one movie over another. i don't think any kubrick movies were in my top list i made for greencine - my point is, i'm not sitting around using kubrick to prove that i know movies or using kubrick movies as a measuring stick - kubrick's films have all moved me, provoked me, dragged me into a higher literary space than i usually like exploring, and i usually feel as though i haven't finished watching the movie when it's over. that to me is the best indicator that both the writers and the director had it going on. |
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hamano
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post #130
on October 13, 2004 - 9:10 PM PDT
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> On October 13, 2004 - 8:42 PM PDT dpowers wrote:
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> okay i think i'm done talking about this...
Until you figure out Eyes Wide Shut, anyway.... |
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Eoliano
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post #131
on October 13, 2004 - 9:19 PM PDT
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> > okay i think i'm done talking about this...
> Until you figure out Eyes Wide Shut...
Eyes Wide Shut
Eyes Wide Shut
Eyes Wide Shut
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dpowers
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post #132
on October 13, 2004 - 10:35 PM PDT
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| suddenly i'm feeling very sleeeeeeepy |
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Eoliano
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post #133
on October 14, 2004 - 2:13 PM PDT
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> suddenly i'm feeling very sleeeeeeepy
Just remember... no dream is entirely a dream... |
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