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topic: omg sarah palin lol |
Catullus
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post #1
on October 2, 2008 - 6:55 PM PDT
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so im watching the debate and she is ranting and raving on the fact that Obama would be willing to have discussions with leaders of countries such as Iran and N Korea, Cuba etc.
She starts going on a tangent about how that would be dangerous (to have talks lol) and how those countries hate us and hate our freedoms and she starts listing off freedoms... and she EFFING HAD THE GALL TO SAY WOMENS RIGHTS...
I wanted to slap her through the tv at that point... how can she even mention womens rights with a straight face.
Is it wrong to hope she gets run over by a bus? |
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doozer
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post #2
on October 2, 2008 - 7:52 PM PDT
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| If she didn't say that, she'd lose the chic vote. |
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KKelleman
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post #3
on October 2, 2008 - 8:31 PM PDT
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Yeah,She is a joke. Hell,at least I got to see a lot of Keith Olbermann,In fact he is live now. =] |
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Battie
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post #4
on October 2, 2008 - 9:44 PM PDT
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I was at work, so I recorded it. But technically, if you're doing to be an ass about it, women's rights doesn't necessarily mean reproductive rights.
Though, personally, I find them to be one and the same. I wish Dems would stand up for themselves on the issue. By the CDC's count, there's 850,000 abortions or thereabouts per year. There are around two million families waiting to adopt infants. So, if we got rid of abortion...in 3-5 years, we'd start seeing babies in orphanages. Almost half of the abortions are from African-American women (and how many Southern, Christian families want a black baby, really? Hmph!).
Basically, the idea that adoption will somehow solve the issue of abortion is naive and the right should've been called out on it. They also should be called out on the fact that there are a LOT of kids in foster care, waiting for adoptive parents, right now.
I'm not 100% pro-choice. I don't like abortion. But I like the alternative even less. I'd prefer that the government and other organizations do a lot more simply to make sure if never gets to the point that abortion is needed. Doing away with abstinence-only education would be a good idea. And let's stop telling teenagers that sex is bad, sex is a sin, etc. Not all of them are smart of enough to figure out, on their own, that a lot of that is exaggerated. |
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Battie
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post #5
on October 2, 2008 - 9:44 PM PDT
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| So, did Joe make Palin look the fool? |
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kaream
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post #6
on October 2, 2008 - 10:03 PM PDT
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> On October 2, 2008 - 9:44 PM PDT Battie wrote: > --------------------------------- > So, did Joe make Palin look the fool? > ---------------------------------
No, she did surprisingly well.
But what was that thing in her ear? Is she hard of hearing? Or was she being prompted throughout the debate? |
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DLeonard
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post #7
on October 2, 2008 - 10:06 PM PDT
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Really the person who is best at making Palin look the fool is Palin herself. But for the majority of the debate she held her own. And of course most supporters will claim that as victory; "see she's not a backwoods moron". Some victory.
No, Palin seems to have a grasp of some very fundamental aspect of politics. You can make any asinine comment you want devoid of any facts, just make sure you spout the buzzwords. I think she called McCain and herself "mavericks" about 20 times.
Thankfully, Biden is no Lieberman or Edwards and he spoke with intelligence and emotion. Palin just reminded me of the kidnapped wife in "Fargo". |
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doozer
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post #8
on October 2, 2008 - 10:59 PM PDT
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> On October 2, 2008 - 9:44 PM PDT Battie wrote: > --------------------------------- > I was at work, so I recorded it. But technically, if you're doing to be an ass about it, women's rights doesn't necessarily mean reproductive rights. > > ---------------------------------
Ass or no, I think womens rights is intrinsically asinine, especially coming out of her mouth. You can't fight for equality then ask to be treated special because of your gender. Especially if you're on the road to becoming the first female president (and I mean in case McCain wins and kicks, she's up). Women's rights is an oxymoron. We have the right to be treated just like anybody else, and that's it. Not because we're women, but because we're human. |
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underdog
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post #9
on October 2, 2008 - 11:43 PM PDT
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Lots of interesting post-debate commentary from various pundits and wrap-ups of commentary from elsewhere all in one handy section at Huffington Post. There are also a few select video clips there if you missed the debate, though I'm sure the whole thing in its entirety will be posted online (if it isn't already) as well.
As usual, it depends on who you talk to as far as who did well, or who "won," but with the bar set very low for Palin, I'm not sure what it's saying but she didn't go underneath it. Most of the pundits, both Democratic and GOP that were quoted on cable news and online afterwards seemed to give Biden a victory. If you read most of the Facebook statuses and comments for all the people who I'm connected with on FB, for what it's worth, it wasn't even close. Polls of independents during and after the debate show it not very close either.
But definitely check it out online if you missed it. |
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underdog
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post #10
on October 2, 2008 - 11:44 PM PDT
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> On October 2, 2008 - 10:06 PM PDT DLeonard wrote: > --------------------------------- > > No, Palin seems to have a grasp of some very fundamental aspect of politics. You can make any asinine comment you want devoid of any facts, just make sure you spout the buzzwords. I think she called McCain and herself "mavericks" about 20 times. > You sound too coherent, though, so I'm assuming you didn't play this game during the debate. ;-)
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Catullus
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post #11
on October 3, 2008 - 12:01 AM PDT
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shes a poor mans tina fey.
As far as in concerned biden blew her out of the water. Im biased but then in the long run republicans are either republican because they are very rich or very stupid. So it probably didn't change anything. |
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Catullus
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post #12
on October 3, 2008 - 12:13 AM PDT
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also I like how she said "John Mccain knows how to win wars"
i laughed because last I checked vietnam was a big f up and a total loss and he was a FREAKING POW LOL.
Then you look at the Iraq war... it would be hard to pin its utter failure on him but he certainly did not win it either.
Or is there some other war that I forgot about it that Mccain singlehandedly won... LOL |
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doozer
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post #13
on October 3, 2008 - 12:29 AM PDT
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> On October 3, 2008 - 12:13 AM PDT Catullus wrote: > --------------------------------- > > Or is there some other war that I forgot about it that Mccain singlehandedly won... LOL > ---------------------------------
The French and Indian War. He's *that* old. |
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hamano
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post #14
on October 3, 2008 - 5:43 AM PDT
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> On October 3, 2008 - 12:13 AM PDT Catullus wrote: > --------------------------------- > also I like how she said "John Mccain knows how to win wars"
Yeah, I really wanted Biden to go after her on that one remark. When the F did McCain EVER demonstrate that he knew how to win, let alone wage a war? The one war he was in he sat it out, although at least he was in country as opposed to his good buddy Bush, our commander in chief... McCain knows what it feels like to be shot down and be a prisoner, and he's gotten more than enough mileage out of THAT. He shouldn't get credit for other war-related stuff.
Otherwise this debate was pretty boring. Everyone more or less stuck to the talking points we've all heard before and the moderator didn't help... she didn't really ask any pointed, off-beat questions. It was all too civilized and polite. I shoulda taped it to use as a non-chemical sleep-aid.
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Catullus
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post #15
on October 3, 2008 - 9:58 AM PDT
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I wish those damn gets would get off my lawn
also Hamano I think it was a trap question, if he started dissing Mccain he would be called names like unpatriotic, unamerican etc even though they ripped Kerry's War Record which imo was more impressive than Mccain's.
But hey Republicans are the penultimate hypocrites so yea. |
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Catullus
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post #16
on October 3, 2008 - 10:01 AM PDT
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and that is why you dont post right after you wake up in the morning >_<
gets are supposed to be kids in the previous link and dont make fun of me for waking up at almost 10am either >_<
I wish those damn kids would get off my lawn fixed >_< I really was only half way awake O.o |
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doozer
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post #17
on October 3, 2008 - 10:48 AM PDT
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> On October 3, 2008 - 10:01 AM PDT Catullus wrote: > --------------------------------- > and that is why you dont post right after you wake up in the morning >_< > > gets are supposed to be kids in the previous link and dont make fun of me for waking up at almost 10am either >_< > > I wish those damn kids would get off my lawn fixed >_< > I really was only half way awake O.o > ---------------------------------
I don't wake up until ten either.
The weird thing is, I get to work at 8 and handle peoples pensions and retirement funds for that whole two hours I'm still asleep. |
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hamano
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post #18
on October 3, 2008 - 10:56 AM PDT
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| No wonder everyone put their money into sub-prime loans.... you guys were all asleep! This was the Republican plan all along. Put Americans to sleep so they can let their friends run around getting rich. |
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doozer
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post #19
on October 3, 2008 - 2:17 PM PDT
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> On October 3, 2008 - 10:56 AM PDT hamano wrote: > --------------------------------- > No wonder everyone put their money into sub-prime loans.... you guys were all asleep! This was the Republican plan all along. Put Americans to sleep so they can let their friends run around getting rich. > ---------------------------------
My plan is a little bit different. I'm going to drink and play a lot of poker this weekend. If I win big, there's my retirement fund! If I lose, well I'll drink more so I'll probably forget how much I put in. |
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Battie
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post #20
on October 3, 2008 - 9:38 PM PDT
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I've watched maybe 40 minutes of it so far...I had to stop because I was getting irritated. They did, by and large, stick to talking points, but at least Biden was attempting to debate her. Palin, on the other hand, absolutely stuck to talking points. She couldn't even respond when the moderator asked her if she wanted to rebuff something about McCain. Her response was something like...I may not stay on the topic the moderator and Mr. Biden want me to...yada, yada, I'm an independent maverick...yada yada, I have a vagina!
Ahem. |
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